Plume in Flight 93 photo is different

Is the plume in this photo from Flight 93 crashing?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 129 90.8%

  • No.

    Votes: 13 9.2%
  • Total voters
    142
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Killtown said:
Val said she and the FBI timed herself when they came to take her camera's memory card away.
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Even professional actors struggle to repeat their actions exactly the same for different takes, especially if the takes are done on different days.

Val's actions during the 'FBI timing' are very probable different from her actions on 9/11.
 
elgarak said:
Even professional actors struggle to repeat their actions exactly the same for different takes, especially if the takes are done on different days.

Val's actions during the 'FBI timing' are very probable different from her actions on 9/11.
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Well all you have to do is look at the plume and tell it's still in it's infancy stage, so I'd say under 10 sec is a consistent claim.
 
Welcome Killtown. I guess since most of the skeptics have been banned at Loose Change, it gets kind of boring being able to converse with only believers. You should encounter no such paranoia here.

Regarding the picture, what's your point? No one to my knowledge is using this photo in any official capacity in any part of the 9/11 crash investigation. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But if you do, please do so with supporting evidence from reputable sources.

Edit to change phone to picture (huh :))
 
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Killtown said:
Well all you have to do is look at the plume and tell it's still in it's infancy stage, so I'd say under 10 sec is a consistent claim.
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can you provide evidence for this claim? say produce other plumes at 10 seconds that show a similar dissipation of the smoke between the plume and the alleged source?
 
Not going to read any conspiricy sites right now, as I am sufficiently angry for the day, but does it take into account the speed and angle of the impacts? What was the weather like at both sites (temp, barometric pressure, humidity) and how does your "analysis" control for those factors? Are both aircraft using the same fuel type? Have the people who "analysed" the pictures ever investigated large aircraft crashes or are they your typical armchair experts who have no real knowledge or experience and are in need of serious self-fornication? If the government was able to pull off the alledged 9/11 hoax so well, why were they so incompetent as to have their fake smoke plume be in the wrong spot? Why are the people exposing this "conspiricy" still alive? Any competent government conspiricy able to pull off something on that scale would be able to silence critics before the criticisims became so widespread. Or do you believe the conspiritors don't know how to use Google?

It would violate forum rules for me to say what I think about this particular "theory" and what the people promoting it are putting this lady through...

-David
 
DavidJames said:
1) Welcome Killtown. I guess since most of the skeptics have been banned at Loose Change, it gets kind of boring being able to converse with only believers. You should encounter no such paranoia here.

2)Regarding the picture, what's your point?

3) No one to my knowledge is using this photo in any official capacity in any part of the 9/11 crash investigation. (huh :))
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1) Yeah, it's too bad most skeptics don't know how to behave themselves during a debate.

2) :boggled:

3) Well I guess we are now!
 
AK-Dave said:
It would violate forum rules for me to say what I think about this particular "theory" and what the people promoting it are putting this lady through...

-David
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I tell you what, don't bother posting to this thread anymore.
 
Killtown said:
Wasn't my point perfectly clear in my opening thread? Something I mentioned about this plume originating from a different location, or something like that?
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But who cares?

I would understand if the offical report used that photo as part of their evidence, but they didn't. So if you are attempting to use that photo to refute the official report, you are wasting your time.
 
Why does your poll have only two options. As for me, I am unsure enough that I would have voted for "Don't know/can't tell" if it had been an option.

Are you trying to use this photo as evidence of something other than a 757 hitting the ground on that day?
 
DavidJames said:
1) But who cares?

2) So if you are attempting to use that photo to refute the official report, you are wasting your time.
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1) Who cares??? :boggled:

Americans who don't want their country over-run by tyrants, that's who care.

2) Why?
 
Ladewig said:
1) Why does your poll have only two options. As for me, I am unsure enough that I would have voted for "Don't know/can't tell" if it had been an option.

2) Are you trying to use this photo as evidence of something other than a 757 hitting the ground on that day?
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1) Not for sinister reasons, I can assure you.

2) No, I'm simply implying that this plume was not from that alleged crash. Two different incidences as far as I'm concerned.
 
Killtown said:
I'm only going to answer to people who are at least .0000001% openminded.
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Isnt it close minded to assume someone isnt open minded just because they dont believe you?

Ive given you the time of day to see your argument, and Im not convinced. You need to do better. We're not the problem. Your bad argument is.
 
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