PSA Flight 1771: Eerily Similar To Shanksville (New Video)

[Walter Ego]

My latest video. Thanks to AJM8125 for finding the original footage on YouTube and providing the title.



Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 was a commercial flight that crashed in San Luis Obispo County, California, on December 7, 1987. All 43 people on board the aircraft died, including the man who caused the crash, a disgruntled former employee of USAir, the parent company of PSA.

The cash site was eerily similar to the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 on 9/11/2001. Like Flight 93, PSA 1771 crashed at high speed after a steep dive leaving an impact crater in the ground and the plane disintegrated in small pieces scattering light weight debris (including vital clues to the cause of the crash) up to eight miles from the crash site.

First responder Detective Bill Wammock of the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office from the video: “[We saw] nothing that resembled an airliner... we went on for hours, before we heard the news reports of a missing airliner, believing that we were dealing with a small airplane full of newspapers that had crashed. We saw no pieces of the aircraft that were larger than, maybe, a human hand. It did not look like a passenger aircraft.”

More info on Flight 1771 from Wikipedia.

 

[CurtC]

Eight miles ?!?

It obviously was shot down by NORAD!

I wonder, if Killtown were to watch that, if you'd see visible arcing and sparks coming out of his head.

 

[The Big Dog]

Very interesting.

I note that there is a very substantial similarity to the WTC as well. In California, they found the "suicide note" written on an air sickness bag. In New York, they found one of the hijackers' Passports.

 

[Alt+F4]

Excellent work Walter! I noticed another similarity, though not having to do with the debris field. PSA Flight 1771 was an earlier example of a selfish criminal using an aircraft to committ mass murder. If there is a hell, I hope David Burke is burning there in the next cage over from Hitler and the 19 sociopaths from 9/11.

 

[KDLarsen]

Excellent work Walter! I noticed another similarity, though not having to do with the debris field. PSA Flight 1771 was an earlier example of a selfish criminal using an aircraft to committ mass murder. If there is a hell, I hope David Burke is burning there in the next cage over from Hitler and the 19 sociopaths from 9/11.

You can add Auburn Calloway to that list, he attempted to hijack a FedEx flight and crash it into the FedEx HQ to avenge his near-certain dismissal.

Or Chris Phatswe, a suicidal pilot who commandeered an Air Botswana ATR and flew in circles for a few hours, before crashing it into the rest of the Air Botswana fleet that was parked on the ground.

Or, and rather controversially, Gameel Al-Batouti, the first officer on Egyptair 990.

 

[CurtC]

You can add Auburn Calloway to that list...

If you define "burning in hell" as "incarcerated at federal prison in California," then indeed he is.

 

[lapman]

Something else that is interesting from the AirDisaster.com article:

when traveling at a velocity of 1.2x Mach, the aircraft breaks apart and the Flight Recorders cease functioning.

So DC's whole "100 mph over speed limit" argument is shot as well as all other "the planes should have broken up" arguments.

 

[Alt+F4]

If you define "burning in hell" as "incarcerated at federal prison in California," then indeed he is.

I dunno, I hear that Scott Peterson gets quite a few marriage proposals while rotting on death row. I hope this was the terrorist's "reward":

NSFW

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38673

 

[TJM]

My latest video. Thanks to AJM8125 for finding the original footage on YouTube and providing the title.



Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 was a commercial flight that crashed in San Luis Obispo County, California, on December 7, 1987. All 43 people on board the aircraft died, including the man who caused the crash, a disgruntled former employee of USAir, the parent company of PSA.

The cash site was eerily similar to the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 on 9/11/2001. Like Flight 93, PSA 1771 crashed at high speed after a steep dive leaving an impact crater in the ground and the plane disintegrated in small pieces scattering light weight debris (including vital clues to the cause of the crash) up to eight miles from the crash site.

First responder Detective Bill Wammock of the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office from the video: “[We saw] nothing that resembled an airliner... we went on for hours, before we heard the news reports of a missing airliner, believing that we were dealing with a small airplane full of newspapers that had crashed. We saw no pieces of the aircraft that were larger than, maybe, a human hand. It did not look like a passenger aircraft.”

More info on Flight 1771 from Wikipedia.

Glad to have helped. I'm having a C. Montgomery Burns moment here: "Exxxxcellent!"

 

[CurtC]

But if 1771 broke apart at 13000 feet, is it really similar to UAL93?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I wonder, if Killtown were to watch that, if you'd see visible arcing and sparks coming out of his head.

likely the same way he dismissed the sandia labs footage of the F4

"long term psy-ops"

 

[Magenta]

But if 1771 broke apart at 13000 feet, is it really similar to UAL93?

