POPCORN! Gravy is on...! :D

Oh man talk about delusional, Bermas and Avery seem to have interpreted the fact that a police officer who threatened to report them to the police (for harassment I'm assuming) if they ever tried to contact him again as proof he has been told (in no uncertain terms by the US Gov.) not to talk about 9/11 as part of the cover up...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4070898042073434589#0h27m09s

Regarding Part B, I'm glad Mark didn't let Bermas change the subject regarding the cause of the collapse that was established during the NIST investigation. Bermas tried several times to try and move the discussion on to molten metal at GZ and WTC 7 etc.

Conspiracy theorists do this so many times and it's so infuriating, as soon as they feel trapped in a lie they try and spout off several other lies in an attempt to overwhelm the person(s) they are debating with, classic "Kent Hovind" technique.
 
chacal said:
Here are the key points. I wrote them from memory so they might not be entirely accurate, sorry.
Bermas: I'm an ugly dude.
Avery: Shut up Jason you'll embarras us all.
Roberts: You are misrepresenting, have even you talked to anyone that could corroborate that statement?
Bermas: Umm. no I saw myself on YouTube.
Roberts: So basicly you are just stating your opinion as fact.
Bermas: No, I know there are many people that agree with me but are too afraid to speak.
Host: Well we must get back to the topic. I have just been in contact with all the worlds experts on everything that relates to anything and they disagree with you. (pointing to Bermas and Avery)
Bermas: Yes but I disagree with the experts.
Avery: Nothing will change my mind. Bermas is an ugly dude.
Roberts: You know, some people call me Binglybert Slaptyback, it doesn't make it true.
Bermas: I disagree
Roberts: Here's proof that I'm indeed not named Binglybert. (shows documents to camera)
Bermas: Yeah but, like... I believe there's no way the planes and fires could have resulted in the pools of molten metal in the ruble.
Roberts: Thats a totally different subject, You need to go read the commission report and NIST, all the 100 000 000 pages like me.
Bermas: I will when it gets on YouTube, and whats the point? I would only disagree with them cos' I disagree.
Host: Also read the Popular Mechanics debunking book. (shows it to camera) Buy it now and you get a free copy of Loose Change.
Everybody laughs and hugs and depart as frends.
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Great stuff, chacal. :D

Every time I see your forum name I think of Day Of The Jackal (Charles Calthrop).
 
TobiasTheCommie said:
Downlaod for Windows/Mac does it for me.
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I don´t find that option using Firefox. But MP4 is neat, too.
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Pardalis said:
A person with no hands? Please show me a precedent where a person didn't have any hands.
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Sir,

I'll find some on YouTube. I will change the way you think about persons and their hands... for ever.
 
Great job Gravy, and Ron! It is fun to watch them be slaughtered close-up.
"I don't agree with you", that's all Bermass had? Avery looks like a deer in headlights. The Cters show they see everything, through some stange colored glasses. They think they won this, LMFAO, classic denial!

Happy Holidays,

DT
 
Spins said:
Nigerian air crash kills all 117 on board



Me109 discovered in France buried 6 meters underground

Recovery of three Italian G.55 Centauro shot down by USAAF P-47s

Time Team dig on the Wierre-Effroy Spitfire
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Just to add one more example to those given already (as if they weren't enough): If a WW2 aircraft (such as those above, or the Hurricane in the link I give below) with substantially less mass and somewhat less speed can bury its engine block and bulkhead twelve feet down in hard, urban ground, I don't see why it's difficult for you to believe that Flight 93 went 25ft down into soft ground, with its throttles still open.

Gravy punted those loosers into the middle distance; fantastic job. As for you Whizz-hard and Hi-onsnot; you've been "pwned" as well. Get lost.
 
Once again great job Mark. There really is no way to change theirs minds though. Every single expert disagrees with them. What is their response to the overwhelming evidence? "Well I don't believe that." I know you are not out to change their minds, you do a great job at proving them wrong every time. I love the point you made about how none of the CTs actually know what the NIST report says. I also thought that it was a very good point that you made about what Bermas believes the FDNY involvment was. How he says that they weren't in on the CT, but yet they know about it because they are being threatened to keep quiet. I think that next time you talk with him you should really push that point more. Anyways great job!
 
Quad4_72 said:
Once again great job Mark. There really is no way to change theirs minds though. Every single expert disagrees with them. What is their response to the overwhelming evidence? "Well I don't believe that." I know you are not out to change their minds, you do a great job at proving them wrong every time. I love the point you made about how none of the CTs actually know what the NIST report says. I also thought that it was a very good point that you made about what Bermas believes the FDNY involvment was. How he says that they weren't in on the CT, but yet they know about it because they are being threatened to keep quiet. I think that next time you talk with him you should really push that point more. Anyways great job!
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I am guessing Mark did this show, like he does GZ, mainly to provide those who do not know what to believe, with the REAL, COMPLETE picture of 9/11, not just the speculative paranoid opinions the truthers spue. Like me, I think Marks realizes the key to all of this is to show the "fencesitters" where the hard evidence lies, and where the paranoia lies, and never the two shall meet.

IMO

TAM:)
 
The 'Hardfire' version will be on Google by Wednesday. DVDs of the two shows will be available soon after.
 
Mark you and Ron did great! Those LC bums are nothing but naive, punk amatures, without a fact to stand on and this was pathetically OBVIOUS.

Sadly, there wasn't enough time. In a longer debate the gap would have been even more obvious. Withn a couple of hours to go deep into all the issues you would have reduced the little boys to tears.

Avery looked terribly intimidated. He's just a scared little kid. Bermas talks a lot but he's all bravado and no substance. It was clear you guys were having mercy on the boys. Too much mercy, IMO.

Thank you so much for putting so much work into this and representing the sane position in such fine fashion!
 
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