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Promises from Iran

Peter May

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President Hassan Rouhani.

“We will keep our promises within the framework of our national interest” *

*Please note, the above is a quotation, not a synopsis.

So, how does this equate with Iran's desperate need to develop a deployable nuclear weapon, and Kerry's attempts to keep the talks alive?
The only member who has really spoken out is Phillip Hammond who warns that.
“Failure to achieve a deal over Iran's uranium enrichment programme could trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East”.

Would it surprise anyone if Israel attacks Iran in the coming weeks, or months?
 
Peter May said:
President Hassan Rouhani.

“We will keep our promises within the framework of our national interest” *
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I think Clausewitz would have approved of that quote. (And whether it would have been problematic would have depended on whether Clausewitz considered that erasing any of his neighbors from the pages of history was in the national interest).
 
Peter May said:
President Hassan Rouhani.

“We will keep our promises within the framework of our national interest” *

*Please note, the above is a quotation, not a synopsis........
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Really? Or a quote of a translation? I'm not sure I've ever heard Rohani speak English. The distinction isn't just incidental.
 
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Peter May said:
President Hassan Rouhani.

“We will keep our promises within the framework of our national interest” *

*Please note, the above is a quotation, not a synopsis.

So, how does this equate with Iran's desperate need to develop a deployable nuclear weapon, and Kerry's attempts to keep the talks alive?
The only member who has really spoken out is Phillip Hammond who warns that.
“Failure to achieve a deal over Iran's uranium enrichment programme could trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East”.

Would it surprise anyone if Israel attacks Iran in the coming weeks, or months?
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It is pretty much the same for every country. IIRC even the US can and would go out of international treaty if it is in their national interest.

heck this is what happened with the ABMT treaty.

Nobody would have believed them if they had said "we will never ever stop that treaty no matter our national interrest". Because no country of the word would do that.

As for attack on Israel, i doubt it. Iran is not dumb. They know very well that Israel has nuclear weapon. Indirect support of local groups like many country do is far more probable, ahs been done in the past and will continue.
 
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Roger Ramjets said:
Why should I? You provided the alleged "quotation", so it's up to you to show us where you got it from. But since you dodged my request, I assume that you don't actually have a source and just made it up.
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I don't give a xxxx what you think, am I perfectly clear!.
What you say is false, prove I am wrong!
The only way you can do that is to contact the BBC 24 hours News channel and confirm what I
say is true.
Waiting for your apology......
 
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Peter May said:
Yes, it's BBC translation, I have have never known them to lie.
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So, it's not a quote, it's a translation. The nuances of which could easily include variations such as "We will keep our promises within the framework, in our national interest" for instance. You must have seen countless translations where the subtleties are entirely lost despite every word being translated properly. I certainly have.

If you could find verification of this quote from, say, an Iranian news agency, then that might lend it some credence, but until then I would suggest caution before predicting the start of WW3.
 
Peter May said:
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I don't give a xxxx what you think, am I perfectly clear!.
What you say is false, prove I am wrong!
The only way you can do that is to contact the BBC 24 hours News channel and confirm what I
say is true.
Waiting for your apology......
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Or you could you know simply provide some evidence for the accuracy of your quote. Which by the way I have done and it took me less time to do so then actually writing this post...
 
Peter May said:
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I don't give a xxxx what you think, am I perfectly clear!.
What you say is false, prove I am wrong!
The only way you can do that is to contact the BBC 24 hours News channel and confirm what I
say is true.
Waiting for your apology.....
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You've been around here long enough to know where the onus lies. The burden is with you. If you quote someone, or an article, you provide links or references. "Google it yourself" usually means end-of-thread.
 
MikeG said:
No-one has accused you of lying. You have simply been asked to back up your claim with a source. Hours later, you've at least managed that.
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What has time to do with the truth?
Do you think that truth is a function of time?
 
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Peter May said:
So, how does this equate with Iran's desperate need to develop a deployable nuclear weapon,
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They don't have a 'desperate need' so there is nothing to equate.

and Kerry's attempts to keep the talks alive?
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The 'attempt' seems to have worked...

“Failure to achieve a deal over Iran's uranium enrichment programme could trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East”.
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A deal has been achieved, so speculation about what might happen without it is irrelevant.

Would it surprise anyone if Israel attacks Iran in the coming weeks, or months?
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Yes. At this point it would be a particularly stupid move.
 
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