Protests During National Anthem...

[Donal]

By all means, let us talk about the issue being protested.

And you go right back to the concern trolling

I never tried to say that he did not have a right to protest whatever it is that he wanted to protest. Instead, I simply pointed out that if he does protest, then it may cause him some serious money to do so.

You don't have to point out either of those things.. Everyone agrees Kaepernick has a right to protest (ok, some people don't, but we're not talking to them) and people have a right to be mad at him, and people have the right to call them morons etc etc etc ad infinitum. We really don't need to go through that feedback loop.

And, as mentioned, Kaepernick probably understands the consequences he may face far more than you or I.

Such things have been know to happen before to athletes: just look at the Muhammad Ali case for example.

Ya, he became one of the most beloved athletes of all time. I wonder how many folks who were praising him a few months ago are trashing Kaepernick now.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I never tried to say that he did not have a right to protest whatever it is that he wanted to protest. Instead, I simply pointed out that if he does protest, then it may cause him some serious money to do so.

Since he's no doubt aware of that himself, doesn't that rather suggest that he sincerely believes in the cause he's protesting for?

Dave

 

[Crossbow]

Agree (depending on the controversy anyway).
And that's probably why no real star players have taken any kind of major role with these "protests".

Thanks much. That is about what I was thinking as well.

 

[Jules Galen]

Agree (depending on the controversy anyway).
And that's probably why no real star players have taken any kind of major role with these "protests".

And I can understand that. However, to come out and actively criticize Kapaernick as did sports caster Brent Musburger did recently I believe is potential career suicide. I don't think the "Stank" will ever wash off Musburger and his ilk.

 

[332nd]

I never tried to say that he did not have a right to protest whatever it is that he wanted to protest. Instead, I simply pointed out that if he does protest, then it may cause him some serious money to do so.

I'm not sure how much he's lost in endorsements, but I do know that the 9ers jumped the gun & gave him a $114,000,000 contract with $61,000,000 guaranteed. (Panther fan giggle) So he's not hurting.

 

[applecorped]

Laziest protest ever

 

[Crossbow]

And you go right back to the concern trolling

You do not know what you are talking about. I am not trolling.

You don't have to point out either of those things.. Everyone agrees Kaepernick has a right to protest (ok, some people don't, but we're not talking to them) and people have a right to be mad at him, and people have the right to call them morons etc etc etc ad infinitum. We really don't need to go through that feedback loop.

Wrong!

You do not get to decide what I should post and what I should not post.

However, if you have a problem with my postings, then you are at liberty to report them.

And, as mentioned, Kaepernick probably understands the consequences he may face far more than you or I.

I do hope that you are correct.

As for me, I do not know him so I cannot say one way or the other.

Ya, he became one of the most beloved athletes of all time. I wonder how many folks who were praising him a few months ago are trashing Kaepernick now.

I expect that there are quite a few people who are doing just that.

 

[Crossbow]

Since he's no doubt aware of that himself, doesn't that rather suggest that he sincerely believes in the cause he's protesting for?

Dave

He may well be aware of the possible consequences. Since I do not know him, then I cannot say for certain one way or the other.

 

[Crossbow]

I'm not sure how much he's lost in endorsements, but I do know that the 9ers jumped the gun & gave him a $114,000,000 contract with $61,000,000 guaranteed. (Panther fan giggle) So he's not hurting.

Wow!

They should have hired me instead. I would have worked for only half of that amount.

 

[Mumbles]

Right. People are angry about players taking a knee, or about socks.

They aren't angry about innocent people being shot and killed by police, though.

Which one seems more important to you?

And I address that to every person who responds to this thread.

 

[Jules Galen]

Right. People are angry about players taking a knee, or about socks.

They aren't angry about innocent people being shot and killed by police, though.

Which one seems more important to you?

And I address that to every person who responds to this thread.

We get it. But there are a bunch of people out there doing their best to cloud the issue.

Thanks.

 

[Mumbles]

We get it. But there are a bunch of people out there doing their best to cloud the issue.

Thanks.

Oh, folks get that as well. And they speak out clearly about what the issue is., whenever asked.

There will always be people trying to cloud the issue. One point of these protests is to just cut through their BS, by showing how messed up things are.

 

[Donal]

You do not know what you are talking about. I am not trolling.

You are showing more concerned over a guy with $61 million in guaranteed money than with people being wrongfully killed by government workers. You consistently derail the conversation with comments about Kaepernick's employment.

Wrong!

And yet, you bend over backwards to prove me right.

You do not get to decide what I should post and what I should not post.

