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Research in string theory has lead to major advances across an entire area of mathematics, leading to multiple Fields medals (the equivalent of the Nobel prize but for math, and given only once every four years) including one to Edward Witten, a leading string theorist.

A stupid nitpick, but while Fields Medals are only given every four years, each time up to four people can receive one. For example, in the latest International Congress of Mathematicians, which took place in Madrid in 2006, Okounov, Perelman, Tao and Werner were awarded (Perelman declined).
 
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A stupid nitpick, but while Fields Medals are only given every four years, each time up to four people can receive one. For example, in the latest International Congress of Mathematicians, which took place in Madrid in 2006, Okounov, Perelman, Tao and Werner were awarded (Perelman declined).

Yes, you're correct - but then I have to point out that the Nobel can be given to up to three people each year. So if both were maxed out every year it would still be a factor of 3: 12-4 each 4 years.

We could easily check the actual ratio over the last 20 years (say physics nobels/Fields), but I'm in a hurry right now.
 
OK, so LHC is string theory. My particle physicist friends will be surprised to hear about that.

Have him read this from the official LHC website:

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/WhyLHC-en.html

Why the LHC

A few unanswered questions...

... snip ...

Newton's unfinished business...

What is mass?

... snip ...

An invisible problem...

What is 96% of the universe made of?

... snip ...

Nature's favouritism...

Why is there no more antimatter?

... snip ...

Secrets of the Big Bang

What was matter like within the first second of the Universe’s life?

... snip ...

Hidden worlds…

Do extra dimensions of space really exist?

Einstein showed that the three dimensions of space are related to time. Subsequent theories propose that further hidden dimensions of space may exist; for example, string theory implies that there are additional spatial dimensions yet to be observed. These may become detectable at very high energies, so data from all the detectors will be carefully analysed to look for signs of extra dimensions.
 
Oh you and your facts. Don't you know facts are what the experts tell you, not the other way around?
 
Oh you and your facts. Don't you know facts are what the experts tell you, not the other way around?

I suppose you also believe all the biologists whose grant applications say they're going to cure cancer by studying slime mold reproduction.

So lets see - BeACrackpot thinks the LHC "is string theory" because it says on their PR website that it can test some extra dimensional scenarios. Actually it doesn't even say that - it just says accelerator data should be analyzed for signs of extra dimensions. Does (s)he also think the LHC is dark matter because it might detect dark matter?

The LHC was built to detect the Higgs particle and whatever else might be around at the weak scale. Period, end of story. The fact that it might test string theory is nice, but how that implies that "the LHC is string theory" is an enigma understood only by a certain unique and special individual.
 
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So lets see - BeACrackpot thinks the LHC "is string theory" because it says on their PR website that it can test some extra dimensional scenarios. Actually it doesn't even say that - it just says accelerator data should be analyzed for signs of extra dimensions. Does (s)he also think the LHC is dark matter because it might detect dark matter?

The LHC was built to detect the Higgs particle and whatever else might be around at the weak scale. Period, end of story. The fact that it might test string theory is nice, but how that implies that "the LHC is string theory" is an enigma understood only by a certain unique and special individual.
Wonder what BAC would say about lab produced micro black holes...would he claim they are fake?
 
So lets see - BeACrackpot thinks the LHC "is string theory"

I always know I've won a debate when a self-proclaimed "professional" starts playing with my screen name in order to throw out childish adhominems. I also know when they start lying about what I've actually stated. I never said that the LHC "is string theory". I always said that one of the reasons given for building it was to test string theory. So you lose, sol.
 
I found this thread very interesting. I read or watched quite a few of the links including the link to an old JREF thread on this that I had read through previously but hadn't participated in.

The tie-in to Farnsworth was great. I had forgotten that he had been involved with this kind of research.

I also thought it was great that the project has been partially refunded. I had no idea about that.

I noticed that they achieved first plasma on WB-7 in January, but that they were no where near matching the performance of WB-6 yet.

Anyway thanks to metamars for starting this thread. I hope it can be a little more focused on IEC. It seems like digressing off into the possibility of using IEC for space flight is a premature. I don't think anybody is all that sure right now that IEC can be made practical for any purpose .
 
