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Prop 19 (Legalizing Marijuana) in CA going down in flames..

I voted against it, even though I support legalization.

The proposed law was a mess. In my opinion it would have set an unfortunate precedent. I'd encourage the supporters to put together a much cleaner legislation, rather than trying to appease or bribe the other side. It's a civil rights issue. Present it as such. That I'll vote for.
 
Looks like everyone got high and forgot to vote.

I can't stand pot, and totally agree with Mr. Mackey that the law was pretty shoddy, but I was still gunning for it to pass. It's just one of those social landmarks I've always wanted to see.
 
I voted "no" since I thought the law was a mess as proposed. However, I do support legalization, but under more strict circumstances
 
Score another point for propaganda over facts. At the last minute people became fearful it was a dangerous drug despite the fact it isn't any worse than cigarettes or alcohol, two products no one would vote to make illegal.

News report
In California, half of the voters consistently tell pollsters they favor legal marijuana and a tenth are unsure. In September, support for the initiative crept above the halfway mark, triggering euphoria among advocates. But voters became skeptical about the details.

Opponents exploited their doubts by mocking it in radio ads and suggesting that it would create an epidemic of dope-addled teenagers, motorists and nurses.
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Seriously, nurses? Like everyone would just lose control and go to work high? Alcohol is legal, nurses would be fired for coming to work with alcohol on their breath and especially coming to work under the influence of any drug. Reminds me of the BS campaign of the 60s and 70s on the danger of the 'gateway drug'. :rolleyes:
 
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Here in Arizona there was a ballot initiative for medical marijuana. It looks like it's going to fail at 50.3% to 49.7%. It's a lot closer than I expected. I don't recall seeing much advertising surrounding the subject, but then again, I use my DVR mostly.
 
Arus808 said:
I voted "no" since I thought the law was a mess as proposed. However, I do support legalization, but under more strict circumstances
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You're right, it was a mess...

Instead of statewide rules, regulation is left to individual cities and counties. That's right. Every one of California's 478 cities and 58 counties would be allowed, but not required, to establish its own laws on how marijuana can be grown, sold, taxed and used. On some issues, local control makes sense, but this isn't one of them. Hundreds of local marijuana ordinances would also confuse the inevitable federal challenges to Proposition 19.
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http://www.mercurynews.com/editorials/ci_16330791?source=rss
 
WildCat said:
That's pretty much the way alcohol is regulated, but I don't see many people preferring prohibition to the current hodge-podge of alcohol laws.
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Excellent point. Check out this Wiki article that touches on alcohol laws by state:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alcohol_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state

Check out the blurb for Kansas:
Kansas's alcohol laws are among the strictest in the United States. Kansas prohibited all alcohol from 1881 to 1948, and continued to prohibit on-premises sales of alcohol from 1949 to 1987. Sunday sales only have been allowed since 2005. Today, 29 counties still do not permit the on-premises sale of alcohol. 59 counties require a business to receive at least 30% of revenue from food sales to allow on-premises sale of alcohol. Only 17 counties allow general on-premises sales. Not all communities which allow off-premises sales allow sales on Sunday. Sales are prohibited on Christmas and Easter. The only alcoholic beverage which grocery stores and gas stations may only sell is beer with no more than 3.2% alcohol by weight. Other liquor sales only are allowed at state-licensed retail liquor stores. Kansas has comprehensive open container laws for public places and vehicles, public intoxication laws, and requirements for prospective on-premises or off-premises licensees.
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WildCat said:
That's pretty much the way alcohol is regulated, but I don't see many people preferring prohibition to the current hodge-podge of alcohol laws.
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Alcohol is regulated on the state level I believe in California. Much of the opposition I've read against Prop 19 wasn't against marijuana per say, but rather that the proposition itself was poorly constructed.

The Justice Department stating last week that federal drug laws would still be enforced in California even if Prop 19 passed didn't help either.
 
As a side thought I wonder why the federal government decided they were going to swoop in and get tough with marijuana in California but did nothing as five states went with gay marriage?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Alcohol is regulated on the state level I believe in California. Much of the opposition I've read against Prop 19 wasn't against marijuana per say, but rather that the proposition itself was poorly constructed.
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I see all these references to the proposed law being a mess. I hadn't heard that before. Can anyone elaborate? Is it really more of a mess than the marijuana criminal adjudication infrastructure?
 
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