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Possible to promote A without possessing A?

Is it possible to promote A without possessing A?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 100.0%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    33
Consider the woo's out there who strongly believe that they can do what they are not doing. How would it be any different if you were to merely exchange a woo belief for an anti-woo belief?

Like I say...pretty thick :D


But no, I don't debate your point. What I was addressing is what would motivate someone to promote something but at the same time deliberately reject it, as in the overweight doctor example. It's hard to think of an example that fits critical thinking.
 
sometimes you might have someone trying to promote something but due to lack of certain qualities results in the opposite effect. For instance a real bozo might promote critical thinking and do a poor job of it causing people to think "if that is critical thinking then I want nothing to do with it."
 
But no, I don't debate your point. What I was addressing is what would motivate someone to promote something but at the same time deliberately reject it, as in the overweight doctor example. It's hard to think of an example that fits critical thinking.

Skill, and boredom at working through "classroom exercises," for one possibility.

I know of, for example, a few superlative mathematicians who are much better at teaching proofs then they are at actually producing or publishing them. When doing their own (research) mathematics, they rely very heavily on their own intuitions and guesses about what conjectures are likely to be fruitful and interesting. They are essentially lean, mean, conjecture-making machines. On the other hand, they often can't prove their conjectures.

They make great collaborators. They'll come wandering into your office, saying "wouldn't it be interesting if [insert technobabble]?", without the faintest notion of how to prove it -- but then will happily co-write a paper with you once you figure out how to prove this interesting conjecture that you yourself wouldn't have been able to come up with. (For an example of this that you may have heard of, consider Len Adelman's contribution to the RSA algorithm. He was the cryptanalyst of the trio, and spent his days breaking the cyphers that R(ivest) and S(hamir) invented each night. When RS finally came up with one that A couldn't easily break, they published -- and thereby won the Turing Award.)

I've seen similar feats in medical diagnosis, where truly expert skill and intuition can replace "critical thinking."

Of course, one of the things that makes these people stand out is that they tend to be geniuses of the first water. And they're often capable -- if rusty -- of doing "critical thinking," but they've taken their work to a high enough level that critical thinking is of less importance to what they do personally than it is to the field as a whole.

No reputable doctor would tell you to diagnose on the basis of intuition. But no competent, experienced doctor would ignore her intuition, either.
 
I hate to introduce the term to the thread because it is so overused and carries so much baggage, but wouldn't such a person be appropriately labeled a pseudoskeptic?

eta: this is in reply to tkingdoll's post, not the ones just above. Sorry.
 
I hate to introduce the term to the thread because it is so overused and carries so much baggage, but wouldn't such a person be appropriately labeled a pseudoskeptic?

eta: this is in reply to tkingdoll's post, not the ones just above. Sorry.

I suppose so, although with pseudo-anything, it doesn't necessarily denote intent. Can you give me an example of a pseudoskeptic, just so we're clear about who the definition would apply to?

I guess pseudoskepticism could be applied by a dishonest person to give the appearance of having thoroughly investigated something when they have, say, a financial agenda. A lot of woos I know have fallen for scams or conspiracy theories because of a basic appeal to authority. That doesn't seem quite as dramatic as the original hypothesis of someone who promotes critical thinking whilst at the same time not employing it, though.
 

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