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[firecoins]

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?

tell me more about these invisible bombs placed in the largest office towers in the world without anyone including the very firefighters who you claim "think" there were bombs in the building.

 

[MarkyX]

I do see a problem with semantics. But in context, those folks apparently weren't called to testify before the 9/11 Commission. Yeah I know he is deceased, however, the gentlemen he spoke those words to is not.

It doesn't automatically mean he questions 9/11 and it might not be his final impressions. Again, this is a quote out of context and quite literally twisting a dead man's words. I noticed you completely ignored my argument about how they try to blend in people of different theories and spin them as if they are part of one big movement.

 

[Swing Dangler]

You can't be serious.

Do you have any emprical evidence that the Death Star didn't destroy the WTC from space?

Sure. It is called testing for the chemical residue and signatures of explosives.

I do have empirical evidence that a Death Star didn't destroy the WTC from space. It was the erroneous order given to our nation's Xwing fighter squadrons to attack the non-existent planet destroying behemoth. The leader of Red Squadron, Red-5, according to transcripts, did not see the DS on his approaching attack run nor did it run into the potential for the invisible entity in space.

Could you please tell me who the other firefighters are that believed there were bombs in the WTC?

Other firefighters:

"There's a bomb in the building - start clearing out"..."We got a secondary device in the building"

"Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. One of the secondary devices he thinks that took place after the initial impact he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device - he thinks, he speculates - was probably planted in the building. ... But the bottom line is that he, Albert Turi, said that he probably lost a great many men in those secondary explosions, and he said that there were literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people in those towers when the explosions took place."


"Luckily, we weren't caught between floors and were able to pry open the doors. People were going crazy, yelling and screaming. And all the time, I am crawling low and making my way in the dark with a flashlight to the staircase and thinking Tommy is right behind me. "I somehow got into the stairwell and there were more people there. When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it's hard to tell, but I'm thinking, 'Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!'

"I said, ‘Chief, they're evacuating the other building; right?’ He said, ‘No.’ . . . I said, ‘Why not? They blew up the other one.’ I thought they blew it up with a bomb. I said, ‘If they blew up the one, you know they're gonna blow up the other one.’ He said, ‘No, they're not.’ I said, ‘Well, you gotta tell them to evacuate it, because it's gonna fall down and you gotta get the guys out.’ He said, ‘I'm just the Battalion Chief. I can't order that.’ . . . I said, ‘You got a ****ing radio and you got a ****ing mouth. Use the ****ing things. Empty this ****ing building.’ Again he said, ‘I'm just a Battalion Chief. I can't do that.’ . . . Eventually this other chief came back and said, ‘They are evacuating this tower.’ . . . And sometime after that . . . I watched the north tower fall." [William Reynolds - Firefighter]

Oh well, it is too bad these brave heroes don't know the difference between bombs going off and pop cans exploding.

Your understanding of how historical records are used to interpret history is woefully lacking. Perhaps you should contact a history professor at your local university and have him or her explain it to you.

ROFLMAO. Ok so an author can take a historical record to interpret history, but a conspiracy site cannot. Ok, hypocrisies noted.

 

[Checkmite]

No depravity they pull surprises me anymore.

 

[CHF]

Yet the only FDNY twoofer is that guy Dylan interviewed whose "memory is shot."

 

[kookbreaker]

Sure. It is called testing for the chemical residue and signatures of explosives.

Laughable.

 

[Firestone]

...
Other firefighters:

"There's a bomb in the building - start clearing out"..."We got a secondary device in the building"

...

How exactly is a false bomb alarm in the Peter Stuyvesant Highschool evidence (or even a statement) about bombs exploding in the WTC???

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Swing, you seem to have a lot of hearsay and quotes made in the midst of a chaotic situation.

Got any papers that prove there were bombs in the buildings?

Let's start with the FIVE structural engineers at AE911: Haluk Akol, Mike Swenson (unconfirmed), Charles Pegelow (oil rigs), Dennis Kollar, and Rich Reed.

Show me their work.

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?

In other words, you can't answer CHF's request. How troublesome for the "movement."

 

[Swing Dangler]

It doesn't automatically mean he questions 9/11 and it might not be his final impressions. Again, this is a quote out of context and quite literally twisting a dead man's words. I noticed you completely ignored my argument about how they try to blend in people of different theories and spin them as if they are part of one big movement.

I didn't ignore it Marxy, I somewhat agreed with you. Until I read this from the website:

The public statements of many survivors contradict the Commission Report. And the words and actions of some of the victims on that terrible day are in conflict with the Commission Report. This section is a collection of their statements. This website is not an organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website.

His words of course contradict the Commission Report.
His words weren't twisted of course, they only reported upon what was stated by the good Father John Delendick via the World Trade Center Task Force Interview which can be read here: Task Force

Dodge noted, CHF. Welcome back, btw. Did you have some major insurance adjusting going on?

 

[AMTMAN]

It really shouldn't surprise anyone as to the lengths the CT movement will go to. Look at the patriotsquestion9/11 site under engineers. They have Frank DeMartini listed as a member. Even though he was killed when the north tower collapsed, six years ago today.

