Pilots for truth

[Panoply_Prefect]

Hi!

I've always been under the impression that Pilots for truth was a site started and manned by aviation pilots that for some reason feel that 911 wasn't perpetrated by the Al Quaida. Recently (well, just now, Im in somewhat of a debate over JDX FDR-claims) I went over to their forums and found this:

Don't be fooled by the name of the forum - we are all pilots for truth. To pilot means to GUIDE, the use of the word is not restricted to airplanes

So they are "pilots" in the broadest way possible? Isnt even JDX a "real" pilot? Or am I missing something here?

/S

 

[Anti-sophist]

The pilots for 911 truth has a handful of actual professional pilots (well below the predicted 25% retardation rate). The forum-goers, however, are very different. Mostly it's filled with rejects from loose-change and other sites where they've been banned.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

Ahh...that explains it, their forum isnt a dedicated pilot forum, but an open one. Well, back to trying to understand the intricacies of the FDR then.

Tnx,
S

 

[B-Man]

Well I'm a 747 Captain and I made one post before I was banned.
But then again, JDX has a very poor record of debating me.
It's easier just to make me not exist.

Anyway, if you get a big enough pool of people, you can find someone that'll tell you anything. E.g. I bet if I looked long enough, I'd find a priest that doesn't believe in God.

 

[Stellafane]

I think I've said this before, but I like it so much I'll shamelessly repeat it: "Pilots for Truth" is one of those names, like "Holy Roman Empire" and "English Horn, " where not one single word is true. They're not pilots, they're not "for" anything, and they wouldn't know the truth if it got rammed up their sorry backsides.

 

[Jennie C.]

I think I've said this before, but I like it so much I'll shamelessly repeat it: "Pilots for Truth" is one of those names, like "Holy Roman Empire" and "English Horn, " where not one single word is true. They're not pilots, they're not "for" anything, and they wouldn't know the truth if it got rammed up their sorry backsides.

Or Meals Ready to Eat?

 

[Gravy]

I challenged JDX (Rob Balsamo) to a debate about flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. He first accepted, then said I should be executed and deleted the thread in which I posted my debate proposal. That was the second time he called for my execution. And he's their leader. Who would like to join me in a chorus of hallelujahs that this creep is no longer in command of passenger planes?

 

[HeyLeroy]

I was a member there and put up with a fair bit of abuse before I was banned. I was accused of inciting racial hatred! HA! ME?

They moved my thread to the "Debate" section, which you can't see unless you're a member and logged in. I'll fire up my sock and show you guys the post that got me banned.

 

[Calcas]

I challenged JDX (Rob Balsamo) to a debate about flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. He first accepted, then said I should be executed and deleted the thread in which I posted my debate proposal. That was the second time he called for my execution. And he's their leader. Who would like to join me in a chorus of hallelujahs that this creep is no longer in command of passenger planes?

Hallelujah is right. He's so nuts I've thought about reporting him through my contacts with the FAA if he ever says he's flying again.

I mean he may have been capable and medically qualified to fly at one time. But from what I've seen and read from him in the past few months I honestly feel he would pose a threat to the safety of his passengers.

 

[beachnut]

Or Meals Ready to Eat?

So you do not like the freeze dried Strawberries? You add water, place in freezer, and you can have some desert after the SCUD attack at 2am.

Or wrap your pork delight around the coffee maker and steal/beg/borrow some bread from an Arab, and have hot pork sandwich before desert. Do not tell the Arab what you are having.

The chief pilot at PFT is the censor NAZI, like the soup NAZI. On his youtube videos I was banned. "No comment for you"!

At his web site forum http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/ he bans quickly and you can ask questions never.

I never thought about it, but he has not flow real jets. I think all his flying has been done in props. He does not understand how easy a real jet is too fly. I am not telling a lie! Push throttle up go faster, push it all the way up and go too fast. He is just trying to be the Dylan Avery of Pilots. But gee the flying stuff has too much Jargon and Acronyms to sell videos. Who wants to hear KCAS, KIAS, CCIP, ARCP, DME, VOR, TACAN, ATC, TCAS, FMC, VVI, NM, miles that have 6067 feet in them, and other really neat stuff for pilots but crap for ordinary normal people.

He has added 4 pilots in the past months. Go check out the nuts and make sure no one hired them! You may want to stay away from these guys and machines with moving parts. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html -- I would not fly with these guys.

 

[beachnut]

Well I'm a 747 Captain and I made one post before I was banned.
But then again, JDX has a very poor record of debating me.
It's easier just to make me not exist.

Anyway, if you get a big enough pool of people, you can find someone that'll tell you anything. E.g. I bet if I looked long enough, I'd find a priest that doesn't believe in God.

What was your name there? I think I was reading your stuff. Some very rational people post there and vanish. I was reading a few posts that were very good, and JDX trashed them. Some he has left, but you have to sign up to see. There are a lot of topics you can not see without signing up.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

So am I right to assume that most of the work getting done on their main site is done by JDX? Such as the FDR-claims?

/S

 

[Anti-sophist]

So am I right to assume that most of the "work" getting done on the main site is done by JDX? Such as the FDR-claims?

/S

He has at least 2 (very) amateur "computer experts", whatever that means, that help him. My suspicion is most of the work is done by UnderTow and JDX makes most of the claims. It usually takes them a few months to even understand what the other is saying. Typically, UnderTow says one thing, JDX hears something else.. and JDX runs around the conspirosphere giving press releases of their new "findings"... never realizing that's not what they found, at all. Eventually they settle on a mutual delusion, and that's where we come in. They typically go through several rounds of refinement because they aren't smart to realize what they are actually looking at.

