Proof of Immortality, VII

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Mojo said:
I think this may be the special moderator instruction in question: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11266879#post11266879
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That applied to his old "map" regarding the Shroud of Turin debate. That blog no longer exists, and at the time the moderator warning was made it was indeed riddled with malware. There was, if I recall correctly, a specific moderator warning in this thread, within the past six months. I'll see if I can find it.

ETA here is the operative moderator warning for this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11899083#post11899083
 
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Jabba said:
- I'm happy to post my website address if moderation allows.
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You were directed not to even talk about your blog here.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11899083#post11899083

You specifically called for comments on your defense of the use of Bayes. You specifically called me out by name. I responded here.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=12115073#post12115073
That was not provided for your blog; it was provided for you to address here, or else concede here that you cannot or will not address it.

A comprehensive refutation of your entire proof is here
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11871278&postcount=3198
You know this list exists, yet in six months you have not seen fit to address it appropriately.
 
JayUtah said:
That applied to his old "map" regarding the Shroud of Turin debate. That blog no longer exists, and at the time the moderator warning was made it was indeed riddled with malware. There was, if I recall correctly, a specific moderator warning in this thread, within the past six months. I'll see if I can find it.

ETA here is the operative moderator warning for this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11899083#post11899083
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Damn. Jabba really IS running in circles with his act.
 
Jabba said:
- I'm happy to post my website address if moderation allows.
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Given the explicit prohibitions against discussion of your blog, I'm not sure you're even allowed to PM me the link. Given how you flounced from our private discussion and how I call you out on your cowardice and lack of rational coherence, I doubt you'd WANT me to know what your blog's URL is. I'd end up writing several posts on my own blog, calling you out, in detail, for your deceptive editing practices. A whole separate discussion would spiral out from this site wherein I'd be able to say what I REALLY think, having been freed of the confines of the ISF member agreement. You'd be unable to stop me and soon I'd be showing up ranked higher than you on all the search results for the ideas you're trying to promote.

I mean, after what Irreligiosophy and I did to Redacted when he tried to get into an ideological argument with me on Facebook, it's in your own best interest to keep your site to yourself and avoid it being mentioned here. He was so humiliated he ended up withdrawing his book from sale!

Now, back to the thread's actual topic. Immortality.

What does one mean by Immortality?

What evidence is there to support that definition?
 
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halleyscomet said:
Damn. Jabba really IS running in circles with his act.
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Indeed. I don't think I'm out of line to suggest that we should not hope for even a pretense of discussion of Jabba's proof on its merits any time soon. He has all but declared that he will not respond (at least here) to any questions or corrections, and he has all but promised that the only reason for anyone else to post here would be to contribute to the blog he's not supposed to be talking about on this forum.
 
- I do remember some discussion about problems with me suggesting that members refer to my website, but don't see how any of the moderator comments quoted herein restrict me from doing it...
 
Jabba said:
- I do remember some discussion about problems with me suggesting that members refer to my website, but don't see how any of the moderator comments quoted herein restrict me from doing it...
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"The topic is not about how the discussion here might be commemorated elsewhere."
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11899083#post11899083

Your mention of your blog "commemorating" this discussion is off-topic for this thread. I and several others have made entirely topical posts dealing with your most recent defense of your use of Bayesian methods. You have all but said you will not respond to them. Can you show cause why a reasonable person should believe anything except that you have conceded the debate?
 
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Jabba said:
- I'll include the 4 responses above on my map.
- Godless Dave, would you like to add something.
- LL, Jay?
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Seriously, Jabba, go cram it. You asked me a question. I answered. You fully and completely ignored it.

So, don't take my silence here as any form of agreement. I disagree with you. Every single word you write is nonsense. I just don't have the energy to waste time on someone as rude as you.
 
Jabba said:
- I do remember some discussion about problems with me suggesting that members refer to my website, but don't see how any of the moderator comments quoted herein restrict me from doing it...
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In the past there have been various warnings and prohibitions about activities at Jabba's web site. For the present, I will try to summarize the intent of those previous warnings and prohibitions.

First and foremost, Jabba's web site had been compromised. It was serving malicious content. If and only if that has been resolved may any link to the web site be provided.

Second, recruiting people from here to discuss Jabba's theories there is prohibited. It is rude, too, to attempt to steal our membership. This is a perfectly fine place to discuss things, so discuss things here.

Third, Jabba's web site may not be used as a vehicle to proxy a conversation with someone. If someone else is to react and to respond to discussion here, they must come here to do so.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jsfisher

I will also point out that members here own their posts. The ISF may reproduce and compile the posts, because that's a condition of use for this site. Others don't have that right without the permission of the post owner. Although not an actual Membership Agreement matter, it is still damn rude to not get permission.
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I found his website again (and had no problems), and he is quoting members posts from here again. I can't say if those members gave him permission.
 
Jabba said:
- I do remember some discussion about problems with me suggesting that members refer to my website, but don't see how any of the moderator comments quoted herein restrict me from doing it...
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You do NOT have my permission to steal my posts from here and convert them to your use elsewhere. Your lying here is barely constrained. I can only imagine how freely you must do so elsewhere.
 
I'm halfway tempted to just tell Jabba to go for. His arguments here are so incompetent I can't imagine he could really pull off this fan fiction "roadmap" argument where he comes across as the noble hero besting the stubborn skeptics. He can't argue against the strawmen he's constructed here. He's still getting beaten by the arguments he's making up.

*Note. This was a hypothetical musing and not explicit permission (legal, MA related, or moral) for anyone to intentionally misconstrue my or anyone else's argument elsewhere.*
 
RoboTimbo said:
You do NOT have my permission to steal my posts from here and convert them to your use elsewhere. Your lying here is barely constrained. I can only imagine how freely you must do so elsewhere.
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Jabba, you have no right, nor any invitaion to copy or otherwise reproduce any of my comments made here at ISF (nee JREF) without this disclaimer. I don't think you would want to because I have been an unrelenting critic of yours for maybe 6 years.
 
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Jabba I have a question.

What happens when you die?

In your own words, give me your opinion about that. I'm serious I want you to explain to me what changes when your physical body dies. How does the soul keep going? How does it find a new body? If the soul isn't part of the natural processing of the brain what changes? What is the X factor on a functional level between (Soul + Physical Body) and (Soul - Physical Body)

You've doublespoke so much I don't think even you have a grasp on what distinctions you are making anymore.

You've spent half a decade trying to separate the mind from the brain... I want to see how you square this circle. For context.
 
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