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Proof of Life After Death!!

I'm curious. If John Edwards can communicate with the dead, then something about reality, physics, etc, etc, etc.. is very different to the way it is understood by the majority of the forum. Is the claim that this only applies to John Edwards, or that communicating with the dead (and what ever else is different in this parallel universe) is more common?

Either way, I'm curious that nobody with this talent has bothered/is able to do this under controlled conditions where the possibility of cold/hot reading is removed. Does John Edwards want most people to think his is a fraud? Does he not care that many people don't realize/believe that there is life after death?

The alternative explanation is that if he does have these powers it is actually very, very hard to tell what he is doing from cold reading/hot reading. In which case, how come you seem to be able to tell so easily?

It's like homeopathy... I just don't see how one can simultaneously hold the position that one should try it for oneself because it self evidently works, and also claim that it is quite impossible to test in a way that rules out the possibility of it being made up nonsense.
 
That video that Foster Zygote posted is very telling. There were no hits at all, everything Edward said was guesswork (and not particularly good guesswork at that) and very clear cold reading. The host appeared to be impressed with the snowglobe but what JE was actually talking about was "something" on the table - his first guess was pink roses - and then he got Ginger to show him it. He never stated what it was at all, and then he used that to make a further guess about Disney.

Was your reading similar to that, Robin? Lots and lots of rapid fire talk, many different ideas thrown out at once so you concentrate on the one thing that's close though not exact, and he picks up on that and runs with it.
 
If you find someone who had a personal reading with John Edward and considers him a fraud that would not trump my own personal belief of the validity of MY experience. Mostly because I do not KNOW that person or their credibility or their motives or their general intelligence or if they have an open mind or their ability to recount the reading accurately or their ability to make the connection right away (EX. Tooth Guy" and Valerie Harper) Which I KNOW you are thinking are some of the exact same reasons you can't believe me! I get that. Ironic, but I get it. All I can do is tell my story. And hopefully crack open the door of a closed-mind...
 
If you find someone who had a personal reading with John Edward and considers him a fraud that would not trump my own personal belief of the validity of MY experience. Mostly because I do not KNOW that person or their credibility or their motives or their general intelligence or if they have an open mind or their ability to recount the reading accurately or their ability to make the connection right away (EX. Tooth Guy" and Valerie Harper) Which I KNOW you are thinking are some of the exact same reasons you can't believe me! I get that. Ironic, but I get it. All I can do is tell my story. And hopefully crack open the door of a closed-mind...

...but you haven't told your story...you have insisted that I go read it, and endless commentaries (many of which, apparently, do not support your contentions), on your blog.

Why not tell your story here? Is there a reason you are so insistent on drumming up traffic to your blog?
 
Why do you think John Edward doesn't want the world to know he doesn't do what he does in the way all the other psychics do?
 
What is most obvious to me about Van Praagh in my opinion is his use of cold (perhaps hot too but can't say for sure) reading techniques. Quite disconcerting to witness the fishing and the information which people unwittingly give him and how he tries to turn it around and make it seem new. He gives lots of general info and names and attempts to build on that. Does someone here have a ring of the deceased? And never once saw him give any unusual "he couldn't have known" pieces of information. My brother Occam JR. (see my blog and comments) actually were texting back and forth about just walking out of the event but then it mercifully ended on it's own. Was quite painful..But yes many there were complete believers.


Ok Is this similar to what John Edwards was doing at your reading?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx0Jt2jnLOQ

It is an example of cold reading. Observe how he is trying to convert misses into hits. Observe how he is asking questions of the audiance even though the ghost is supposed to be telling him this information.

observe how the audiance members are filling him in, and observe how he is talking quickly and backtracking when he needs to.

a couple of interesting refrences: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iBwhgbFvnw

And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EBqlpJb1Xg
 
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If you find someone who had a personal reading with John Edward and considers him a fraud that would not trump my own personal belief of the validity of MY experience. Mostly because I do not KNOW that person or their credibility or their motives or their general intelligence or if they have an open mind or their ability to recount the reading accurately or their ability to make the connection right away (EX. Tooth Guy" and Valerie Harper) Which I KNOW you are thinking are some of the exact same reasons you can't believe me! I get that. Ironic, but I get it. All I can do is tell my story. And hopefully crack open the door of a closed-mind...
Well, tell your story then. What did John Edward say that was correct, and what did he say which was wrong, or inapplicable to you? Did your reading resemble the one in the video Foster Zygote linked to in that JE talked very fast, went backwards and forwards, repeated himself with subtle changes until you indicated something was correct? Or was your reading different in some way?

