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Psychic Sally morgan caught cheating?

Foolmewunz said:
Just a thought, but.... These folks are not necessarily morons. (They're blood-sucking miscreants, scam artists and toad licking alley dogs, but not necessarily morons.)

They're at least media and web savvy. The thought that someone hasn't picked up on this thread and others is fairly remote. Ergo, she won't be transmitting at her next Dublin show, IMHO. She'll devise other "hot" methodology.
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The problem with that thought is that she will not know when she is being recorded. It may not be the next show. It could be any show, in any town. She has one most days. Either she never uses the earpiece again or risks getting caught. If the former then she needs a new act, which probably will mean a decrease in the quality of the show.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Just a thought, but.... These folks are not necessarily morons. (They're blood-sucking miscreants, scam artists and toad licking alley dogs, but not necessarily morons.)

They're at least media and web savvy. The thought that someone hasn't picked up on this thread and others is fairly remote. Ergo, she won't be transmitting at her next Dublin show, IMHO. She'll devise other "hot" methodology.
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I have some cool gear. Fairy sensitive, probably wouldn't even need to buy a ticket.

I am almost tempted to go and "sniff" about.
 
rjh01 said:
The problem with that thought is that she will not know when she is being recorded. It may not be the next show. It could be any show, in any town. She has one most days. Either she never uses the earpiece again or risks getting caught. If the former then she needs a new act, which probably will mean a decrease in the quality of the show.
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Either that, or she could just ditch the wireless step-up, and go with a wired link. Then make some pitiful excuse about the wireless breaking up to explain the switch.
 
snuffkin said:
Just seen this on youtube. lol. sorry, forgot to paste the link in.

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Wow. Morgan claims the ear piece is just in to hold her mic in place. But here we quite easily see that she has a mic on the right side and a separate ear piece on the left. And the left ear piece does not hold the mic in place because you can see her take both out separately.
 
ttguy said:
Wow. Morgan claims the ear piece is just in to hold her mic in place. But here we quite easily see that she has a mic on the right side and a separate ear piece on the left. And the left ear piece does not hold the mic in place because you can see her take both out separately.
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And so yet again we find out that it's a load.

You won't convince the gullible.
 
Richard Wiseman (on SGU24) has suggested that we should consider whether the quality of Morgan's show is actually indicative of hot reading at all. I thought it was interesting that the caller to the radio program that started all this stated that no-one actually responded to the lines that were allegedly fed to Morgan. So maybe she is just doing cold reading.

Thoughts ?

sgu24index wikidot com/part-4
 
ttguy said:
Richard Wiseman (on SGU24) has suggested that we should consider whether the quality of Morgan's show is actually indicative of hot reading at all. I thought it was interesting that the caller to the radio program that started all this stated that no-one actually responded to the lines that were allegedly fed to Morgan. So maybe she is just doing cold reading.

Thoughts ?

sgu24index wikidot com/part-4
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The link is http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-4. Am listening to it now.

Edit. Some interesting thoughts by Richard Wiseman in the link.
 
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zenbuffy said:
Thanks for that. I have some theatre friends myself, but mostly in lighting, so the sound expertise is helpful :) Managed to find a combo scanner/recorder that I may pick up, to save the hassle of bringing an extra device just to record. I've been to the GCT before, and I know that it kills a lot of mobile phone signals (probably due to thick walls). I couldn't get a signal on my phone the whole time I was in the theatre (very annoying).

On that note, does anyone know what the legalities are of bringing such a device to the theatre?
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Cheers. I asked Mr Nay, and he says shows usually have signs up saying "no cameras or video cameras". They never say anything about sound recording, let alone scanning.
 
I wonder if Sally is still using the "love cards" ruse?


I try and be as open-minded as possible about the paranormal and psychic world, so I went with my wife and 25 year old daughter to see the famous Sally Morgan roadshow.

The audience was packed with almost 1000 people, which would have raked in at least £10,000 for our Sal. Not bad for a couple of hours work. As we were queueing to go in, Sally's minions were encouraging people to complete so called 'love cards' where you gave details of yourself, the loved one you had lost, and a message for them. These were then placed in a large fish bowl on the stage that Sally occasionally dipped into.

The pre-interval session was the usual inconclusive mix were some 'messages from beyond' seemed quite plausible but others seemed way off the mark. But what happened after the interval convinced me that the whole think is a load of hocum, and dangerous hocum at that!

