PNAC

[Tony]

Branding anyone and everyone with labels such as "terrorist" is similar to the US McCarthy era. If you spoke against the anti-communist thugs and their abuse of civil rights, then you must be a communist - or at a minimum - a "sympathizer". That era is looked back on in disgust here.

No its not, the PC nazis and racial special interest groups use the exact same tactics. That era gave birth to the lefts favorite tactics.

 

[Malachi151]

No its not, the PC nazis and racial special interest groups use the exact same tactics. That era gave birth to the lefts favorite tactics.

What a whack job, give me a break. Obviusly you've been taken by the propaganda of the extreme right.

 

[Tony]

What a whack job, give me a break. Obviusly you've been taken by the propaganda of the extreme right.

This is merely self projection. I have the evidence on my side.

 

[CapelDodger]

From Ziggurat:

Might it be that you're LOOKING for a way to interpret their statements this way?

It might, but it isn't.

A lot of your other complaints ...

I only made four points (responding to yours), so that would be two out of the other three? Which one's not included?

... longstanding shortcomings of the US (and hardly unique to us, BTW, just so you don't get any ideas)...

The US does not have a moral standing unique to itself from which they can order the world to their liking, so you don't get any ideas.

They are not hostile regimes. If you can't recognize the difference between a diplomatic spat and an actually hostile regime (like, say, North Korea), then you're completely clueless.

Now, is that kind?

What was the last "diplomatic spat" with allies that led to a common US fast-food item being renamed? The point is that the behaviour of the US towards the world community since Bush took over has been deliberately confrontational and often insulting. They won't sign Kyoto because it's a conspiracy against the US, they won't join the ICC because it's a conspiracy against the US, ditto chemical and biological weapons control regimes, ditto labelling of GM products. If "we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies ..." is on the agenda it's very low down, and presumably awaits those allies falling into coma.

Which, of course, is an argument that the PNAC doesn't inform the Bush administration's policies, but given the number of PNAC-linked Bushies that seems wildly unlikely. Another possibility, of course, is that it's rhetoric to cover the true stark meaning of the PNAC.

From Tony:

... the PC nazis ...

First to mention nazis, you're out.

 

[Tony]

First to mention nazis, you're out.

I mentioned PC nazis. There's a difference.

 

[a_unique_person]

I mentioned PC nazis. There's a difference.

No there's not.

 

[Tony]

No there's not.

You're right, PC nazis are nazis.