I didn't. I pointed out how pointless what you posted is and am now calling you out for being part of the problem.

However, if you have a problem with my postings, then you are at liberty to report them.

More fallacious than breaking the MA, as I see it. You have to do some pretty extreme stuff to get me to report you.

I do hope that you are correct.

Dude's got people who handle this stuff for him. Agents, lawyers, accountants etc etc

As for me, I do not know him so I cannot say one way or the other.

And yet, you will continue to talk about that over the wrongful death of people at the hands of police officers.

I expect that there are quite a few people who are doing just that.

Without a hint of irony.

 

[ponderingturtle]

And you go right back to the concern trolling



You don't have to point out either of those things.. Everyone agrees Kaepernick has a right to protest (ok, some people don't, but we're not talking to them) and people have a right to be mad at him, and people have the right to call them morons etc etc etc ad infinitum. We really don't need to go through that feedback loop.

And, as mentioned, Kaepernick probably understands the consequences he may face far more than you or I.



Ya, he became one of the most beloved athletes of all time. I wonder how many folks who were praising him a few months ago are trashing Kaepernick now.

We will have to wait and see if Kaepernick "transcends race" like Ali did. I figure that is unlikely.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Laziest protest ever

Not any more lazy than a sit in.

 

[Crossbow]

You are showing more concerned over a guy with $61 million in guaranteed money than with people being wrongfully killed by government workers. You consistently derail the conversation with comments about Kaepernick's employment.

You wrong again. I never said anything of the sort.

And yet, you bend over backwards to prove me right.

So everything is about you? That explains a great deal.

I didn't. I pointed out how pointless what you posted is and am now calling you out for being part of the problem.

You are wrong again. The only problem are the fictitious problems that you have invented so that you can feel aggrieved about something.

More fallacious than breaking the MA, as I see it. You have to do some pretty extreme stuff to get me to report you.

You are wrong again. I have not done anything to you and I have not broken the Membership Agreement.

Dude's got people who handle this stuff for him. Agents, lawyers, accountants etc etc

Well then, terrific for him.

And yet, you will continue to talk about that over the wrongful death of people at the hands of police officers.

You are wrong again. I never did anything of the sort.

Without a hint of irony.

If you can ever figure out what you are saying, then let us know.

 

[Donal]

You wrong again. I never said anything of the sort.

In posts 10, 14, 18, 19, 27 and 28, you referenced Kaepernick's earning and/or your "concern" about it.

So everything is about you? That explains a great deal.

You certainly won't let it be about the wrongful death of people at the hands of government workers.

You are wrong again. The only problem are the fictitious problems that you have invented so that you can feel aggrieved about something.

There is plenty of evidence to support the claim that minorities and poor people are disproportionately arrested, punished and even killed by the various facets of our justice system. It is in no way fictitious.

You are wrong again. I have not done anything to you and I have not broken the Membership Agreement.

I just said I don't think you are breaking the MA. And if you were, it wouldn't be enough for me to report you.

Well then, terrific for him.

Can you finally move on?

You are wrong again. I never did anything of the sort.

In all of your posts, there are 2 sentences about that. And you quickly derailed back to your "concern" over Kaepernick's employment status.

If you can ever figure out what you are saying, then let us know.

People wrongfully being killed far outweighs a government sponsored promotional gimmick or your concern over a millionaire's employment. Are you still confused?

 

[Donal]

We will have to wait and see if Kaepernick "transcends race" like Ali did. I figure that is unlikely.

Well, no. Ali was a generational talent. Also, he was in a sport that was all about self promotion. But its not like Ali was openly embraced my mainstream America.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Well, no. Ali was a generational talent. Also, he was in a sport that was all about self promotion. But its not like Ali was openly embraced my mainstream America.

In his death he was. Then it was all about how he transcended race.

 

[The Atheist]

Kaepernick has the best selling jersey in the league since he started with the protests. That is pretty good business for a marginal player who lost his starting position and many thought would be cut from his team before the year started.
Now both the team and the player are profiting from his presence.

If you want to state the position honestly, you'd acknowledge that the player is making no money out of it at all, giving all of the proceeds to relevant charities.

Never let facts stand in the way of a god rant, eh?

Right. People are angry about players taking a knee, or about socks.

They aren't angry about innocent people being shot and killed by police, though.

Which one seems more important to you?

And I address that to every person who responds to this thread.

Bingo!

That's it in a nutshell, and it seems pretty clear to me that those crying about the protests wish all the damned ******* would just shut up and do as whitey tells them.