I also know when they start lying about what I've actually stated. I never said that the LHC "is string theory". I always said that one of the reasons given for building it was to test string theory. So you lose, sol.

It's one thing to compulsively lie about esoteric physics, but don't you know that you shouldn't lie about what you said or didn't say on a forum? It's just a little too easy to get caught:

So the LHC is string theory too? There's not much left of physics - you think all of astrophysics is wrong, now it's string theory and all of particle physics too?
It says so right on their website. One of the 5 reasons given for building the thing in the first place.
 
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So the LHC is string theory too? There's not much left of physics - you think all of astrophysics is wrong, now it's string theory and all of particle physics too?

It says so right on their website. One of the 5 reasons given for building the thing in the first place.

You're being deceptive, sol (which is close to lying). Here's my statement which preceded the response where you asked "So the LHC is string theory too?"

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And there are experiments being done to find evidence of strings. Look at the LHC at about 8 billion dollars. One of it's five stated goals is to look for evidence of strings.

How you got from that to asking me that question is instructive. I can see why you believe in dark matter and dark energy. :D

And if you wish think I was telling you that "LHC is string theory" rather than giving you the benefit of the doubt and thinking you just meant to say "LHC is investigating string theory", so be it. If that's the way you have to score points, it only proves what type of debater you really are, sol. :D
 
You're being deceptive, sol (which is close to lying). Here's my statement which preceded the response where you asked "So the LHC is string theory too?"



How you got from that to asking me that question is instructive. I can see why you believe in dark matter and dark energy. :D

And if you wish think I was telling you that "LHC is string theory" rather than giving you the benefit of the doubt and thinking you just meant to say "LHC is investigating string theory", so be it. If that's the way you have to score points, it only proves what type of debater you really are, sol. :D

Evidently my sarcasm is not getting through. Allow me to speak plainly.

Your understanding of the purpose of the LHC is wrong. No realistic physicist expects the LHC to produce results relevant to string theory. It was designed to look for other things. If it happens to stumble across something relevant to testing string theory, that would be a happy coincidence.

The public relations page, which is not written for scientists, mentions this possibility, because string theory is a popular topic in science journalism. This means non-scientists will have heard of it, and have some understanding that it's an interesting thing to try and test. The intended purpose of the LHC is not something that non-scientists will recognize. If people can recognize something in the "purpose" for the LHC, then it should be easier to obtain, and keep, funding. Since the LHC is very expensive, funding is very important.

String theory itself is a very new theory. It uses new and difficult-to-apply mathematical techniques. Because there is relatively limited interest in string theory among physicists, there have yet to be any practical experimental predictions of string theory. None-the-less, the mathematics of string theory have been successfully tested in condensed matter physics, such as in the paper which I linked to. This alone makes string theory worth investigating, as new ways of solving problems frequently give insight into the underlying physics.
 
No realistic physicist expects the LHC to produce results relevant to string theory.

Then the CERN website is lying to us? Because they specifically listed looking for evidence of strings as one of the 5 reasons WHY the LHC. And do you want to claim that in efforts to sell the LHC, string theory went unmentioned?

And isn't SuperSymmetry (SUSY) needed for string theory? Here's a paper not meant for the general public that describes a meeting that took place on String Theory among physicists (http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C010630/papers/P331.PDF ). It states that "a group of physicists interested in string theory, quantum gravity, and related issues met to discuss the questions: which future facilities would be most likely to provide information about the issues which currently confront string theory, and can string theorists make predictions for these facilities before they turn on. There was a strong concensus that the LHC program, followed by a linear collider, would provide crucial clues to our understanding of physics at extremely short distances." It states that "Much of the focus of the discussion was on supersymmetry. Low energy supersymmetry, almost all of the participants agreed, was the most likely outcome of string theory." And this paper, not written for the general public, also concerns SUSY and the LHC: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0707.0472.pdf . It states "The search for SUSY particles is one of the main motivations of the upcoming LHC at CERN". Are these all unrealistic physicists?