How did the refrigerator conversation, the Pearl Harbour connection, and the Valerie Harper connection come about? What exactly was said by JE and by you or your brother?

Similarly, how did you find out that the tooth guy in fact had a tooth in his pocket, and who was he?
 
If you find someone who had a personal reading with John Edward and considers him a fraud that would not trump my own personal belief of the validity of MY experience. Mostly because I do not KNOW that person or their credibility or their motives or their general intelligence or if they have an open mind or their ability to recount the reading accurately or their ability to make the connection right away (EX. Tooth Guy" and Valerie Harper) Which I KNOW you are thinking are some of the exact same reasons you can't believe me! I get that. Ironic, but I get it. All I can do is tell my story. And hopefully crack open the door of a closed-mind...
Then you admit that you do not have proof but instead have belief, subjectively derived.
 
Or possibly she's just looking to drive traffic to her blog. She's spammed this rubbish elsewhere.


You're not 100% gullible.


If she attends such events she's probably been sucker listed.
All of which had occurred to me, particularly since I had to close two ads within a few seconds of arriving at the site.
 
Considering the rapidity of your response I must guess you did not actually read the blog or any of the comments. The truth is... a completely closed-mind is a very dangerous mindset.

He's just cold reading and not even the best I've seen. What he does is nothing, it's just a sideshow trick.
 
Garrette , Jack by the Hedge, as well as everyone on this thread...I am very curious if you believe in life after death at all? If yes, do you believe that our own deceased loved ones can communicate with us through dreams, signs etc.? Now, IF I were brave I would then refer you all to another one of my blogs (Is It Just A Dream...Or Something More?) but judging by the response I got to my "Proof of Life After Death" blog I am afraid you all would have a conniption! : )
 
Robin, in regards to being open minded: is there anything that would convince you that John Edward is a fraud like all the other "psychics" out there? If not, then this discussion won't proceed very far. The skeptics have indicated what would convince them, and thus far you haven't presented anything remotely credible as evidence. And yet you have accused them of being close minded. So, how about it? What would it take to convince you that he is faking it?
 
Garrette , Jack by the Hedge, as well as everyone on this thread...I am very curious if you believe in life after death at all? If yes, do you believe that our own deceased loved ones can communicate with us through dreams, signs etc.? Now, IF I were brave I would then refer you all to another one of my blogs (Is It Just A Dream...Or Something More?) but judging by the response I got to my "Proof of Life After Death" blog I am afraid you all would have a conniption! : )
I do not, though I used to, and I have investigated various claims, including some touted as absolute definitive final irrefutable truth. I have found it wanting.

Linking to your blog is fine. Linking to it without summarizing key points here and expecting us to cull through pages and pages or through hundreds of mostly irrelevant comments is not okay. You can use your link as support but not as a means to avoid discussion.
 
What is most obvious to me about Van Praagh in my opinion is his use of cold (perhaps hot too but can't say for sure) reading techniques. Quite disconcerting to witness the fishing and the information which people unwittingly give him and how he tries to turn it around and make it seem new. He gives lots of general info and names and attempts to build on that. Does someone here have a ring of the deceased? And never once saw him give any unusual "he couldn't have known" pieces of information. My brother Occam JR. (see my blog and comments) actually were texting back and forth about just walking out of the event but then it mercifully ended on it's own. Was quite painful..But yes many there were complete believers.

How is that any different from the video of John Edward I just linked to?
 
If you find someone who had a personal reading with John Edward and considers him a fraud that would not trump my own personal belief of the validity of MY experience. Mostly because I do not KNOW that person or their credibility or their motives or their general intelligence or if they have an open mind or their ability to recount the reading accurately or their ability to make the connection right away (EX. Tooth Guy" and Valerie Harper) Which I KNOW you are thinking are some of the exact same reasons you can't believe me! I get that. Ironic, but I get it. All I can do is tell my story. And hopefully crack open the door of a closed-mind...
My mind is quite open. I have changed my mind more than once on deeply held beliefs, despite the commensurate emotional turmoil and in some cases the personal cost.

I am intrigued that you admit that your story has no more value than a contradictory story from someone you do not know yet you feel it is sufficient to "crack open" a mind. I suggest that actual evidence that is distinguishable from anecdote would be more effective.
 
Actually my MLS degree and experience working as a librarian the past 23 years is a good indicator that perhaps I already have done a lot of research about fake mediums and the ways they try to trick people.


No, they are indicators that you might know something about libraries. But perhaps not about getting your verbs and subjects to agree.
 

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