Poll: What's your autism quotient?

exarch,

I think I am safe from you. That map carried no info about my street name let alone my house number. And about that bomb.....is it landing any time soon?


QuarkChild,

It's funny the things you remember. I mean how long ago was that? And how insignificant? (I'm assuming you're joking about the therapy :D ). I do remember your avatar which was similar to but different from the one you have now. It is possible I didn't have one then which is perhaps why you didn't remember it was me (or perhaps I am just too insignificant :( )



BillyJoe
 
BillyJoe said:

QuarkChild,

It's funny the things you remember. I mean how long ago was that? And how insignificant? (I'm assuming you're joking about the therapy :D ). I do remember your avatar which was similar to but different from the one you have now. It is possible I didn't have one then which is perhaps why you didn't remember it was me (or perhaps I am just too insignificant :( )
I also remember the email QD sent me after reading that thread. I think the first line was, "Stay away from him!!" (Seriously.)
 
I got a score of 8.

I once knew someone who accused me (to other people) of having a minor case of Asperger's Syndrome.

I thought that was the goofiest thing I've ever heard. People in the know, when I mentioned the hypothesis of such a syndrome as 'minor case of Asperger's Syndrome' thought it equally goofy.

Perhaps what confused him was my tendency not to give a sh!t what expression was on people's faces back in my twenties, as opposed to not noticing. If you had been around some of the people that I've hung with, you could easily see where I'm coming from.

The major problem with this test: how can it differ shyness from a 'syndrome' or 'disorder'?
 
Billyjoe- Anyone who gets out of the shower to pee is simply anal.
Anyone who gets out of the shower to ◊◊◊◊ is simply practical.
Unless he goes to the kitchen.
 
QuarkChild said:
I also remember the email QD sent me after reading that thread. I think the first line was, "Stay away from him!!" (Seriously.)

(OK so I'm going to shameless puff up my posting by replying to these last few posts individually rather than combining then.)

BillyJoe - A dad is a dad is dad - even tho the activity described is 'normal' it came across as a crass attempt to start a dialog that could only result in giving you some kind of twisted pleasure. QC doesn't deserve that. That being said I hold no grudge or judgment.
 
Wrath of the Swarm said:
It doesn't. Not that it matters, as there are no objective criteria for "disorders" anyway.

I fully agree on the 'no objective criteria'. but every once and awhile I am presented with behaviors of mine that are way beyond shyness. Here is an example: Five properties converge in the northwest corner of my lot. Three of us have 90 degree corners, One deep pie shaped lot has a 10 degree slice and another huge lot has the rest. The 10 degree lot shares a 1 foot section of fence with me. That end of my yard has a slope about 20 feet deep that is tiered about 12 feet high to those 2 lots. My hobby is plants and I have put many hours of work out back. Several years ago the teenaged boy propped several old and broken surfboards against that 1 foot upper tier fence section. For him it was the forgotten corner. For me, I saw them everytime I went out there for 6 months. They broke the harmony of viewing my landscaping. A time came to paint the fence and I was up there with my airless sprayer and I just maliciously painted the tops of them along with the fence. After several days I went back and pushed them down as to not see them at all. About a month later I was working out back and the father stuck his head over the fence to find out what happened. Just telling him about it brought back this intense flood of emotion on my perceived wrong. He asked why I didn't ask them to move them. It was a brick in the face. That had never even occurred to me. I am virtually incapable of starting an interaction of that sort with a stranger. It was a new situation, I had no previous experience to draw upon. We all have phobias to different degrees. mine has to do with social interactions with strangers. Am I just shy? I have no trouble with meaningless banter with clerks, waiters and the like. But time and time again I run & hide from interactions that most people don't have a second thought about. So I gave the kid some money for his beat up worthless boards and a year later I looked over the fence and they were still abandonded back there. A small price for learning another socially acceptable solution.
 
Asperger's disorder is more than shyness.

I have difficulty recognizing faces. I can identify them in context (eg: woman sitting in my mother's chair -> must be my mother) but out of context it's often hopeless. One time in college someone knocked on my door. I opened the door and a blond girl was standing outside. Since I wasn't expecting anyone, I didn't know who it was. I probably tentatively guessed that it was my best friend, since I didn't know any other girls who would match her general description. But I wasn't sure! And asking was out of the question--what if it was my friend? She'd never forgive me! Fortunately, almost immediately she said, "Hi, what's up?!" and I don't have an inability to recognize voices. So then I knew for sure it was my best friend and everything was OK.

I'd known her for 16 years.
 
QuarkChild said:
Asperger's disorder is more than shyness.


Also agree - closely related:

I abhor conflict, exaggeration, play acting and confrontation...

note to self, send QC a QD picture now and then.
 
QuarkChild,

QuarkChild said:
I also remember the email QD sent me after reading that thread. I think the first line was, "Stay away from him!!" (Seriously.)
:D

But I am thousands of miles away. How safe could you be?
Anyway, I do remember you didn't respond so you must have done what your daddy told you to do. And daddy was probably very proud of his little girl.

