Gord_in_Toronto
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Merged Psychic Noreen Renier
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Rincewind
Philosopher
Ah - maybe you're being too quick...
What if Senex has just come out of the shower?
rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
Then just wait a few minutes and he would be wearing clothing. Then that is when the reading took place.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Does an umbrella count as clothing? (for a so called psychic, I mean)
rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
He at least owns clothing, so even if he is nude a prediction of wearing clothing is a hit.
That may be obvious but I am sure something similar has been used.
That may be obvious but I am sure something similar has been used.
Senex
Philosopher
So, this is a few hot young ladies wondering about me coming out of the shower.
It is to be expected I guess.
It is to be expected I guess.
Sherlock
Muse
Noreen Renier 2014 claims
Noreen Renier is well aware as I've mentioned here in previous posts that the two judgments ordered against her (and in my favor) by federal Judge William Anderson will likely prevent lawsuit filings from her going forward. They will be stopped dead in their tracks across any court throughout the United States shortly after ANY filing. Why? Because she has been ruled as not a credible witness by a federal judge who also noted she misled his federal court.
Indeed, Ms. Renier filed multiple legal appeals in two higher courts coupled with over 200 total pages of rambling writings and attachments. Many items directly faulted the judgement of Judge Anderson's rulings. He likely was none to happy with some of the words posted.
But again both of those higher courts again ruled in my favor and kept her 'not credible' judgment in full, and on-going.
That's brought the total to six federal court decisions against her, all rulings in my favor, across five different federal courts from 2006-2012. And Judge William Anderson ruled that I was assigned “protection against further litigation” from Noreen Renier effectively across some 5000+ pages of prior testimonies, complaint filings by Renier, accusations about Renier --- including even my prior testimony of fraud.
As everyone knows I've been critical of Noreen Renier for over three decades --- and 99.999% of anything I've said about Renier I've also said in print, publicly, or in testimony before his ruling as well. And that's all covered under the protection.
It's now been very close to one year and we've had no response by Ms. Renier to the questions posed (at that time on the JREF forum) at:
http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/using an alias.html
So ignore what has become a very easy to ignore disappearing noise. Thousands are ignoring her clearly as many global web sites critical of Noreen Renier have now received 10-50 times the daily views of her own website. One suspects she's paying a pretty penny just to keep her site up in the top seven on search engines, and yet its still disappearing in Europe, Asia, Latin America and Brazil.
Amazingly it's now getting as few as one handful of views per day across the United States. I'm well aware of many former Renier followers who will not purchase her visionary readings over the phone. The walls have closed in.
Why? In part because she can't afford to answer the basic questions now posted for over 10 months by many.
Noreen Renier is well aware as I've mentioned here in previous posts that the two judgments ordered against her (and in my favor) by federal Judge William Anderson will likely prevent lawsuit filings from her going forward. They will be stopped dead in their tracks across any court throughout the United States shortly after ANY filing. Why? Because she has been ruled as not a credible witness by a federal judge who also noted she misled his federal court.
Indeed, Ms. Renier filed multiple legal appeals in two higher courts coupled with over 200 total pages of rambling writings and attachments. Many items directly faulted the judgement of Judge Anderson's rulings. He likely was none to happy with some of the words posted.
But again both of those higher courts again ruled in my favor and kept her 'not credible' judgment in full, and on-going.
That's brought the total to six federal court decisions against her, all rulings in my favor, across five different federal courts from 2006-2012. And Judge William Anderson ruled that I was assigned “protection against further litigation” from Noreen Renier effectively across some 5000+ pages of prior testimonies, complaint filings by Renier, accusations about Renier --- including even my prior testimony of fraud.
As everyone knows I've been critical of Noreen Renier for over three decades --- and 99.999% of anything I've said about Renier I've also said in print, publicly, or in testimony before his ruling as well. And that's all covered under the protection.
It's now been very close to one year and we've had no response by Ms. Renier to the questions posed (at that time on the JREF forum) at:
http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/using an alias.html
So ignore what has become a very easy to ignore disappearing noise. Thousands are ignoring her clearly as many global web sites critical of Noreen Renier have now received 10-50 times the daily views of her own website. One suspects she's paying a pretty penny just to keep her site up in the top seven on search engines, and yet its still disappearing in Europe, Asia, Latin America and Brazil.
Amazingly it's now getting as few as one handful of views per day across the United States. I'm well aware of many former Renier followers who will not purchase her visionary readings over the phone. The walls have closed in.