During the interval my daughter,Vicky, who'd lost her mother to cancer at the age of just six, filled in a card. This card would have been picked up by one of Sally's cronies who would have, no doubt, passed the message on to Sally before she went back on stage. Well… what do you know, the first message coming through was from Sue, my deceased wife appearing very distressed as she was missing her little girl so terribly. Vicky was very upset and was asked to stand up, tears running down her face, while the big screen camera zoomed in on her. What then followed was a series of pap messages that would have applied to any young girl who'd lost her mother: 'your mum misses brushing your hair, your mum hopes you are looking after her rings.' But no message for me, her husband of 20 years, or our son who was devoted to his mother. In fact there was nothing that wasn't either on the card that Vicky had filled in, or glib statements.

Of course the audience was taken in by the whole thing because they were unaware of the card Vicky had completed. I found the whole experience quite degrading and a very crass exploitation of vulnerable peoples’ emotions. If the dead can contact the living then it’s certainly not through people like Sally Morgan.

http://www.ukskeptics.com/forum/showthread.php/847-Sally-Morgan-Star-Psychic./page15
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That post dates from 2009.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I wonder if Sally is still using the "love cards" ruse?
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If that's the case, shouldn't be too difficult in getting a few sceptics to fill them out. The main problem then is being picked. I suppose you'd have also to be careful in not providing information that would stand out from the crowd too much and might be a red flag to the minions.
 
commandlinegamer said:
If that's the case, shouldn't be too difficult in getting a few sceptics to fill them out. The main problem then is being picked. I suppose you'd have also to be careful in not providing information that would stand out from the crowd too much and might be a red flag to the minions.
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I'd love to provide the details of a fairly obscure fictional character.
 
rjh01 said:
The link is http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-4. Am listening to it now.

Edit. Some interesting thoughts by Richard Wiseman in the link.
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His section from 47 mins is really worth listening to.

There is also an absolutely appalling yet perversely funny account of a really bad "hot" reading. I won't spoil it for you but try to check it out. Beyond parody.

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The claim of the two permanent theatre crew were the ones who were overheard talking is, to my mind, a lot bogus.
How many people does she employ in these -events- and where are they stationed during the performance?
Oh and how about some-one using the jamming cellphone technology outside the building..
You wouldn't even need to go in
 
The Grand Canal Theatre, Dublin confirmed in a reply to someone on their fb page that SM used her own sound crew. I also think the two lighting guys are bogus. They have not come forward to be formally interviewed. And Sally's statement still does not explain why they were saying exactly what she was saying before she said it!

Also, this from both of SM's fb pages this morning:
Hayley Appleby
Although we have tried to be fair and balanced, Sally's management have taken the decision to block and remove offensive and slanderous posts. This page is for the use of Sally's fans and we have been receiving numerous complaints from them commenting on the nature of posts left by some and we do not want to cause them or Sally any further distress. X SMHQ

She has time to update her fb and Twitter with this, and other trivial things, but in the past month she has not taken the time to answer the questions put to her by fans about the earpiece.

Also her son in law Daren Wiltshire, commented on her fb page yesterday and started slagging off her fans saying they where all on benefits and she was paying to keep them! Then he threatened that they lawyers would be recording the IP addresses of anyone slandering her!?
He's is also 'on the payroll' as he is her paid driver.
 
Comments from Daren Wiltshire (SM's Son-in-law and 'tour manager') this morning, on her Fans of Sally Morgan Star Psychic facebook page:

Daren Wiltshear: "What, she can only do one test? are you for real?? Please tell me your not that stupid??
She did a controlled scientific test with Gary Schwarz in America, and Derren Brown came to Sallys house to film for HIS series. What part of that is hard to understand??"


Daren Wiltshear: "Prove it Spencer, prove she can't do it. You can't and nor could Derren Brown when Sally welcomed him into her home to test her for his tv series. Do you remember seeing it on his show? Oh, no you wouldn't, because he left the house and Sally was then informed that the footage wouldn't be used. Now, surely that was the time for him to prove to the world that she was a fake, why would he not use the footage?? Hmmm"


Daren Wiltshear: "She doesn't need to keep proving herself to cretins like you. She's proved it time and time again. Who are you anyway?"


Daren Wiltshear: "Prove it Spencer, prove she can't do it. You can't and nor could Derren Brown when Sally welcomed him into her home to test her for his tv series. Do you remember seeing it on his show? Oh, no you wouldn't, because he left the house and Sally was then informed that the footage wouldn't be used. Now, surely that was the time for him to prove to the world that she was a fake, why would he not use the footage?? Hmmm"


Daren Wiltshear: "She doesn't need to keep proving herself to cretins like you. She's proved it time and time again. Who are you anyway?"


Daren Wiltshear "Ann Grant, don't worry, it won't be for much longer. All Evidence has been collected.
Keep positive."


(All evidence being collected for Sally's Lawyers!! He's now threatening to sue the former fans who are daring to disbelieve and challenge Sally's 'gift'.)
 
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