And here's a 2007 scientific article not written for the general public that describes an experiment that would use the LHC to test string theory and possible falsify it, or at least the current version of it: http://www.physorg.com/news88786651.html . Or don't you consider these physicists to be "realistic"?

The public relations page, which is not written for scientists, mentions this possibility, because string theory is a popular topic in science journalism.

I'm more concerned about what they told those in government when they originally sold the program. If they mentioned strings, given what you just said, then they lied to the funding agencies.

The intended purpose of the LHC is not something that non-scientists will recognize.

I think non-scientists are lot smarter than you credit. But they depend on being told the truth by scientists, the media and government. That's why it is harmful when scientists, the media and government agencies speak of "gas" when they really mean "plasma". It gives people the wrong idea. And when people find out they've been lied to, you can be sure the next time someone in science comes to them with hands open, they may not be as generous.

String theory itself is a very new theory.

Nonsense. It's been around since the 70's and 80's.

Because there is relatively limited interest in string theory among physicists, there have yet to be any practical experimental predictions of string theory.

First, given the number of conferences on strings, I have trouble believing there is relatively limited interest. Second, to claim that as the reason no practical experimental predictions have been made so far seems rather ridiculous.

None-the-less, the mathematics of string theory have been successfully tested in condensed matter physics, such as in the paper which I linked to. This alone makes string theory worth investigating, as new ways of solving problems frequently give insight into the underlying physics.

Perhaps. Or perhaps there are better ways to discover the tools that other branches of physics need ... like spending the money on those branches.
 
Your understanding of the purpose of the LHC is wrong. No realistic physicist expects the LHC to produce results relevant to string theory. It was designed to look for other things. If it happens to stumble across something relevant to testing string theory, that would be a happy coincidence.

That's exactly right, and wow - that's also exactly what they say on their website! It's very carefully written, actually. There's nothing at all about how "the LHC will test string theory". It just says people will look at the data for evidence of extra dimensions. Only a troll (not you, Dilb) would distort it like that.

Conventional string models predict that the direct signals of the extra dimensions will be far out of reach of LHC - in fact, far out of reach of any conceivable accelerator. The models people analyzing LHC data will have in mind are not string theory, they are phenomenological extra dimensional models like Arkhani-Hamed-Dimopoulos-Dvali and Randall-Sundrum (note the webpage says "for example" to cover that). Don't get me wrong, if extra dimensions exist it will be very strong evidence that string theory is correct, but it will also mean the conventional versions of it are wrong.

LHC PR said:
The LHC was built to help scientists to answer key unresolved questions in particle physics. The unprecedented energy it achieves may even reveal some unexpected results that no one has ever thought of!
...
Hidden worlds…
Do extra dimensions of space really exist?

Einstein showed that the three dimensions of space are related to time. Subsequent theories propose that further hidden dimensions of space may exist; for example, string theory implies that there are additional spatial dimensions yet to be observed. These may become detectable at very high energies, so data from all the detectors will be carefully analysed to look for signs of extra dimensions.
 
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Problem is that events from detectors are ALWAYS looked at to see if they show anything that might support current speculations.

That is what we were all about at Fermilab with the bubble chamber. Thousands and thousands of 70mm negatives were examined in the SAMM facility by trained graduate students who would mark anomalies and digitize tracks using what was the world's very first trackball. (hence the name)

And every experiment I worked on where there was a possibility that events would show exotic physics had somebody examining their data for that.

Sadly, things would be found and people would be too timid to publish based on single events; My thought was always "publish and get priority, and admit error gracefully if that is later found to be the case." Same was true of the guys doing Cosmic Ray physics; They would see things that much later turned out to be real, but nobody believed them because cosmic rays are just not a repeatable or calibrated source.
 
There's nothing at all about how "the LHC will test string theory". It just says people will look at the data for evidence of extra dimensions.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2000/PR05.00ESUSY2K.html "One prediction of supersymmetry is that for every observed particle (such as electrons or quarks) there will be a partner particle with different properties. The search for them is one of the top priorities at present experiments at CERN's LEP accelerator as well as future experiments at the LHC accelerator now under construction."

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2006/PR13.06E.html "Superpartners are particles that should theoretically exist. They are ‘supersymmetric partners’ to those particles we already know of at present. ... snip ... Their predicted existence underlies other theories, such as string theory".

