Cont: Proof of Immortality VIII

SOdhner said:
Just a minor correction - as he demonstrated, he also can't stick with (or even clearly define) his own "effective debate" strategy.
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Indeed it's simply a McGuffin around which he has paraded a whole cast of dishonest characters. Then he complains about how badly he's supposedly treated.
 
Anyway,

Mojo said:
Anyway, plus ça change...
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Jabba said:
- Anyway, you guys have helped me to better understand my own position -- but, I think it's time to move on.
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Jabba said:
- Anyway, unless he says something today to convince me otherwise, I'll never bother you guys again.
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Jabba said:
- I've run out of ideas for forwarding our conflict, so unless someone actually wants to discuss this some more, I'll try again to move on. Good luck in your searches.
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carlitos said:
Anyway,

Jabba said:
- Anyway, you guys have helped me to better understand my own position -- but, I think it's time to move on.
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And here’s the form that “moving on” took:
Jabba said:
- I'd like to open a new thread, but one related to an old one -- "Immortality and Bayesian Statistics" (or, something like that). I would have continued the old one, but I haven't been able to find it -- and, this one does have a significantly different conclusion...

- The following is an introduction.

- I think that
1. I can virtually prove that the consensus scientific hypothesis about human mortality is incorrect.
2. That hypothesis is that we each have but one, finite life to live.
3. The likelihood of my current existence -- given that scientific hypothesis -- is about 7 billion over infinity, or essentially zero…
4. IOW, given the consensus scientific hypothesis, my current existence is extremely unlikely.
5. That premise has a mathematical implication re the probability that the consensus scientific hypothesis is correct -- or not.
6. This implication is indefinite, as there are three other variables in the appropriate equation.
7. P(H|E) = P(E|H)*P(H)/( P(E|H)*P(H)+P(E|~H)*P(~H)).
8. Including my estimated numbers, I get:
P(H|E) = 7,000,000,000/∞*.99/(7,000,000,000/∞*.99+ .00052*.01), or
9. P(H|E) = 0.
10. IOW, the posterior probability that we each have but one finite life to live is virtually zero.
11. All I need do now is support my estimates…

- I'll be back to do that.
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See also point 5 in RoboTimbo’s list.
 
poblob14 said:
Is Jabba now giving Stack Exchange a try? Or is this an extremely unlikely coincidence? :D
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Neither. The extreme unlikelihood of one's own existence occurs to many people at some point in their life. It's just that the majority of people who have the intellectual capacity to form the question also have the intellectual capacity to work out the answer. The gap is a narrow one, but Jabba is obviously not the only person who falls into it.
 
Some time ago we asked Jabba why he can claim to have succeeded where Aristotle, Plato, and others had failed -- a reasonable question, given what was purported. His answer was that he alone had figured out the statistical nature of his existence, and that this had been factor the earlier philosophers had no knowledge of. But of course the factoid of unlikely birth is hardly a new thing. It's the subject of countless self-help lectures and motivational posters. And Monty Python even managed to wrap it into a comic song about liver donation. Contrary to Jabba's pretensions, it's really not a novel concept.

What is particular to Jabba, however, is his disinterest in the actual topic of debate in favor of his self-aggrandizing "effective debate" method. That's where he believes his true genius actually lies. And as others have mentioned, it would be uncharacteristic of him to just get to the point rather than try to stage his play again.
 
theprestige said:
Don't worry. Buddha's doing a new thread in the same idiom every couple weeks. We just did evolution and reincarnation. Now we're working on telekinesis. Think of them as Jabba speed runs.
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Sadly the content remains about as repetitive as a Jabba thread.
 
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