President Trump

[sunmaster14]

Does it take much effort to completely disregard reality and common sense, or does it come naturally?

For me, to be able to say the person who won the popular vote isn't more popular actually takes some effort - wrapping my head around saying an obvious lie doesn't come easy.

Do you honestly not understand that there are two different meanings for the word "popular?" Lots of English words have multiple meanings. Some even have two meanings which are antonyms. For example: dust and cleave.

 

[sunmaster14]

"For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump-choice/?xid=homepage

Well, that's one columnist who seems to have a lot of butthurt.

 

[NoahFence]

"For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump-choice/?xid=homepage

[sycophant spin] "For promising to #MAGA! by jailing #Crooked Hillary! [/sycophant spin]

 

[Andy_Ross]

Well, that's one columnist who seems to have a lot of butthurt.

That's the verdict of Time Magazine.

 

[Spindrift]

Do you honestly not understand that there are two different meanings for the word "popular?" Lots of English words have multiple meanings. Some even have two meanings which are antonyms. For example: dust and cleave.

Talk about a sore winner. Trump won the electoral vote, the vote that matters.

But that doesn't change the fact that Hillary won the popular vote. Millions more people wanted her to be president than wanted Trump to be president. If someone didn't vote that's too bad, they don't count. Voting is a positive act regardless of the reasoning behind the vote. You cannot vote against someone, you can only vote for someone or not vote at all. And over two million more voted for Hillary than voted for Donald.

I know under Trump facts are to be dismissed when they are unpleasant, but even that doesn't change the facts. If this is the way Trump supporters are going to be after a win, it's going to be entertaining when they lose.

 

[newyorkguy]

Does it take much effort to completely disregard reality and common sense, or does it come naturally?

There's a method to the madness. First, this thread about Trump has been derailed into an attack on Hillary. Second, lots of attention.

For me, to be able to say the person who won the popular vote isn't more popular actually takes some effort - wrapping my head around saying an obvious lie doesn't come easy.

George Orwell said it best.

"War is peace...freedom is slavery...ignorance is strength."

 

[Regnad Kcin]

I don't think you and I were watching the same elections.

'Course, it might have something to do with the fact that you are solidly anti-Hillary.

I read it as more pro dirtbag.

 

[alfaniner]

He's going to blow the entire country's collective mind and

choose Hillary for Secretary of State.

 

[Belz...]

No, but the term refers to a different meaning for the word popular than you assumed, i.e. "liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group."

Instead it refers to "intended for or suited to the taste, understanding, or means of the general public rather than specialists or intellectuals." Note the contrast with the electoral vote.

That is, it is closer to the usage of "popular" in the term "popular wisdom." Not the usage of "popular" as in "Raymond is popular because Everybody Loves Raymond."

That's some world-class wordplay right there. I have to congratulate you on that.

Do you not realise that both definitions converge in this case?

 

[Noztradamus]

"For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump-choice/?xid=homepage

Don't progressives usually view that as a good thing? Tide of history and all that. (there's this thing about tides)

 

[Belz...]

Don't progressives usually view that as a good thing? Tide of history and all that. (there's this thing about tides)

I think the problem is that the yesterday that Trump is demolishing was supposed to be our tomorrow.

 

[SezMe]

First, by law, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to do what's best for them, the shareholders.

I find that less than reassuring given how large corporations operate. Take the banks for instance. They sure have not been operating in such a manner.

Second, how would Trump retaliate? He would have to be careful not to overstep his legal bounds. If he did I'm sure the big corporations wouldn't hesitate to take legal action.

I have two comments. First, retaliation is not what he wants. He wants to prevent companies from shipping jobs overseas (at least that is what he says). So a suggestion here, a wink and a nod there can work wonders and break no laws. If he says he REALLY likes canned peaches from the ABC company, you can be ABC peaches will be on his salad plate. Works all the way up to the big stuff.

Second, among Trumps many, many faults is his inability to not overstep his bounds, be they legal or otherwise.

 

[SezMe]

For example, there was not much incentive for a Republican to vote in California. The Senate race was between two Democrats, and Trump had no hope of winning the state.

I've done the7th inning stretch any number of times but that just takes the cake for streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching.

How 'bout 'ol Hill winning every vote in Corncob, Iowa. Both of them. Doesn't that count?

 

[quadraginta]

"For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump-choice/?xid=homepage

Sounds about right.

 

[Stacko]

Trumpkins threaten union leader after the Orange Menace attacks him for fact checking his Carrier deal.

President-elect Donald Trump pledged to be "so presidential you will be bored" during the election, but he continues to keep Americans on their toes after again taking to Twitter to battle his most recent critic.

Chuck Jones, president of United Steelworkers 1999, told NBC News that he had been harassed and threatened in the wake of Trump's latest attack — a broadside against Jones leadership of union workers at a Carrier manufacturing plant in Indiana that took center stage last week.

Jones has not been shy about telling publications that Trump broke his promise to save jobs at the Carrier plant, a pledge on which the president-elect campaigned.

Trump recently proclaimed that he helped save about 1,1000 jobs at the plant that were slated to be moved to Mexico, which is untrue. Instead, the deal saves closer to 800 positions, according to Jones. Carrier's parent company gets $7 million in tax cuts and incentives over 10 years.

 

[Puppycow]

Trumpkins threaten union leader after the Orange Menace attacks him for fact checking his Carrier deal.

Putting the "bully" back in the bully pulpit.

He's like the president of a local chapter really. A few thousand members. A small fry. But he dared to correct Trump about how many jobs were being saved.

Aren't these people his base?

The same blue-collar working class white males whose jobs he is supposed to be saving from the Mexicans?

 

[Stacko]

Putting the "bully" back in the bully pulpit.

He's like the president of a local chapter really. A few thousand members. A small fry. But he dared to correct Trump about how many jobs were being saved.

Aren't these people his base?
The same blue-collar working class white males whose jobs he is supposed to be saving from the Mexicans?

Not for long.

If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in Indiana. Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues​

There's that classic Republican contempt for the union worker.

 

[Belz...]

I propose we don't call Trump "POTUS" when he takes office but "PGOTUS", for Pussy Grabber Of The United States.

 

[NoahFence]

I love the irony - Trump of all people telling someone to work more and talk less.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Donald Trump will remain EP on 'Celebrity Apprentice'

Donald Trump will remain as an executive producer on NBC's "Celebrity Apprentice," even while serving as president of the United States.

That agreement, first reported by Variety and confirmed by sources at NBC and the Trump campaign, means the president will have an interest in a show aired by a media company that also reports on his presidency -- a major conflict of interest for the network.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/media/trump-apprentice-ep/index.html