So how can the LHC not "test" string theory, David?

The models people analyzing LHC data will have in mind are not string theory, they are phenomenological extra dimensional models like Arkhani-Hamed-Dimopoulos-Dvali and Randall-Sundrum (note the webpage says "for example" to cover that).

http://space.newscientist.com/artic...accelerator-could-rule-out-string-theory.html "New particle accelerator could rule out string theory, 01 February 2007 ... snip ... String theory could be ruled out by experiments at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), a particle accelerator scheduled to open by the end of 2007, a new study says. The finding offers a new approach for testing this potential "theory of everything", a goal that has so far proven elusive. ... snip ... In 2006, string theorist Allan Adams of MIT in Cambridge, US, and others offered a more promising check. They showed that some particle collisions could reveal whether certain fundamental assumptions underlying string theory are wrong. Now, another team has shown that the energies needed to reveal such effects are achievable at the LHC ... snip ... If string theory does seem to be ruled out, physicists will have to find another theory of everything that can explain the LHC observations. "If we see these violations, people will start working very feverishly on some sort of alternative that will produce these violations," Distler told New Scientist."

http://www.thetartan.org/2007/2/5/scitech/string "The paper, titled “Falsifying Models of New Physics via WW Scattering” and published in Physical Review Letters on January 22, was co-authored by Jacques Distler from the University of Texas at Austin, Benjamin Grinstein from the University of California, San Diego, and Rafael A. Porto and Ira Rothstein, a graduate student and physics professor at Carnegie Mellon, respectively. ... snip ... The paper outlines a method of using the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to measure the scattering of W-bosons. ... snip ... This paper is the first attempt to develop an experiment that may disprove string theory."

http://plus.maths.org/latestnews/jan-apr07/strings/index.html "12/02/2007 ... snip ... a team of physicists from Carnegie Mellon University, the University of California and the University of Texas did not look to the sky to test string theory, but went underground. ... snip ... LHC researchers will be able to observe for the first time how particles called W bosons scatter when high-energy collisions occur. The maths that underlies string theory predicts what this scattering should look like, so LHC will enable researchers to compare the predictions to reality. ... snip ... "If the test does not find what the theory predicts about W boson scattering," he added, "it would be evidence that one of string theory's key mathematical assumptions is violated. In other words, string theory — as articulated in its current form — would be proven impossible."

What was that Dilb was saying about "No realistic physicist expects the LHC to produce results relevant to string theory", sol? :D
 
Then the CERN website is lying to us? Because they specifically listed looking for evidence of strings as one of the 5 reasons WHY the LHC. And do you want to claim that in efforts to sell the LHC, string theory went unmentioned?

It's called marketing.

And isn't SuperSymmetry (SUSY) needed for string theory? Here's a paper not meant for the general public that describes a meeting that took place on String Theory among physicists (http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C010630/papers/P331.PDF ). It states that "a group of physicists interested in string theory, quantum gravity, and related issues met to discuss the questions: which future facilities would be most likely to provide information about the issues which currently confront string theory, and can string theorists make predictions for these facilities before they turn on. There was a strong concensus that the LHC program, followed by a linear collider, would provide crucial clues to our understanding of physics at extremely short distances." It states that "Much of the focus of the discussion was on supersymmetry. Low energy supersymmetry, almost all of the participants agreed, was the most likely outcome of string theory." And this paper, not written for the general public, also concerns SUSY and the LHC: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0707.0472.pdf . It states "The search for SUSY particles is one of the main motivations of the upcoming LHC at CERN". Are these all unrealistic physicists?

No, but they also aren't the physicists who designed, secured funding, and built the LHC. Also, they are not saying they have a prediction that they will test. Instead, they are saying that the additional knowledge from the LHC will be useful in building a usable version of string theory.

And here's a 2007 scientific article not written for the general public that describes an experiment that would use the LHC to test string theory and possible falsify it, or at least the current version of it: http://www.physorg.com/news88786651.html . Or don't you consider these physicists to be "realistic"?