I was wondering that too. The AirDisaster.com article doesn't give a source for that information, however. The NTSB summary, on the other hand, indicates the plane was intact on impact:

A RECENTLY DISCHARGED USAIR EMPLOYEE BOARDED PSA FLT 1771 AFTER HAVING LEFT A GOODBYE MESSAGE WITH FRIENDS. HE BYPASSED SECURITY AND CARRIED ABD A BORROWED 44 CALIBER PISTOL. A NOTE WRITTEN BY THIS PSGR, FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE, THREATENED HIS FORMER SUPERVISOR AT USAIR, WHO WAS ABOARD THE FLT. AT 1613, THE PLT RPTD TO OAKLAND ARTCC THAT HE HAD AN EMERGENCY AND THAT GUNSHOTS HAD BEEN FIRED IN THE AIRPLANE. WITHIN 25 SECONDS, OAKLAND CTR CONTROLLERS OBSERVED THAT PSA 1771 HAD BEGUN A RAPID DESCENT FM WHICH IT DID NOT RECOVER. WITNESSES ON THE GND SAID THE AIRPLANE WAS INTACT AND THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF FIRE BEFORE THE AIRPLANE STRUCK THE GND IN A STEEP NOSE-DOWN ATTITUDE. THE CVR TAPE REVEALED THE SOUNDS OF A SCUFFLE AND SEVERAL SHOTS WHICH WERE APPARENTLY FIRED IN OR NEAR THE COCKPIT. THE PISTOL WAS FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE WITH 6 EXPENDED ROUNDS. FAA RULES PERMITTED AIRLINE EMPLOYEES TO BYPASS SECURITY CHECKPOINTS.

 

[TJM]

I was wondering that too. The AirDisaster.com article doesn't give a source for that information, however. The NTSB summary, on the other hand, indicates the plane was intact on impact:

I've been looking at other sites info on 1771 and have seen no other reference to the plane breaking up at 13,000 ft. This plus the similarity to the 93 crash site and the NTSB report lead me to believe that Airdisaster.com's reference is inacurate. I've emailed the site asking for the source of their article. No reply thus far, I'll keep everyone posted.

 

[Magenta]

Actually this came up on a thread earlier this year:

Yes, that's the one where the guy's suicide note survived. Conspiracists say these things don't happen. The plane broke up in midair, though, and I wonder how much hit the ground intact.

Good question. I recently asked it at airdisaster.com, but no one there knew the answer. Their report states this, but the NTSB summary, as well as a ground witness, stated it crashed intact. I suspect probably only a small portion separated, as it's hard to get 650mph with a major in-flight break up. If only the tail came off, that might be compatible with the witness, the FDR ending before impact, and the extremely high speed. I'd like to get the final report, but it's not online.

 

[CurtC]

The breakup at altitude is certainly inconsistent with what was shown in the video: only very small parts, and a crater. A breakup would have left many bigger chunks.

Unless only a part broke off up high, such as the horizontal stabilizer. It would have fluttered down but left the rest of the plane to come in fast like a lawn dart.

 

[TJM]

The breakup at altitude is certainly inconsistent with what was shown in the video: only very small parts, and a crater. A breakup would have left many bigger chunks.

Unless only a part broke off up high, such as the horizontal stabilizer. It would have fluttered down but left the rest of the plane to come in fast like a lawn dart.

I agree. This is what a plane winds up looking like as the result of an in-flight explosion.



These are the remains of Pan Am 103.

 

[TJM]

Eight miles ?!?

It obviously was shot down by NORAD!

I wonder, if Killtown were to watch that, if you'd see visible arcing and sparks coming out of his head.

I'm not sure if he's seen the video, but he knows the incident exists.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x78708

Check out the the classic woo at the end of his post.

 

[CurtC]

Wow - if you combine the numbers of Flight 11 and Flight 77, you get Flight 1771! That's the only significant thing he says about 1771. Well, we always knew that he is insane, that just adds even more confirmation.

 

[hughie522]

There are significant structural difference between a BAe-146 (PSA 1771) and 757 (United 93).

One has a high-wing, T-tail configuration while the other has a low-wing, 'horizontal stabiliser below tail fin'. Comparing these two aircraft (as opposed to comparing one 757 accident to another) is a bit sketchy.

In several previous accidents (especially those involving 707/720s), when the aircraft enters into a dive it tends to break up in the following sequence: ailerons/elevators/rudder, tail fin, wing tips, engines (torn from mounts), horizontal stabiliser (torn from mounts), outer wings and finally the fuselage.

I can't think of any incident where an aircraft has disintegrated completely (i.e. into 'hand-sized pieces') prior to hitting the ground ('shredding' the aircraft through rapid deceleration).

 

[beachnut]

There are significant structural difference between a BAe-146 (PSA 1771) and 757 (United 93).

One has a high-wing, T-tail configuration while the other has a low-wing, 'horizontal stabiliser below tail fin'. Comparing these two aircraft (as opposed to comparing one 757 accident to another) is a bit sketchy.

In several previous accidents (especially those involving 707/720s), when the aircraft enters into a dive it tends to break up in the following sequence: ailerons/elevators/rudder, tail fin, wing tips, engines (torn from mounts), horizontal stabiliser (torn from mounts), outer wings and finally the fuselage.

I can't think of any incident where an aircraft has disintegrated completely (i.e. into 'hand-sized pieces') prior to hitting the ground ('shredding' the aircraft through rapid deceleration).

Flight 93 hit the ground in one big piece. The impact over 1600 pounds of TNT in kinetic energy.

The other accident is representative of how a plane looks in parts after being broken up. To teach idiot truthers a bunch of parts do make up a plane. There were the standard, "doesn't look like a plane" quotes from 1771, just like 93 that fuel the idiot ideas of 9/11 truth. So they are similar; we have to pick the correct level of abstraction or something.