Prophecy Timeline Challenge

[Tanstaafl]

You mean the bible contradicts itself? Shock! Horror!

If the Bible logically contradicts itself, that means logic itself is wrong.

 

[Darth Rotor]

You mean the bible contradicts itself? Shock! Horror!

Not in the matter of marriage. For further adventures in cherry picking, I'll cherry pick a word out of context for you: Pilate.

So, using cherry pick theory, the Bible decries exercise as evil, since Pilates is an exercise regimen and Pilate was a bad guy in the NT.

One Pilate is bad enough, two Pilates are worse.

DR

 

[c4ts]

The Bible was written by men, but only in the parts which are conveniently contradictory or incompatible with current interpretation.

 

[Darth Rotor]

The Bible was written by men, but only in the parts which are conveniently contradictory or incompatible with current interpretation.

It seemed to me that some of the OT was written by women, what with the obsessive and detailed descriptions of clothing, meals, and decorations in various books and passages covering the glory days of the Hebrews.

DR

 

[slingblade]

It seemed to me that some of the OT was written by women, what with the obsessive and detailed descriptions of clothing, meals, and decorations in various books and passages covering the glory days of the Hebrews.

DR

It seems to me most women probably couldn't write, nor would they be given any kind of authority to do so. There is a reason why the words chattel and cattle seem so much alike...

I just love how you're playing freely into the stereotype that all men are always rational and all women are always obsessive, read: mentally ill.

Actually, no, I don't.

 

[Hokulele]

Not in the matter of marriage. For further adventures in cherry picking, I'll cherry pick a word out of context for you: Pilate.

So, using cherry pick theory, the Bible decries exercise as evil, since Pilates is an exercise regimen and Pilate was a bad guy in the NT.

One Pilate is bad enough, two Pilates are worse.

DR

Ooh, cherry picking! My turn! This is my favorite quote taken out of context.

"For the LORD your God [is] God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons..." Deut. 10:17

Says it all, "terrible" and "regardeth not persons".

 

[mylfmyhnr]

...the Lord ...Jesus said,...

i give up. guess you really can't have a conversation with a person who has his hands over his ears, going "la la la" all the time..

 

[mylfmyhnr]

It seemed to me that some of the OT was written by women, what with the obsessive and detailed descriptions of clothing, meals, and decorations in various books and passages covering the glory days of the Hebrews.

DR

unlike some here i thought that was rather funny!!

 

[jsfisher]

The worldly Christian church has rewritten the Lord's word and deems Jews who don't believe in the Messiah as the 144,000, but obvious;y that is a ludicrous misinterpretation.... and the Jews love to have mislead the church Christians.

This all reminds me of one of the more obscure Bible-related stories. I think many here will recognize it as having appeared in Bishhop Wilson's notes in his Bible version commonly known as the Bath Bible (1785).

It is the Parable of the Escutcheons. They protected the sacred pipes in the Land of Phlange. The Escutcheons were a reflective lot, but they concealed an ugliness that did not wash with God. So, God sent upon them a plague of fungus that tiled across their lands.

Well, I won't belabor the story for all those here familiar with it, but I thought it apropos. Don't you agree?

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

. . .
But with your atitude is understandable that you are baffled. But if you were honest and had some courage and sincerity you wouldn;t be baffled

Understandable baffles are couraged in sincerity. But with your courage and honest altitude wouldn't some baffling.

There, I've fixed it for you. Makes much better sense.

 

[fuelair]

Here is my prophecy, listen if you have ears...

There will come a great realization among men (and women) that David J Jordan knows nothing about evolution, abiogenesis or the big bang.

Do I win the challenge?

Not a prophecy - a foregone conclusion on the basis of extensive evidence. He doesn't even have real knowledge of his claimed real religion - which is vaguely related (some of the names are the same) to christianity.

 

[fuelair]

I've been to DJJ's site twice now, clicking and hunting and getting increasingly baffled: I can't figure out what he's selling.

DJJ, do you have any books, CDs, lotions, salves, or other products that one might wish to buy?

Remember, when you go to his site, he gets visit credit. Please don't feed the troll - especially in his s888house.

 

[fuelair]

hmmm...
i can't post links yet, but wander over here and see what you think.

yadayyahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_God_Damn_Religion_Pergamos.YHWH

and, yes, it's a very pro-biblical site. but to sum up why i'm posting this:

"Proving Yahuweh right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahuweh’s personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan’s moniker as "Ba’al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the Adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior."

