Press Secretary Spicer

[marplots]

If you accept the principle that words have meaning, it's an actual fact: we are now a fascist country.

Cool. One less thing for me to worry about then.

 

[Belz...]

Ok, would they be willing to return them to the native peoples they were stolen from.

Much of the land in Europe and around the world was stolen from someone at some point or another. Can we drop this line of argument, especially about stuff that happened centuries ago and perpetrated by long-dead people?

 

[3point14]

Much of the land in Europe and around the world was stolen from someone at some point or another. Can we drop this line of argument, especially about stuff that happened centuries ago and perpetrated by long-dead people?

What's the statute of limitations on stolen land? How long does one have to hang onto it before it's no longer stolen?

 

[Spindrift]

That's Jeff Jobe a local guy. He runs the city and county papers here. I guess I'll have to watch today. I wish there was more time I'd pop over to Horse Cave and remind him not to choke today.
Chris B.

Yeah, those softballs can be hard to spit out.

 

[Spindrift]

Much of the land in Europe and around the world was stolen from someone at some point or another. Can we drop this line of argument, especially about stuff that happened centuries ago and perpetrated by long-dead people?

What's the statute of limitations on stolen land? How long does one have to hang onto it before it's no longer stolen?

'Conquered' land is not considered stolen. At least by the winner. And the loser, well, they lost.

 

[3point14]

'Conquered' land is not considered stolen. At least by the winner. And the loser, well, they lost.

What's the difference between conquering and stealing? The practical difference? If I pitch a tent in your garden and annex some of it with a wall while you're out, what do I have to do for you to consider that conquering rather than theft?

Will I need a gun?

 

[Spindrift]

What's the difference between conquering and stealing? The practical difference? If I pitch a tent in your garden and annex some of it with a wall while you're out, what do I have to do for you to consider that conquering rather than theft?

Will I need a gun?

No, you need time. In the USA it's called imminent domain.

The difference between conquering and stealing is just point of view. I conquered your land, you stole my land.

 

[3point14]

No, you need time. In the USA it's called imminent domain.

How much time?

Which is the thrust of my initial question

 

[Spindrift]

How much time?

Which is the thrust of my initial question

Sorry, wrong term. I meant adverse possession.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/adverse-possession-trespassers-become-owners-46934.html

The amount of time varies, I think from 7 to 15 years, depending on locale.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Cool. One less thing for me to worry about then.

That was a common sentiment in the 1930s, too.

 

[marplots]

That was a common sentiment in the 1930s, too.

That's the comfort of knowing your history. If the analogy with Spicer and his crew holds up, you know it all works out for the best in the end.

 

[WilliamSeger]

That's the comfort of knowing your history. If the analogy with Spicer and his crew holds up, you know it all works out for the best in the end.

Many millions of people didn't get to see the end.

 

[The Don]

Many millions of people didn't get to see the end.

Yeah, but people killed in wars to protect democracy are losers dontcha know...

Winners, on the other hand, avoid the draft because of bone spurs

 

[marplots]

Many millions of people didn't get to see the end.

Greatest Generation. Don't discount the value of having the opportunity to be heroic.

 

[Belz...]

What's the statute of limitations on stolen land? How long does one have to hang onto it before it's no longer stolen?

Irrelevant. 300+ million people aren't going to give back the land to the people who never owned it anyway (because those who did are dead) and it's not like it was legal ownership in the first place.

Such reasoning goes nowhere but toward division. Move on.

But if you feel bad, you can always move out of the continent. Careful, though. Lots of land around the world was stolen. Might want to go to another planet, instead.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Yeah, but people killed in wars to protect democracy are losers dontcha know...

Winners, on the other hand, avoid the draft because of bone spurs

They avoid VD as well, it's their personal Vietnam.

 

[3point14]

Irrelevant. 300+ million people aren't going to give back the land to the people who never owned it anyway (because those who did are dead) and it's not like it was legal ownership in the first place.

Such reasoning goes nowhere but toward division. Move on.

But if you feel bad, you can always move out of the continent. Careful, though. Lots of land around the world was stolen. Might want to go to another planet, instead.

Oh, do relax. I just think it's an interesting question.

Frequently people here seem to think that they can discern my position solely form the questions I ask. I'd really much rather they asked me outright rather than guessing and assuming their guess is the truth.

 

[Belz...]

Oh, do relax.

I was perfectly calm typing that. Try reading it with a bemused tone instead. That's a problem with written communication.

I just think it's an interesting question.

General "you". I think it's an interesting question as well, though purely academic.

 

[3point14]

I was perfectly calm typing that. Try reading it with a bemused tone instead. That's a problem with written communication.



General "you". I think it's an interesting question as well, though purely academic.

Written communication can lack nuance, yes. And I am a tremendously grumpy bastard today. I shall take my own advice.