Plume in Flight 93 photo is different

Is the plume in this photo from Flight 93 crashing?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 129 90.8%
  • No.

    Votes: 13 9.2%

  • Total voters
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Dear Killtown, alas, GMT+1 will not allow me to ask this question much longer before I fall asleep at my keyboard.

You have agreed that windspeed is important when determining plume size.

What was the windspeed when the B-52 bomber crashed?

Apologies for shouting, its getting late...
Rich, last time on this, I showed the B-52 to give everybody an idea what a fireball from a large plane crash would look like. It was for REFERENCE. We are done with it. move on.

Why don't you figure and average min/max temps of the fireball?
 
Killtown, your blog states that the only criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt is if the plume was digitally inserted ("Photoshopped").

What analysis have you done to determine this? If none, will you immediately retract your allegations and insinuations about her, and issue an apology?
 
Killtown, your blog states that the only criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt is if the plume was digitally inserted ("Photoshopped").

What analysis have you done to determine this? If none, will you immediately retract your allegations and insinuations about her, and issue an apology?
for the thousandth time, we'll discuss this AFTER the experiment is over.
 
Killtown, can you PLEASE just pretend we all agree and GET ON WITH IT. This is the most painful thread I have ever witnessed.

-Andrew
 
for the thousandth time, we'll discuss this AFTER the experiment is over.
The thousandth time? I haven't seen you discuss this once.

As you said, you're not doing an experiment. You're waiting for others to provide you with numbers, because you think they should.

While you wait, answer the question:

Your only criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt is if the plume was Photoshopped.

What analysis have you done to determine if the plume was Photoshopped? If none, will you immediately make a retraction and apology?
 
Killtown, can you PLEASE just pretend we all agree and GET ON WITH IT. This is the most painful thread I have ever witnessed.

-Andrew
fireball min/max temps, then we are pretty much done before I'll make some diagrams of your estimates so we can judge the results.

One thing, your "crash to photo" times aren't going to work for your min. I can switch the times around, but they still won't work.
 
fireball min/max temps, then we are pretty much done before I'll make some diagrams of your estimates so we can judge the results.

One thing, your "crash to photo" times aren't going to work for your min. I can switch the times around, but they still won't work.


Will the temperatures affect these diagrams you're going to make?

-Andrew
 
I don't give out personal information. I'm not going to ask about your personal life, don't ask about mine. last words on this. move on.
Friend, most any private investigator or intelligence service could determine who you are, complete with your history, with a few keystroke, never mind track you day and night if they so desired.

I don't care about who you are personally. I ask what you do for a living to better determine your qualification(s) to be engaged in a debate for which you are in every way technically ill-equipped.
 
Friend, most any private investigator or intelligence service could determine who you are, complete with your history, with a few keystroke, never mind track you day and night if they so desired.

I don't care about who you are personally. I ask what you do for a living to better determine your qualification(s) to be engaged in a debate for which you are in every way technically ill-equipped.
I'm a shepherd. I herd sheep.
 
I'm not asking how the temperature will affect the plumes. I am asking how they will affect your drawings.

-Andrew
well if temperature could affect how fast the plume formed and rose up in the air for the wind to carry, this will affect the diagrams because I plan to list the times your min and max plumes had to travel to line up correctly.
 
That's fascinating. Is your expertise in that line of work a significant reason why you are having such great difficulty with matters of a technical nature, as evidenced by this thread?
The only difficulties on this thread is you guys coming up with YOUR estimates.

Do you concur with the latest estimates?
 
Rich, last time on this, I showed the B-52 to give everybody an idea what a fireball from a large plane crash would look like. It was for REFERENCE. We are done with it. move on.


I can't move on from this when this statement is on your blog: (after all, this is what your sig tells people to look at...)


Here is an example of what a smoke plume from a real plane crash would have looked like if it came from the alleged Flight 93 crash site, about 1.5 miles away from where this photo was taken

Given that

1) you have admitted that windspeed is important in determining plume size formation

2) you have no idea what the windspeed was when the B-52 plume formed

HOW CAN YOU MAKE THIS COMPARISON?
 
Given that

1) you have admitted that windspeed is important in determining plume size formation

2) you have no idea what the windspeed was when the B-52 plume formed

HOW CAN YOU MAKE THIS COMPARISON?
Everything discussed on this thread right now is about the experiment. If you don't want to contribute to this experiment, please hold your questions till afterward.
 
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