< http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html >

 

[Swing Dangler]

It really shouldn't surprise anyone as to the lengths the CT movement will go to. Look at the patriotsquestion9/11 site under engineers. They have Frank DeMartini listed as a member. Even though he was killed when the north tower collapsed, six years ago today.

< http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html >

And again here is the website portion you choose to ignore:

The public statements of many survivors contradict the Commission Report. And the words and actions of some of the victims on that terrible day are in conflict with the Commission Report. This section is a collection of their statements. This website is not an organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website.

 

[CHF]

Dodge noted, CHF.

I believe the dodge was yours, Swing.

Swing, you seem to have a lot of hearsay and quotes made in the midst of a chaotic situation.

Got any papers that prove there were bombs in the buildings?

Let's start with the FIVE structural engineers at AE911: Haluk Akol, Mike Swenson (unconfirmed), Charles Pegelow (oil rigs), Dennis Kollar, and Rich Reed.

Show me their work.

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?

You gave up your sad search for engineers when you found AE911. So show me what they've done.

 

[MarkyX]

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[kookbreaker]

And again here is the website portion you choose to ignore:

Where does that phrase appear on http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html ?

 

[anticonspiracy911]

Swing Dangler,

Do you even know what the hell you're arguing?

 

[A W Smith]

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?

Yes we do. The debris was sifted by teams of investigators on conveyors at fresh kills landfill After it was spread out at GZ itself in a search for human remains. They found no evidence of any explosive device. no blasting caps. no shape charge copper.nothing.

 

[AMTMAN]

And again here is the website portion you choose to ignore:

It is incredibly deceptive to put someones picture on a website such as that who is not an actual member because they are dead.

Speaking of ignoring things here's soemthing you choose to ignore.

< http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85833&page=11 >

What were you exact words on that thread?

The burden of proof is now upon the debunker's shoulders.

 

[nlarosa]

Oh well, it is too bad these brave heroes don't know the difference between bombs going off and pop cans exploding.

Lots of people and media thought bombs were going off that day. We were being attacked! No one knew anything but that the planes hit the towers and all hell was breaking loose. It was a f***ing crazy day that morning. I myself was asking if all this way real and thought in my mind that the towers were not going to fall and as soon as i thought that they came down! It became a war zone lots of confusion but you are to dumb to realize that i guess.

If Alex Jones really want to make a change why don't he run for office? What about Luke?

Why don't you truthers do something about it instead of opening your mouths that don't get you anywhere.

The leaders of the truth movement AJ, Jason, Avery, Rowe, and Luke wants to change the world, make history, put fear into everyone that the government is bad and they were the ones that committed 9/11 and "lets take back America" seems like something out of a nazi move.
Hiding behind legit charities and saying you are for the first responders but calling them lairs and they were "in on it" sounds like to me like WeAreChange infowars and prisonplanet are like terrorist organizations to me. They take things right out of the terroist play book to raise money. So you truthers to me are just like the terriorists blaming the US government, the people, media, NYPD and FDNY to being in on this plan to take over the world. What does that sound like? Like you are working for the terrorists, they think that the US wants to control the whole world and making it out to be this holy war. You are just the same as them. You use the same tatics to raise money and just your beliefs. You keep hurting the victims and other people by harassing them even after terrorists killed their loved ones. Are you truthers working for Osama? Seems like it to me.

 

[Swing Dangler]

Lots of people and media thought bombs were going off that day.

They weren't bombs, they were pop cans! I already told you that. Have you ever heard a pop can in a fire explode? It sounds just like a bomb and often get mistaken for devices used to bring buildings down.

If Alex Jones really want to make a change why don't he run for office? What about Luke?

They aren't NWO shills that is why.

Yes we do. The debris was sifted by teams of investigators on conveyors at fresh kills landfill After it was spread out at GZ itself in a search for human remains. They found no evidence of any explosive device. no blasting caps. no shape charge copper.nothing.

Can you source where they were looking for evidence of bombs and not human remains? Can you source where chemical residue tests were done to conclusively prove there were no bombs or explosive devices?
Also, can you show me some evidence of the massive number of pop cans that exploded causing people to think there bombs in the buildings? I mean surely there are vast amounts of exploded cans littered in the debris. There has to be some pics somewhere of these pesky critters. More accounts of exploding pop cans here: It was the pop cans stoopid!

 

[A W Smith]

Lots of people and media thought bombs were going off that day.

They weren't bombs, they were pop cans! I already told you that. Have you ever heard a pop can in a fire explode? It sounds just like a bomb and often get mistaken for devices used to bring buildings down.


They aren't NWO shills that is why.

Can you source where they were looking for evidence of bombs and not human remains? Can you source where chemical residue tests were done to conclusively prove there were no bombs or explosive devices?
Also, can you show me some evidence of the massive number of pop cans that exploded causing people to think there bombs in the buildings? I mean surely there are vast amounts of exploded cans littered in the debris. There has to be some pics somewhere of these pesky critters. More accounts of exploding pop cans here: It was the pop cans stoopid!

straw man, Produce empirical evidence of explosives. Or concede.