Again, they are hoping to eventually run an experiment at the LHC which will help them build a working string theory.


I'm more concerned about what they told those in government when they originally sold the program. If they mentioned strings, given what you just said, then they lied to the funding agencies.

Again, it's called marketing. The funding agencies employ physicists, so rest assured, they thought the actual reason was good enough to give them funding.

I think non-scientists are lot smarter than you credit. But they depend on being told the truth by scientists, the media and government. That's why it is harmful when scientists, the media and government agencies speak of "gas" when they really mean "plasma". It gives people the wrong idea. And when people find out they've been lied to, you can be sure the next time someone in science comes to them with hands open, they may not be as generous.

I'm well aware that non-scientists can be smart. However, it's quite correct to say they are ignorant about science.


Nonsense. It's been around since the 70's and 80's.

Electricity has been researched since the 1600's. Electromagnetism was completely formulated only by the 1880's. It is still being actively researched. A theory which has only been around for two decades is incredibly young.

First, given the number of conferences on strings, I have trouble believing there is relatively limited interest. Second, to claim that as the reason no practical experimental predictions have been made so far seems rather ridiculous.

I really can't do anything about your lack of understanding here. Your guess at how many conferences should occur are wrong.

Perhaps. Or perhaps there are better ways to discover the tools that other branches of physics need ... like spending the money on those branches.

If we already knew which tools would work, it wouldn't be research.
 
But, as I pointed out in my last post, this is exactly the problem. The 7th and 5th power scalings are unjustified assumptions that Bussard made, and the vast majority of people in the field don't agree. And these are not the only assumptions he made. For example, the last reactor he made only operated in very short pulses, but Bussard assumed that the conditions were representative of the steady state, again with no evidence. Bussards calculations for energy losses from bremsstrahlung also disagree with calculations by others, and mean the difference between having a large energy gain or never being able to break even. Bussard also wanted to use Boron and protons as fuel. He was not alone in this, but shared the problem with all other reactors using this approach that none of them have actually tried using Boron, they all just extrapolate from experiments on other fuels.

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Once upon a time, I was wowed by the idea of IEC fusion. When I was an undergrad working in other fields, I picked up T.A. Heppenheimer's The Manmade Sun, a history of the fusion program. It contained 2-3 pages on the Farnsworth-Hirsch poissors/fusors and their eye-popping 10 billion neutrons per second; a separate section covered Bussard's Riggatron tokamak project and its seemingly premature death. I was fascinated by the idea of scientific underdogs with great ideas, and I devoured all of their papers and patents. That made me decide to pursue fusion (among other things) in grad school. The two strands of fusion ideas merged when Bussard picked up the old Farnsworth approach about the time I was starting my thesis research at MIT. I hoped to take their cumulative work and find ways to push it a few steps closer to realization. To bring myself up to speed, I first went back through all of Bussard's and everyone else's basic calculations about the approach. And I found massive errors everywhere--incorrect assumptions and/or incorrect calculations of a variety of effects. The rest is history... I assume you know about my M.S. '94 and Ph.D. '95 theses from MIT, as well as my various journal articles and conference presentations based on them. The M.S. thesis points out all the errors and fatal flaws in IEC, and the Ph.D. thesis generalizes the results to limitations on all IEC and all non-IEC fusion approaches.

In a nutshell, there are a large number of fatal flaws with IEC and related approaches, each flaw independent of the others and each far more than sufficient to keep IEC from ever producing net power. This isn't simply a "he said, they said" disagreement. These are all very well documented and established plasma physics effects, found in textbooks all the way back to the 1950s and able to be accurately predicted for lab experiments. Moreover, the physical basis of each problem can be explained even without the accompanying mathematical analyses. These problems include, but are not limited to:

(1) Bremsstrahlung radiation. Ions must be given very high energies (equivalent to very high temperatures) to stand a decent chance of fusing when they run into each other. Unfortunately, the ions are very generous and promptly give much of this energy to the electrons. Electrons have a very low mass and are easily pushed around whenever they run into an ion or even another electron. Every time an electron runs into something, it slams on its brakes and emits a loud squeal--a bremsstrahlung X-ray. Thus a great deal of the input energy gets turned into useless X-rays, not fusion reactions. This is true for all fusion approaches, not just IEC. Bremsstrahlung is a relatively insignificant problem for deuterium + tritium fuel, which fuses at comparatively low energies. It is a large but theoretically tolerable problem for deuterium + deuterium and deuterium + helium-3 reactions, which require higher energies. Even with the most optimistic assumptions, the bremsstrahlung power loss is much larger than the fusion output power for all other fuels, including helium-3 + helium-3, proton + boron-11, and proton + lithium-6. My theses and papers used the most accurate standard methods of calculating the ion-electron energy transfer and bremsstrahlung losses, including relativistic and other effects. Nonetheless, I was able to show that the ion-electron energy transfer or bremsstrahlung would have to be miraculously lowered by a huge factor, at least 10 to 100 times, in order for the X-ray losses to be tolerable. In all of the papers I have seen from IEC and related researchers, bremsstrahlung is ignored entirely, the ion-electron energy transfer is ignored, or one or the other is merely assumed to be artificially low without providing any physical justification.

(2) Ion-ion collisions. Ions are all positively charged and thus strongly repel each other at close range. Only every once in a while do they quantum-mechanically "tunnel" through that repulsive barrier and fuse together. Even at high energies, two colliding ions are 100-1000 times more likely to randomly scatter off each other than to fuse. IEC, colliding-beam fusion, and related concepts assume that the ions all keep the right velocity pointed in the right direction. Yet collisions will turn these organized beams into a bell curve distribution of velocities going in all directions 100-1000 times faster than the time that would be required for a significant number of the ions to fuse. IEC and related approaches generally provide no mechanism to "herd" the ions back to the desired velocities, but even if they did, my Ph.D thesis and papers showed that even the most efficient such mechanism would consume too much power. You are fighting entropy, and entropy will win. Just like death and taxes.

(3) Electron-electron collisions. A very similar process occurs for the electrons, converting any preferred electron distribution into a random bell curve distribution. Again, any attempt to fight this entropy generation would consume far too much energy, as shown in the theses and papers.

(4) Counter-streaming electrostatic instabilities. Particles in orderly colliding beams are determined to reach a three-dimensional bell curve distribution. In addition to individual collision events as described above, the whole population of particles can act collectively via electrostatic or electromagnetic fields to rebel. Such mass rebellions are called instabilities. Colliding beams and particles outside the central core of an IEC are subject to the well-documented counter-streaming instabilities, in which particles bunch and unbunch like a Slinky, rapidly destroying any initial order in the system.

(5) Weibel electromagnetic instabilities. These approaches are also subject to Weibel instabilities, in which ions and electrons wiggle side-to-side, again destroying any initial order in the system.

(6) Ion upscattering losses from IEC well. The basic idea of IEC is that all the ions have too little energy to escape from the electrostatic potential well in the center of the plasma. However, once collisions and/or instabilities have randomized the ion distribution, ions in the upper tail of the bell curve will have enough energy to escape. Once they do, other ions are randomly scattered to reform the tail of the bell curve, and then they escape too. These escaping ions represent a power loss greater than any fusion output power.

(7) Losses of ions hitting grids in gridded IEC (Farnsworth-Hirsch) devices. Most IEC devices have high-voltage grids inside the plasma to create the potential well. Even with very optimistic assumptions, the power lost by ions hitting these grids is far larger than the fusion output power.

(8) Losses of electrons hitting grids in gridded IEC (Farnsworth-Hirsch) devices. Likewise, even with very optimistic assumptions, the power lost by electrons hitting the grids is far larger than the fusion output power.

(9) Losses of electrons escaping from magnetic cusps in Polywell IEC devices. Instead of grids, Bussard's Polywell IEC approach uses a polyhedral cusp magnetic field to confine the electrons. Even with very optimistic assumptions, the power lost by electrons escaping at all the cusp points is much larger than the fusion power. As I showed in my theses, any foreseeable method of extracting part of the energy of the escaping electrons would either be vastly inadequate or would actually increase the ion losses instead.