Why? In part because she can't afford to answer the basic questions now posted for over 10 months by many.
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Sherlock
Muse
By-the-way, the "tricks" I mentioned continue. Myself and others aren't quite ready to showcase them yet. But please stand by. And in addition to my hour-ago posting directly above, I've posted at length the issues that got her into trouble with Judge Anderson during her latest bankruptcy.
I think anyone reading this posting --- up since early 2007 --- will clearly find Ms. Renier mislead the federal court. But the facts are facts.
The link: http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Her multiple bankruptcies.html
One last point. The "psychic wins against skeptic" posting in 2011 that Renier claimed she won against me is another of her exaggerated hoodwinks. She's won no rulings against me, nor any other skeptic that I'm aware of for at least three decades.
In a small county court in southern Oregon in 1984 she won a ruling against me --- which I've also shown was based on deceptions in her testimony before a six member jury. She filed while living in a southern Oregon community of 1900 people. I've recovered many times over in far higher courts against her since then.
For background on that particular hookwink in unison with Victor Zammit and European psychic Leo Bonomo, see http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Lawyer and credibility troubles.html
I think anyone reading this posting --- up since early 2007 --- will clearly find Ms. Renier mislead the federal court. But the facts are facts.
The link: http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Her multiple bankruptcies.html
One last point. The "psychic wins against skeptic" posting in 2011 that Renier claimed she won against me is another of her exaggerated hoodwinks. She's won no rulings against me, nor any other skeptic that I'm aware of for at least three decades.
In a small county court in southern Oregon in 1984 she won a ruling against me --- which I've also shown was based on deceptions in her testimony before a six member jury. She filed while living in a southern Oregon community of 1900 people. I've recovered many times over in far higher courts against her since then.
For background on that particular hookwink in unison with Victor Zammit and European psychic Leo Bonomo, see http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Lawyer and credibility troubles.html
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Gord_in_Toronto
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Love that website!
Take a look at:
http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Psychic whistle-blower overview.html
A sort of Consumer Reports for rating psychics.
There are a lot of deluded people out there. The best (#1) appears to useful if your library has misfiled a book. And then it goes downhill.
Or perhaps the answer is here (further down the above page):
a real conspiracy? Does this deserve a new thread?
Rincewind
Philosopher
Love that website!
Take a look at:
http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Psychic whistle-blower overview.html
A sort of Consumer Reports for rating psychics.
There are a lot of deluded people out there. The best (#1) appears to useful if your library has misfiled a book. And then it goes downhill.
Or perhaps the answer is here (further down the above page):
Does this deserve a new thread?
Wish I'd thought of that...
Sherlock
Muse
I see there has been no response from Noreen Jean Renier ("NJR") here on this thread challenging my response (items 47 and 48 of this thread from October 26, 2014). It's not surprising since after now a full year now she's never actually cited a specific example of my "lies", nor responded to questions about her own charades at http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/using an alias.html
She gets virtually no attention from any general media now, and the repeats of her old 'police psychic detective' TV series play less and less around the world. I think a few decades-old repeats (none to my knowledge showing in the U.S.) are limited to parts of Canada and scattered spots in Europe. And if they play at all they play very late at night.
I can find her latest books selling now "new" (not used) for between $4-7 with shipping from previous levels typically from $14 to $19 with shipping. And sales volumes are apparently less than a dozen copies a month for all books combined.
She gets virtually no attention from any general media now, and the repeats of her old 'police psychic detective' TV series play less and less around the world. I think a few decades-old repeats (none to my knowledge showing in the U.S.) are limited to parts of Canada and scattered spots in Europe. And if they play at all they play very late at night.
I can find her latest books selling now "new" (not used) for between $4-7 with shipping from previous levels typically from $14 to $19 with shipping. And sales volumes are apparently less than a dozen copies a month for all books combined.
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Still, she has probably reached retirement age, so if she has provided for her old age, she can look back on a life of scamming, and see that she did well. Apparently, the exposures of her methods and the failed lawsuits has only been pinpricks if she could keep it going for so long.
Sherlock
Muse
Psychic Actress Noreen Renier: Soon to be 78 years old
Psychic actress Noreen Renier turns 78 on January 16, 2015.
It is actually likely she has very little financial reserves now --- even granting that she likely stashed portions of undeclared cash and assets before initially declaring her last bankruptcy.
