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Prediction - August 4th 2004
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Nyarlathotep
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From what I have seen, neither psi nor luck is involved. Your 'predictions' (or perceptions, or whatever you wish to call them) are so open to interpretation that they can't possibly fail.
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From what I have seen, neither psi nor luck is involved. Your 'predictions' (or perceptions, or whatever you wish to call them) are so open to interpretation that they can't possibly fail.
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Not so, some here have even accused me of cheating. Ranging from hcking to being a secret spy.
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Not so, some here have even accused me of cheating. Ranging from hcking to being a secret spy.
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I have never seen any such allegations. Please share.....
Lucianarchy said:
Not so, some here have even accused me of cheating. Ranging from hcking to being a secret spy.
I have never seen any such allegations. Please share.....
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No worries check out the 'ladybrook' example in my sig.
The 'explanations' range from hacking to using police scanners to being a terrorist.
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No worries check out the 'ladybrook' example in my sig.
The 'explanations' range from hacking to using police scanners to being a terrorist.
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Admittedly I only skimmed the umpteen bajillion pages of that thread, so I can't find any references to hacking or scanners, I do see that there was a lot of confusion about the time/date stamp on the post where the prediction was made, and given the conditions (the event happening so close to the posting), it seems a reasonable question to me. I also see a lot of people saying the same thinga bout that prediction as I have about your latest, that it is so vague as to be meaningless. I would say the same thing too, throwing out a name, ("ladybrook") with no details, and fishing for some significance afterwards doesn't mean a thing. Your predictions strike me much more as a case of making the facts fit afterwards, than foretelling the future.
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No worries check out the 'ladybrook' example in my sig.
The 'explanations' range from hacking to using police scanners to being a terrorist.
Admittedly I only skimmed the umpteen bajillion pages of that thread, so I can't find any references to hacking or scanners, I do see that there was a lot of confusion about the time/date stamp on the post where the prediction was made, and given the conditions (the event happening so close to the posting), it seems a reasonable question to me. I also see a lot of people saying the same thinga bout that prediction as I have about your latest, that it is so vague as to be meaningless. I would say the same thing too, throwing out a name, ("ladybrook") with no details, and fishing for some significance afterwards doesn't mean a thing. Your predictions strike me much more as a case of making the facts fit afterwards, than foretelling the future.
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They are extremely unlikely, granted. All I'm saying is that an RV explanation is even less likely.
But again, from the perspective of us mundanes, all three of these explanations are more likely than the explanation that you are getting signals from the future.Lucianarchy said:The 'explanations' range from hacking to using police scanners to being a terrorist.
They are extremely unlikely, granted. All I'm saying is that an RV explanation is even less likely.
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The thing is, Beleth, I know I am not a spy, hacker or terrorist.
Beleth said:
The thing is, Beleth, I know I am not a spy, hacker or terrorist.
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"A western target" and you consider an Iraqi police station to be valid?
And now you expect us to believe that you have "sensed" something somewhere, sometime.
Luci. Stop being such an idiot. Please.
You're not much of a remote viewer either.Lucianarchy said:
"A western target" and you consider an Iraqi police station to be valid?
And now you expect us to believe that you have "sensed" something somewhere, sometime.
Luci. Stop being such an idiot. Please.
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Lothian said:OK you win. You can collect it using telekinesis any time you want.
Checked your wallet recently?
I've just teleported it into my bank account. I wonder, will the bank charge me for this transaction, or merely think about charging me a transaction fee?
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Don't forget - on top of being a pathetic liar, a ridiculous example of a non-psychic, a troll, and a pseudo-sceptic, Luci here is also a pothead.
Let's see - read a bunch of papers about the state of the world, do a 'guided meditation' involving a hookah pipe and lots of incense, then make a vague prediction so vastly encompassing that you can't help but be right.
Luci, you're pathetic.
I predict something awful will happen on or about June 9, 2004 against a US associated target involving several injuries and at least one person named John, Ian, or possibly Jack.
I predict over the next two years there will be a significant astronomical event reported.
I predict in 2005 an actor will die.
I predict that sometime before the end of the decade there will be a major social change in the United States.
I predict that something significant will happen in a place called Springfield involving US citizens.
I predict that huge swarms of rarely-seen insects are about to cover my town within a few days.
There. Here's my predictions. They are all based on 'perception' and 'guided meditations' - but no weed. Let's see what my hit/miss ratio will be. I'm guessing they'll be pretty accurate - considering they're extremely vague and can be stretched to fit any interpretation I want to use.
Now, I challenge you, Luci, to come up with a specific perception - something undeniable, something definite.
Try this one: I predict that in the morning of September 12, 2004 in the city of Cincinnati, OH, USA, in the region of Clifton, a man wearing a brown jacket and a blue cap smoking a bent apple pipe with Admiral's Choice Vanilla Cavendish tobacco will meet a dark-haired woman wearing a blue sweater and carrying a copy of War and Peace. The two will exchance niceties, discuss the weather, and go their seperate ways, only to each be hit by the same drunk driver, whose name will be Eustace P. Juggs or something similar, driving a 1965 Chevy pickup truck in primer grey, rust, and turquoise, with a tattered bumper sticker that reads, "My son beat up your honor roll student."
