I live a good portion of the time in a muslim area, on the border of where ISIS just had a war with the Philippine government. We were there with helicopter gunships and bombers flying overhead, they leveled the city next door to us, just a pile of rubble now.
I know how these people think, I talk to them at length about this very thing. They look at American culture and call our 13 year old girls whores. They parade around with their near-naked bodies on display - sexualized tots, sexualized adolescents, sexualized teens, they actually cite accurate statistics like 6% of US 13 year olds already having intercourse. FAR more are having some kind of sex and half of them by age 18 have had intercourse - almost zero of them married.
Unmarried teen pregnancy, single mom worship, men having sex with men, women with women, sex change operations - to them it is ghastly soddom and gommorah promiscuity at VERY young ages so how ironic to paint them as the sex perverts.
You point out muslim girls having sex that are MARRIED. Having children and raising families at 13, as if that was horrible? Are you out of your mind? Billions of people are cool with this, and logically so.
There is no welfare state in those cultures generally but let me be specific about the muslims where I live. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is highly discouraged. A mortal affair.
A man must be assigned responsibility for children. Marriage is how you do it. It is not of concern whether he has one wife, two, whatever - as President Duterte (1/4 Moro) himself asserted while defending legal polygamy in the Philippines in a major speech... it is a matter of supporting the children.
You are not going to get permission under Shariah to take on another wife if don't have the resources. It is going to be just like me, as you get older and more established, are wiser and infiniately more lecherous, you get another FAR younger partner. And everyone is cool with it, everyone knows, both families, the exact rights and responsibilitites of every adult worked out face to face.
By age 18, half of American kids have already had intercourse. In the muslim world, the only way they had intercourse is if they were MARRIED. Who cares what age they are, it is proper. The improper sex is in the USA, not vice-versa. And that is what produces children without fathers to support them.
They wear the full burka, just the eye slits, in our neighborhood. A young muslim girl is escorted by an adult male from the family, and boy do they march her quickly, all business.
The purpose of protecting the women this way (you view it as imprisoning) is that a dowry is coming (bride price) from the man's family.
What the families are doing is joining forces, not buying and selling a girl. The ensuing children are from both families. The expectant father's family is investing in the bride's family, and this again is important where there is no welfare state.
A son to be proud of runs a business and makes a bunch of dough with hard work and honest trade. He can help support his aging parents. There is no welfare state for seniors either. The kids take care of the parents as the grim reaper draws nigh.
A daughter to be proud of can do the same thing. Except her business is in the home, making children. With a guy who runs a business and makes a bunch of dough with hard work and honest trade.
His number of wives is irrelevant. He either has sufficient dowry or not. A guy who is a doctor or architect, he can keep two families better than one man that sells cigarettes on the streets. How is this guy on the street going to pay for the children?
You don't let a daughter of any age fall in love with the guy selling cigarettes on the street. You do not even let her speak to him without guardianship. Because you have one shot with this daughter, when she is young and maximally fertile, fantastically beautiful, and she is not competent to make the decision.
It is EXACTLY what Americans argue about their own 13 year olds, 14 year olds, whatever the age of consent law prohibits. They cannot decide. It is statutory rape.
Well exactly so in the muslim world, but it is treated far more severely. Unless you are married, and that is highly encouraged. Be fruitful and multiply. The girl has passed from the protection of the father to the protection of the husband. Her children are provided for.
This is true in America too. You can marry at these ages, when you are insisting the girl cannot decide! So you actually agree on that point with the muslims, your society agrees they can be married off when both sets of parents approve along with a judge. What is the difference?
Look at this PC hypocrisy of insisting American girls cannot decide sex for themselves, despite the rampant sexualization of those very girls, of producing an epidemic of fatherless children and single mothers...
With all the horrific statistics on children of single mothers. The most abused. The least likely to succeed educationally, the most likely to end up committing crime, and to perpetuate even more fatherless children the next generation...
That is the result of Western culture. The kids are going to have sex if you do not directly chaperone them. Sex produces children, and there is no welfare state in the communities I speak of. So therefore the adults are in charge of making the sex decisions.
Except that they really are. And it is uncommon a 13 year old is married off in any case. She is going to be older, but nevertheless it is going to be an "arranged" marriage to a significant degree if not outright assigned.
Their idea of family relationships is that love grows between man and wife over time, not this romantic love idea the west has lately taken favor with. In it's wealth and decadence. It's utter depravity. Not even pretecting their 13 year olds. I see why they despise you.
The women, they see it as sensible with rare exceptions and those are rich princesses that can shoot their mouths off. You will call them brainwashed. And they will call yours brainwashed. Look how you cram feminism and LGBT down their throats relentlessly from the earliest age.
You are godless. They got you cold there. You say so what. They say there: he just proved how vile he is. Not even seeing why you need God, what filth.
I have to navigate both of these worlds to some degree, but the one thing I see both of you, American mainstream PC Culture and the muslims, is saying 13-17 year old girls cannot decide for themselves about sex.
One of them, the muslims, insist on linking it to marriage. The other permits it for marriage too, but absolutely lays the red carpet out for premarital sex by teens and propagates a culture of single mothers and fatherless children. Dependent upon the government, and with all the attendant bad social outcomes statistically.
We report, you decide.
