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Luci,

Do the spoon benders not handle the spoons manually at all?

Yup - I just couldn't resist the "bender"-nudge...

Flyboy,

Agreed - the "metal is metal"-thing was CFL's - I'm just hoping he'd reveal where he picked up the original quote from because I've missed it...:)
 
Anders W. Bonde said:

Flyboy,

Agreed - the "metal is metal"-thing was CFL's - I'm just hoping he'd reveal where he picked up the original quote from because I've missed it...:)
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Ohh well in that case, no need to worry. I think it's just his way of patronizing (nobody in particular?) for no apparent purpose other than to make himself feel more secure:

Originally posted by CFLarsen

It was a joke. Sorry if I find the claim to bend spoons with your mind a bit silly.
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I've sent away for Mr. Houck's PK party video. Should be arriving here in the next week or so :)
 
Bump

Bump.

This Saturday, when my friends go to Mr. Houck's PK party, I'll have a better idea of how to follow up.
 
I can't comment on all spoon benders.

When I do it, I do indeed hold the spoon. I have seen others do the same / similar thing. I have felt spoons in the process of 'elasticity' and felt them when they have 'set'. There is no doubt that people can do this without trickery or props. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

It'll be interesting to see Fly's report, whether supportive or dismissive of the phenomena.
 
Lucianarchy said:
I can't comment on all spoon benders.
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Very well: Does Uri Geller handle the spoons manually, yes or no?

Lucianarchy said:
When I do it, I do indeed hold the spoon. I have seen others do the same / similar thing. I have felt spoons in the process of 'elasticity' and felt them when they have 'set'. There is no doubt that people can do this without trickery or props. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
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Please explain what "elasticity" and "set" means. How do we measure this?
 
What??????

Lucianarchy said:
I can't comment on all spoon benders.

When I do it, I do indeed hold the spoon. I have seen others do the same / similar thing. I have felt spoons in the process of 'elasticity' and felt them when they have 'set'. There is no doubt that people can do this without trickery or props. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

It'll be interesting to see Fly's report, whether supportive or dismissive of the phenomena.
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You are saying this is demonstratebly true? Pullleeeze! If that is so, why doesn't just one single person demonstrate it in an incontrovertable way? Shoot, you can bend spoons (and one would have to assume anything else) with your mind? Well the world is your oyster. You'd have to be a numbskull not to gobble it up.
 
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billydkid said:


You are saying this is demonstratebly true? Pullleeeze! If that is so, why doesn't just one single person demonstrate it in an incontrovertable way? Shoot, you can bend spoons (and one would have to assume anything else) with your mind? Well the world is your oyster. You'd have to be a numbskull not to gobble it up.
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You are making the mistake of enlarging the claim. I can't do it reliably, I don't know of anyone who can. Neither can I bend girders :rolleyes: But the world is indeed my oyster, and I savour rather than gobble.
 
CFLarsen said:


Very well: Does Uri Geller handle the spoons manually, yes or no?



Please explain what "elasticity" and "set" means. How do we measure this?
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Uri does indeed handle the spoons. I believe everyone does. As far as the elastic / rubbery feeling when the metal 'goes', I don't know how to measure it. The settled metal is as strong as the pre bent metal.
 
Lucianarchy said:
Indeed. Have you read the background literature tested it for yourself?
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Please keep to the subject. We have a testable claim.

What, precisely, was done to test it, Lucianarchy?
 
CFLarsen said:


Please keep to the subject. We have a testable claim.

What, precisely, was done to test it, Lucianarchy?
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On one occaision, I tried to physically un-bend a completely bent curled and twisted spoon which had been bent by an eight year old. I also tried to replicate it on another spoon from the same set with sheer physical force. Couldn't do it.
 
Did you see the Geller movie on the last commentary page. First I saw it before reading the text -- amazing! (sorry, JR)

Then I read about what he was actually doing and watched it again. Fascinating! If he only claimed to be a magician I would certainly admire his skill (but then Randi wouldn't have revealed the deception, either).
 
Lucianarchy said:
On one occaision, I tried to physically un-bend a completely bent curled and twisted spoon which had been bent by an eight year old. I also tried to replicate it on another spoon from the same set with sheer physical force. Couldn't do it.
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I was hoping that you could direct us to something more than your own accounts. There are no results from metallurgic labs?

Why do you accept this kind of evidence, when you simultaneously insist that lab results are the only thing?
 
CFLarsen said:


I was hoping that you could direct us to something more than your own accounts. There are no results from metallurgic labs?

Why do you accept this kind of evidence, when you simultaneously insist that lab results are the only thing?
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Do what you will with this, as it's posted on Mr. Houck's website:

http://www.jackhouck.com/scp.shtml
 
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