He also works with Lyte and Merc (the PentaCON jokers) and uses their eye-witness accounts because, when properly cherry picked, it supports his delusions.

 

[HeyLeroy]

I introduced myself like this:

Hey, all.
I don't think I'll be too popular around here, as I haven't seen anything that backs up any of the multivarious conspiracy hypotheses, but I'll do my part to debate politely. I'm not here to flame.
Oh, also, before I saw the note that 'my kind' have to stick to the "Debate" subforum I posted a thread in the "Pentagon" subforum.
Sorry about that; could a moderator kindly move it to the appropriate location?

The thread was moved to the "debate" section and renamed "Hi, Im a govt loyalist."(I'm not even American!)
I got a reply from this guy:

Beached​

Welcome aboard Leroy... however, I'm afraid that for your kind, segregation is the order of the day!

...unless of course you would like to put that huge cranium of yours toward working for our cause!

Here's some of the few responses I can cross-post without violating rule 8:

HeyLeroy,

You are not the first of the J*R*E*F-Queer community who tries to tease us,
but by far the most boring one.

Wake me up, when you did at least a little research about... about anything.
About life, human nature, politics (basics are sufficient for the start-up), about
physics, about english grammar... you name it, just make a start.

and, btw: I answered detailed to your link with the silly animation about AA77 in
the Pentacon- thread and still wait for you to response.

Stay at one topic for the beginning. Beeing gay is no excuse for being inconsequent.

Dude.. im just playing with you now.. i will ban you eventually because of the fact you are a foreigner who supports the govt story and the Patriot Act has no bearing on your life while trying to get genuine Americans with legit questions to buy the govt fairy tale...
"We were set up to fail... alot of people of things to hide.. almost 100 People!" - Lee Hamilton.
When a foreigner comes in here to tell us Americans to accept that it is ok if the 9/11 Commission was set up to fail.. i really think its none of your business and you should perhaps stick to your own country and their laws/rules/lies.
So, enjoy your stay as we play with you.. you will be banned when i feel i want to.
But painter may come in a do it long before i get the motivation to go into the admin cp. Im kinda being lazy right now.. wink.gif
We welcome those foreigners who try to help us get answers. We despise foreigners like you who try to shove this govt story crap down our throats.

Irony alert:

Could it be merely a coincidence that the majority of those who defend the official fairytale are the most obnoxious, vitriolic, offensive sumbags you could ever come across? Way to sell a story! laugh.gif

After a lot of abuse from him and others I posted this:

Oh, ha-ha! I just saw the title you guys put under my avatar[ Jerk-off Loyalist Turd]. You guys are too funny!

Don't worry, I can take being herded into the "debate" ghetto and wearing the little yellow 'juden' star you've sown to my lapel. Heck, I can even see your 'final solution' for me written on the wall.

I got banned, and this reply from JohndoeX:

Now you're banned for lying and trying to incite racial hate speak. We do not condone that here.

We have many jewish members here and within our families. Many who do not agree with Zionists.

So, was I "trying to incite racial hate speak"?

 

[Calcas]

He has at least 2 (very) amateur "computer experts", whatever that means, that help him. My suspicion is most of the work is done by UnderTow and JDX makes most of the claims. It usually takes them a few months to even understand what the other is saying. Typically, UnderTow says one thing, JDX hears something else.. and JDX runs around the conspirosphere giving press releases of their new "findings"... never realizing that's not what they found, at all. Eventually they settle on a mutual delusion, and that's where we come in. They typically go through several rounds of refinement because they aren't smart to realize what they are actually looking at.

He also works with Lyte and Merc (the PentaCON jokers) and uses their eye-witness accounts because, when properly cherry picked, it supports his delusions.

The "conspirosphere."

 

[Brainache]

What was your name there? I think I was reading your stuff. Some very rational people post there and vanish. I was reading a few posts that were very good, and JDX trashed them. Some he has left, but you have to sign up to see. There are a lot of topics you can not see without signing up.

B-Man doesn't post here a lot, but I think he is Billzilla. He's the bloke who got me started in this whole CT business by tearing JDX to pieces at the old LC forum. I still get a chuckle when I think about that thread.

 

[CHF]

I challenged JDX (Rob Balsamo) to a debate about flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. He first accepted, then said I should be executed and deleted the thread in which I posted my debate proposal. That was the second time he called for my execution. And he's their leader. Who would like to join me in a chorus of hallelujahs that this creep is no longer in command of passenger planes?

I said Hallelujah and Praise the Lord!!!

 

[mailman]

B-Man doesn't post here a lot, but I think he is Billzilla. He's the bloke who got me started in this whole CT business by tearing JDX to pieces at the old LC forum. I still get a chuckle when I think about that thread.

I personally know Billzilla from his days when he was flying for Air Pacific in New Zealand.

Bloody stand up bloke that...just a pity he is Australian!

Regards

Mailman

 

[PhantomWolf]

E.g. I bet if I looked long enough, I'd find a priest that doesn't believe in God.

Actually funny you should say that...

I once heard a story from a preacher who was telling of his days in the seminary. Apparently the first question they were asked is "Who believes in God." Several didn't put up their hands. Later he was chatting to one of them and asked about it, "Why are you here is you don't believe in God." That answer? "I heard the money was good."

 

[PhantomWolf]

...just a pity he is Australian!