For more on that $100,000 + scenario see: http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Her multiple bankruptcies.html
Yet such undeclared "I forgot" exclusions have likely been drained over the past three years as her client base for $250-$1000 readings has surely tumbled over the cliff. Just like her book sales, DVD lectures, etc.
No longer in the best of health she too will disappear quickly from public memory alongside other "great" psychic performers who have died since 2011. These include Sylvia Browne (died at 77 last year), Kenny Kingston (age 87), Bobbie Drinnon (died at 61 in March), Irene Hughes (age 92), Joyce Morgan (age 71), Annette Martin (age 74), Raymond Pero (age 68), Bertie Catchings (age 84), Jillian Lane (age 53), and Rosemary Brown (age 85). All held major media attention --- and yet most have already faded from public memory.
And Noreen Renier's death will be no exception --- though there is certain to be at least one critical book to be released upon her death that will bring further attention to a life filled with delusions and exaggerations. And that book will certainly remind readers that she refused to answer the questions posed at http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/using an alias.html
Psychic actress Noreen Renier turns 78 on January 16, 2015.
It is actually likely she has very little financial reserves now --- even granting that she likely stashed portions of undeclared cash and assets before initially declaring her last bankruptcy.
For more on that $100,000 + scenario see: http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/Her multiple bankruptcies.html
Yet such undeclared "I forgot" exclusions have likely been drained over the past three years as her client base for $250-$1000 readings has surely tumbled over the cliff. Just like her book sales, DVD lectures, etc.
No longer in the best of health she too will disappear quickly from public memory alongside other "great" psychic performers who have died since 2011. These include Sylvia Browne (died at 77 last year), Kenny Kingston (age 87), Bobbie Drinnon (died at 61 in March), Irene Hughes (age 92), Joyce Morgan (age 71), Annette Martin (age 74), Raymond Pero (age 68), Bertie Catchings (age 84), Jillian Lane (age 53), and Rosemary Brown (age 85). All held major media attention --- and yet most have already faded from public memory.
And Noreen Renier's death will be no exception --- though there is certain to be at least one critical book to be released upon her death that will bring further attention to a life filled with delusions and exaggerations. And that book will certainly remind readers that she refused to answer the questions posed at http://www.gpinquirygroup.com/gpinquirygroup/using an alias.html
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Were these characters active in an age where such performances were regarded as more credible, or have young scammers stepped up to take over the scene? I would guess the latter.
Sherlock
Muse
The number of profitable operations (incomes / revenues where annual profits were higher than $100,000 U.S.) run by "psychics" under the age of 50 is significantly less --- as much as 90% less by some estimates --- than from 1980-1990. Much of that drop may be accounted by the web and the easy ability to now track visionary claims.
It's tough now to claim amazing foresight when the historical record says otherwise.
It's also easier to get reviews before buying and spot some really bad psychic charades --- including criminal records and lawsuits.
You don't see "new" psychics opening up shops --- just those left over businesses from the 70's and 80's. And readings over the phone or via the internet have also died off --- as everyone can find something else more entertaining to do --- for less.
While the paranormal community has niche segments of profitability --- its clearly in decline. And even the Hollywood community seems to have far fewer psychics and astrologers around.
Up and coming psychics? Not with any credible track records.
It's tough now to claim amazing foresight when the historical record says otherwise.
It's also easier to get reviews before buying and spot some really bad psychic charades --- including criminal records and lawsuits.
You don't see "new" psychics opening up shops --- just those left over businesses from the 70's and 80's. And readings over the phone or via the internet have also died off --- as everyone can find something else more entertaining to do --- for less.
While the paranormal community has niche segments of profitability --- its clearly in decline. And even the Hollywood community seems to have far fewer psychics and astrologers around.
Up and coming psychics? Not with any credible track records.
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rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
Thanks Sherlock. That is something I am glad someone who knows about these things can say.
A long way to go but skeptics have come a long way already.
A long way to go but skeptics have come a long way already.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
If it's just entertainment in the eyes of those who come to such frauds for entertainment, what then is the problem?
Have there ever been any 'psychics' who have credible track records?
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Give it a year ... or less.
I'm no psychic at all, however, without knowing from where, the thought suddenly came to me, as clear as a bell.
Almost as if the thought was pushed into my mind
rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
Change credible to popular and what was said makes more sense. There are plenty of psychics who have had popular track records. But from the context, there will be no more new ones.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
A track record for popularity does indeed sound more meaningful 