If you can come up with a prediction even half this specific and get it right, I'll never say another word against you again. If the prediction I made comes true, I'll be in the hospital probably. Heck, if even only a third of my prediction comes true, I'll get a tattoo on my butt stating "Luci Is God"!
Gentleman's honor, I will.
So... how about that prediction, pothead?
Let's see - read a bunch of papers about the state of the world, do a 'guided meditation' involving a hookah pipe and lots of incense, then make a vague prediction so vastly encompassing that you can't help but be right.
Luci, you're pathetic.
I predict something awful will happen on or about June 9, 2004 against a US associated target involving several injuries and at least one person named John, Ian, or possibly Jack.
I predict over the next two years there will be a significant astronomical event reported.
I predict in 2005 an actor will die.
I predict that sometime before the end of the decade there will be a major social change in the United States.
I predict that something significant will happen in a place called Springfield involving US citizens.
I predict that huge swarms of rarely-seen insects are about to cover my town within a few days.
There. Here's my predictions. They are all based on 'perception' and 'guided meditations' - but no weed. Let's see what my hit/miss ratio will be. I'm guessing they'll be pretty accurate - considering they're extremely vague and can be stretched to fit any interpretation I want to use.
Now, I challenge you, Luci, to come up with a specific perception - something undeniable, something definite.
Try this one: I predict that in the morning of September 12, 2004 in the city of Cincinnati, OH, USA, in the region of Clifton, a man wearing a brown jacket and a blue cap smoking a bent apple pipe with Admiral's Choice Vanilla Cavendish tobacco will meet a dark-haired woman wearing a blue sweater and carrying a copy of War and Peace. The two will exchance niceties, discuss the weather, and go their seperate ways, only to each be hit by the same drunk driver, whose name will be Eustace P. Juggs or something similar, driving a 1965 Chevy pickup truck in primer grey, rust, and turquoise, with a tattered bumper sticker that reads, "My son beat up your honor roll student."
If you can come up with a prediction even half this specific and get it right, I'll never say another word against you again. If the prediction I made comes true, I'll be in the hospital probably. Heck, if even only a third of my prediction comes true, I'll get a tattoo on my butt stating "Luci Is God"!
Gentleman's honor, I will.
So... how about that prediction, pothead?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Prediction - August 4th 2004
Hi Luci.
If I say that I perceive that a suicide bombing will occur in Jerusalem in the next two months does this mean that we ( me and you that is) do the same thing in terms of predicting events?
Hi Luci.
Indeed but you choose to post them.Lucianarchy said:
Ok but I have a question. How can you possibly check if the perception is accurate if it is that vague. You know what I mean, if not I can clarify.
If you ask whether I keep a journal or not, the answer is not really since I do remember the day X that I read something about Middle East and I told myself:" Hmmmm if the info is accurate this means that we will have some unpleasant events".
If I say that I perceive that a suicide bombing will occur in Jerusalem in the next two months does this mean that we ( me and you that is) do the same thing in terms of predicting events?
I have, in my time, played quite a bit of bridge. This is a card game, played in opposing pairs in which one pair attempts to make a specified number of tricks with a nominated suit as trumps (or by specifying that there is no trump suit). The decision as to how many tricks and which trump suit is made by means of an auction in which successively higher bids are made.
Over the years, a set of bidding conventions have developed to better enable the correct combination of number of tricks and trump suit to be found. In some cases one finds oneself going through the motions of adhering to the conventions despite knowing where you need to get to in terms of the bidding.
I fear that Lucianarchy's threads come down to a skeptical convention. Despite the fact that his/her/its predictions are so clearly vague and bogus, we have do go through the effort of an attempted debunk if only to prevent Lucianarchy going to other boards and claiming our acquiescence as a victory.
In the same way that (depending on convention) 1NT promises 12-14 pts and a balanced hand or that a 2 clubs response is asking about a major suit perhaps we could develop a "conventional" response to Lucianarchy's nonsense ?
Perhaps we could have bids such as: 1 No Clue; 2 Stupid to Consider; 4 Goodness Sake Shutup ?
Over the years, a set of bidding conventions have developed to better enable the correct combination of number of tricks and trump suit to be found. In some cases one finds oneself going through the motions of adhering to the conventions despite knowing where you need to get to in terms of the bidding.
I fear that Lucianarchy's threads come down to a skeptical convention. Despite the fact that his/her/its predictions are so clearly vague and bogus, we have do go through the effort of an attempted debunk if only to prevent Lucianarchy going to other boards and claiming our acquiescence as a victory.
In the same way that (depending on convention) 1NT promises 12-14 pts and a balanced hand or that a 2 clubs response is asking about a major suit perhaps we could develop a "conventional" response to Lucianarchy's nonsense ?
Perhaps we could have bids such as: 1 No Clue; 2 Stupid to Consider; 4 Goodness Sake Shutup ?
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How do you run on a bulletin board?
Anything like this: http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37789?
What do you think, Claus?