(10) Arcing in direct electric converter and other high voltage grids. Most IEC devices have high-voltage grids, and additional high-voltage grids are frequently proposed to extract energy from escaping particles or fusion products in IEC, colliding-beam reactors, and related approaches. Marshall Rosenbluth, the widely acknowledged "dean" of plasma physics, has shown that at plasma densities typical of proposed full-fledged fusion reactors, arcing between these grids due to all the charged ions and electrons would be intolerable (Plasma Physics and Controlled Fusion, vol. 36, pp. 1255-1268, 1994).

These effects may appear relatively small in the sort of low-density, short-pulse IEC or colliding beam experiments that have typically been used to date. Yet the standard formulas of plasma physics, strongly supported by over 60 years of theoretical and experimental results in this field, indicate that every one of these effects will be intolerably large in a full-fledged reactor-scale device. In order for IEC or related approaches to produce net fusion power, they must defy not just one of these standard predictions but *all* of them. And they must be not just a little better than predicted, but for several of these effects they must be a factor of ~100 better than predicted by the basic physical laws. To date, I have not seen any papers from Bussard, Rostoker, Kulcinski, or others that seriously address any of these problems, let alone propose feasible ways to avoid the problems.

In my opinion, there are several conclusions to be drawn from all of this:

(A) Due to problem (1) above, the *only* fusion reactions which can theoretically produce net power in *any* foreseeable fusion reactor, whether conventional or unconventional, are deuterium + tritium (easiest but quite radioactive), deuterium + deuterium (also radioactive), and deuterium + helium-3 (cleaner but still radioactive).

(B) Due to problems (2) through (10) above, the chances of IEC and related approaches producing net power even with those reactions are minute. (Deuterium + tritium may at best be marginal in some non-IEC beam-like systems, but its radioactivity makes it less appealing than the other reactions, and in any event more conventional fusion approaches like tokamaks stand a much better chance of burning it.) No matter how large or how small an investment the IEC researchers may be requesting, potential sponsors should be aware that their gamble is virtually guaranteed not to pay off, due to all of these fundamental physics problems that can be easily seen in advance.

(C) Despite these problems, IEC or similar approaches could be useful for applications *other* than power production. An IEC device is basically a very compact particle accelerator and could be useful for the same applications as larger accelerators, including radioisotope production and production of radiation, especially neutrons.

(D) Several non-IEC, non-colliding beam approaches are not as subject to problems (2) through (10) above and thus are theoretically able to produce net power with deuterium + helium-3. In fact, Bussard, Rostoker, and Kulcinski have worked on many of these approaches, including field-reversed configurations and tokamaks. The engineering challenges for these reactors are admittedly very difficult and may even ultimately be insurmountable, but that cannot be proven from the outset, so such approaches are certainly very worthy of further work.

(E) I believe fusion research is more limited by the lack of good ideas than by the amount of funding available to build larger and larger machines. Perhaps someone could think of a confinement system that would be better than tokamaks and other current approaches that are theoretically feasible but problematic from an engineering standpoint. Or better yet, perhaps someone could find an efficient method to catalyze fusion reactions, so that a given input energy would yield significantly more fusion output. (Spin-polarized and muon-catalyzed fusion were two clever but ultimately inadequate attempts to do just that.)

To summarize, I would love to see a working, power-generating fusion reactor, especially one that would be less radioactive than the deuterium-tritium reactors that are normally proposed. There are many technological and physical challenges that must be overcome in order to do that, and to overcome them one must openly acknowledge those challenges and then find clever ways around them. Unfortunately, the inertial-electrostatic confinement and colliding-beam fusion researchers have not even attempted to do that. They may choose to ignore the basic laws of physics in designing and building their prototype fusion devices, but when the switch is turned on, I doubt that the laws of physics will return the favor by ignoring them.

If you would like independent confirmation of the physics principles I have outlined, please feel free to contact Peter Catto at the MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center ([email protected], 617-253-5825) or Bill Nevins at Lawrence Livermore National Lab ([email protected], 925-422-7032). They are both familiar with the IEC approach and my analyses.

I am attaching five .pdf files of several of my journal articles and conference presentations on this topic. Please let me know if you have any problems opening these files or if you have any other questions.
 

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