Pope concerned about "psuedo-mystics"

[joobz]

From a power point of view, he had to cut down on it.
I mean, why is god/mary/jesus appearing to everyone BUT the pope?

 

[cj.23]

From a power point of view, he had to cut down on it.
I mean, why is god/mary/jesus appearing to everyone BUT the pope?

Ah well maybe he is the Antipope?
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cj x

 

[Lord Emsworth]

"...psychiatrists, either atheists or Catholics.." Are all non-Catholics atheists? Or are they really saying that non-Catholic believers are excluded?

In Italy I think it holds true that either you're a Catholic or an atheist (if understood as unbelivers in a wider sense). To a very high degree at at least. Not sure if that explains it though.

 

[jimtron]

cj23 said:

I am a fan of institutionalized religion, as opposed to personal revelation based stuff and cults.

What's the advantage of institutionalized beliefs vs personal ones? To me they're both dubious, but with an institution there's a lot more politics, and you don't know whether church members are sincere or only in it for the money and power. If personal, at least there's less politics and filters and stuff. Also, with personal religious belief, I think that folks are more likely to keep it to themselves.

 

[biomorph]

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I mean, why is god/mary/jesus appearing to everyone BUT the pope?

Well, if he sez you can't go public with it, and if you do it's probably false, then keeping your mouth shut means you're getting the real deal.

Therefore he must get the visions, but has kept mum.

Hang on that makes no sense either, which makes sense.

Somehow......

 

[Beerina]

cj23 said:

What's the advantage of institutionalized beliefs vs personal ones? To me they're both dubious, but with an institution there's a lot more politics, and you don't know whether church members are sincere or only in it for the money and power. If personal, at least there's less politics and filters and stuff. Also, with personal religious belief, I think that folks are more likely to keep it to themselves.

It's memespace evolution. Child memes, tired of being stomped out, adopted a "you can do it yourself" attitude. This allowed it to spread more rapidly and avoid stompage, rationale for stompage being a key component of the institutionalized memes.

This "mutation" worked.

 

[shawmutt]

pseudo-mystics as opposed to...

 

[hgc]

All you need to know about pseudo-mysticism can be found by example in Padre Pio and Josemaría Escrivá, both cananoized by the RC church in recent years -- in Pope JP 2's munificent saint factory.