But I wonder what he thinks of you now. :D

regards,
BillyJoe
(In Australia "daddy" is the friendly familiar form of "father")
 
QuarkPeople:

Do you have the feeling that you must emulate emotional responses that most other people have? Do you have difficulty understanding why people respond positively or negatively to certain things?
 
Wrath of the Swarm said:
QuarkPeople:

Do you have the feeling that you must emulate emotional responses that most other people have? Do you have difficulty understanding why people respond positively or negatively to certain things?
1.Yes. I observe the responses of other people and use them to make mental "scripts" that I can follow so that I respond the same as other people. Maybe everyone does that.
2. I don't know. Can you give an example?

Why?

[Edited for clarification]
 
QuarkChild said:
1.Yes. I observe the responses of other people and use them to make mental "scripts" that I can follow so that I respond the same as other people. Maybe everyone does that.
Not consciously. Most people model their emotional reactions after others', but they're not aware of the process, and they don't model the emotions themselves, just their patterns of activation.

Do you model the patterns of activation, or do you feel that you must emulate the basic emotional states as well?

2. I don't know. Can you give an example?
If you're asked what a hypothetical "average" person would feel in a certain situation, you have to think about it. You don't have an intuitive certainty about how people would feel in that situation.

Frankly, I was curious as to something a friend of mine mentioned to me once, that there is a definite subset of people who don't have the same inborn drives and preferences as the general populace. Among the associated attributes he mentioned was lacking certain "innate" emotional responses and a conscious attempt to simulate them in order to fit in.
 
Wrath of the Swarm said:
Do you model the patterns of activation, or do you feel that you must emulate the basic emotional states as well?
Emulate the emotional states? I just fake it. I can't make myself feel what I think I ought to feel, but I can respond as if I feel that way in an attempt to fit in. For example, during high school graduation, my female acquaintances were getting all weepy and emotional. Apparently leaving one's friends is supposed to make you feel sad. I didn't really feel any emotions, sad or otherwise, but I probably tried to fake it a little. I'm not too good at faking the emotion itself but I try to say the right words so it sounds like I feel sad (or whatever.)
If you're asked what a hypothetical "average" person would feel in a certain situation, you have to think about it. You don't have an intuitive certainty about how people would feel in that situation.
Well, in my real life example above, I definitely wouldn't have known how the average person feels at graduation without having observed other people's behavior. I certainly don't have an intuitive feel for that one. On the hand, there might be other examples which are easier to guess. For example, I wouldn't have to think too hard about how people are supposed to feel at funerals. Obviously they are supposed to feel sad.
Frankly, I was curious as to something a friend of mine mentioned to me once, that there is a definite subset of people who don't have the same inborn drives and preferences as the general populace. Among the associated attributes he mentioned was lacking certain "innate" emotional responses and a conscious attempt to simulate them in order to fit in.
That's kind of vague. There are a whole bunch of preferences that I don't seem to share with a hypothetical average person, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Maybe that's true for many people. I did feel as a kid that I didn't seem to like a lot of the things that the other kids liked. They liked games, parties, competition, television, movies, socializing, etc. When we'd have a film shown in class, they'd respond, "Yay, a movie!" as if it were a good thing. I'd rather have a formal lesson than be forced to watch a movie. And games are even worse. I hate the kind where people win or lose. When my dad and I play board games, usually my condition for playing is, "sure, as long as we don't keep score."

I think I have the same inborn "drives" as other people, though, if you don't count a social instinct. I try to avoid being hungry, cold, uncomfortable, etc. I thought that sort of thing was universal. (Or is that not what you meant?)

Anyway, it's probably possible to read too much into this. I don't want to fall into the trap of medical students' syndrome.
 
9

I don't know what that means and don't much care. I took the test because I am bored.
 
Wrath of the Swarm said:
QuarkPeople:

Do you have the feeling that you must emulate emotional responses that most other people have? Do you have difficulty understanding why people respond positively or negatively to certain things?

Yes, some times & Yes

It tooks me months to comprehend the 9/11 tragedy. A close friend at work described how he couldn't sleep immediately afterwards because it was so upsetting to him. I could not understand how someone could be affected so quickly. I have no problem saying something comforting to others under those circumstances even though I haven't developed my own emotional responses yet. Does the elapsed time it takes between stimuli and response matter in terms of human emotion? There are a lot of variables here. If something happened to QuarkChild (like graduating!) I sure I would be able to have immediate feelings of joy. My point here is how close the situation is to me is a factor.
 
Freaks, Geeks and Asperger Syndrome: A User Guide to Adolescence is a good book written by an AS kid. If you're non-AS and would like to understand AS kids better this is much better than some of the feted books like "Pretending to be normal". There's a sequence where he describes an interaction with a teacher I found hilarious.

Sorry about the double post - dunno how it happened.

Wanted to add: take the stuff about glutein free diets with a pinch of salt (proverbially speaking).
 

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