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Proof atheists versus belief athiests

Upchurch said:
How about a Unitarian Atheist:
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I've met lots of those. A mathematician friend of mine defined the Unitarians as "a group of people who believe in at most one God."
 
Upchurch said:
I'm a Unitarian, but the Unitarian Universalist Church has absolutely no creedal requirements for its members. You could believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn for all they care and still be a Unitarian.
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Not to derail this thread, but why do you go to "church" if you don't believe in any form of higher being? Is it so you can have "spiritual" feelings? I don't take Luvox in homeopathic levels because I don't think(and can easily prove) that it won't help me the least bit.
 
new drkitten said:
I've met lots of those. A mathematician friend of mine defined the Unitarians as "a group of people who believe in at most one God."
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So a Unitarian can't believe in two equaly powerful deities? Interesting.
 
I'm a Greedy Atheist. I'll believe in whichever God makes the best monetary offer. So far, no takers, therefore, no belief.
 
I go partly for my wife, partly for the social and community aspects, and partly for the sermons, believe it or not. Some of them, depending on the time of year, are vaguely "Yay God", but even those draw on such different and varied sources than my DoC childhood, that it's almost more a philosophy & world religions symposium than a religious ceremony.

Just because I'm basically a soft atheist doesn't mean I can't be interested in various religious teachings.
SkepticJ said:
So a Unitarian can't believe in two equaly powerful deities? Interesting.
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No, there's nothing that says what a member of the UU may or may not believe. You could believe in a three-god pantheon of Larry, Moe, and Curley and still be a UU.

I'm guessing the drkitten's mathematician friend was being funny. That's about in-line with mathematician humor I've heard in the past. ;)
 
Upchurch said:
No, there's nothing that says what a member of the UU may or may not believe. You could believe in a three-god pantheon of Larry, Moe, and Curley and still be a UU.
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I could be my own "god". How does one worship theirself?;)
 
I "worship" myself far too often. I think I am going blind.
What this hair on my hand?
 
Upchurch said:
How about a Unitarian Atheist: someone who doesn't believe in god but likes talking with people on Sundays about religion over coffee and a donut.
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Playing church is not a Unitarian peculiarity. I've even known Jews who do that. :p :D
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
I'm a Greedy Atheist. I'll believe in whichever God makes the best monetary offer. So far, no takers, therefore, no belief.
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If it's money you like, start your own cult. :p :D
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
I'm a Greedy Atheist. I'll believe in whichever God makes the best monetary offer. So far, no takers, therefore, no belief.
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I think Mercenary Athiest would be more appropriate here.
 
Here is something I have always wondered... I have never been able to claim atheism or agnosticism in their strict forms. Maybe you all can shoe-horn me into something here, because I hate having to launch into a 20 minute explanation of my beliefs...

1) I do not *believe* that objective physical reality has any God that interferes with it. It may or may not.

Soft Athiest here....

2) I know for a fact that I do not know whether God exists, and I know for a fact that I cannot know.

Militant Agnostic....

3) However, I believe that people's belief in a God with certain properites guides their decisions, and thus makes s/he/it real. Once we have a concept for it and name it, and let it guide us, we give it power. Sort of like morals, justice, and freedom. None of these things exist a priori, but because we have a concept of them, they exist and influence us all. Although God may not have an ultimate existance, our belief in him has verifiable empirical results, mainly in the form of abortion clinics turned to rubble, planes flown into buildings, and the cumulative murder of millions.

I don't know what you call this... Societal Theism?

4) I also believe that our concept of God is nothing more than our attempt to fit anthropomorphic properties onto the Universe. I believe that there is no way to know whether the Universe has these properties, although there is certainly no reason to think so.

I guess agnostic here... but with a materialist athiest slant...

Maybe I just think about this too much. :con2:
 
Abdul Alhazred said:
If it's money you like, start your own cult. :p :D
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Ah. I should amend that, then. Make my bid "Lazy Greedy Atheist." :D

Originally posted by Gestahl
I think Mercenary Athiest would be more appropriate here.
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Fine, "Lazy Mercenary Atheist," then. :D
 
Upchurch said:
How about a Unitarian Atheist: someone who doesn't believe in god but likes talking with people on Sundays about religion over coffee and a donut.
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Thats me! I just love donuts.
 
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