Yada Yahweh
Book V : God Damn Religion
The Church Age
found at the above website
(bolding is my own)

(this site is an amazing collection of reasons that the traditional average american christian is not worshiping the god they believe they are. for a true believer this should be really scary stuff. )

"Baal (baʕal; Hebrew: בעל) is a Northwest Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord" that is used for various gods, spirits and demons particularly of the Levant, cognate to Assyrian belu.
At first the name Baal was used by the Jews for their God without discrimination, but as the struggle between the two religions developed, the name Baal was given up in Judaism as a thing of shame, and even names like Jerubbaal were changed to Jerubbesheth: Hebrew bosheth means "shame". Zondervan's Pictorial Bible Dictionary (1976) Since Ba‘al simply means 'Lord', there is no obvious reason why it could not be applied to Yahweh as well as other gods. In fact, Hebrews generally referred to Yahweh as "Adonai" (lord) in prayer (The Word "Hashem" - The Name - is used in everyday speech). "
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oh, and i just answered my own question. as i'm new here i attempted to draw people in to a conversation... apparently i didn't do a very good job of it

This is not the place to try that - anything that looks like DJs S*** is being trashed - because it is worse than trash - it is the blathering of an insincere, dishonest troll trying to draw attention to his drool on other sites to build hits. We have lots of real sites with fun/weird/ intelligent conversation - some even are on the topics of religion. DJ and his kind are not that.

 

[fuelair]

Thanks for the bit of truth sackett, no where do I ask for money, I have to work for it or the Lord will just give it. Freedom means everybody working for themselves and supporting themselves and THEN if they choose helping others. Everyone has to work. The great crime about most cons and cults is that the top doesn;t work and the bottom members do all the work and support the top elite.

But Jesus said, the greatest shall be the least and the hardest workers, and people who are lazy don;t like that so they try to be controllers and talkers to get away from work..

And Yes support that Indian missionary, he is a gem and a worker...

Thanks sack you made my day to see an honest post... much appreciated

Interesting use of the word honest. I know every post I have made here in response to you was honest from my end and based on my beliefs and understanding of you, your beliefs, your purposes, your sense of honor, etc. You seem to conflate honest with some admission that you have used a word correctly or accurately stated some single unimportant point.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

So: DJJ is just in it for the fun.

Crazier than a betsey-bug.

Summore of that TRUTH, Djj.

How twisted you become when you find out I am not in it for money, so you flip it around and say I am a missionary only for fun. Damned if I do and damned if I don;t, in your eyes, but in the Lord's eyes its the least I can do for hIm considering all He has done for me. And this you will never know til you KNOW Him.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

This is not the place to try that - anything that looks like DJs S*** is being trashed - because it is worse than trash - it is the blathering of an insincere, dishonest troll trying to draw attention to his drool on other sites to build hits. We have lots of real sites with fun/weird/ intelligent conversation - some even are on the topics of religion. DJ and his kind are not that.

Fuelair, please feel free to debase me and my website in whatever manner you choose as the moderators have made it clear that there are no rules when it comes to trashing me and my site. You will be protected by your own, and their rules will favour and protect you...as you must be a donating member.

Mind you I will be flagged if I make a counter acessment of yourselves.

SEE true skeptics are conspiracy theorists thread..

As me just saying someone is compromising because they are afraid to post their stated CT's orientation and beliefs among their fellow athiests HERE, was deemed a violation. yet I can be called everything under the sun, and there is no violation.

 

[Terry]

Fuelair, please feel free to debase me and my website in whatever manner you choose as the moderators have made it clear that there are no rules when it comes to trashing me and my site.

The same rules apply to comments about you and your website as do to any other member or any other member's website.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

The same rules apply to comments about you and your website as do to any other member or any other member's website.

Only in your mind Terry, as there are no rules for HERE if you are among the congregation of the athiests or false skeptics. The moderators will protect you, and you will not be flagged for villifying and degrading any that come expecting a true discussion forum.

I would be shocked if there was a change, but have been HERE long enough to know, no degrading name calling is flagged when directed at true skeptics. False vile skeptics get away with almost everything. The proof is right HERE on line.

 

[jsfisher]

Only in your mind Terry, as there are no rules for HERE if you are among the congregation of the athiests or false skeptics. The moderators will protect you, and you will not be flagged for villifying and degrading any that come expecting a true discussion forum.

I think you have moved from the pulpit to the cross, DJJ. Perhaps if you actually did discuss things, present evidence, examine evidence presented by others, and not persist in recycling the same circular arguments, misstatements, and out and out lies, you might find this place more accommodating.

 

[fuelair]

Fuelair, please feel free to debase me and my website in whatever manner you choose as the moderators have made it clear that there are no rules when it comes to trashing me and my site. You will be protected by your own, and their rules will favour and protect you...as you must be a donating member.

Mind you I will be flagged if I make a counter acessment of yourselves.

SEE true skeptics are conspiracy theorists thread..

As me just saying someone is compromising because they are afraid to post their stated CT's orientation and beliefs among their fellow athiests HERE, was deemed a violation. yet I can be called everything under the sun, and there is no violation.

Friendly note, I have been here almost a year, and I pretty well know the limits and how to phrase things carefully. As you clearly do. If I thought the mods or admins based decisions on donations or who the person was, I would have no interest in being here. Several offensive persons have made that accusation - some are gone (mostly for clear and absolute violations not related to those accusations) some are still here and still making the untrue accusations.. If I called you what I truly believe you to be, I know I would be at least banned - but I would rather continue evaluating accurately your output until you realize you are wasting your time here and crawl away. Best, fuelair.