Pilots fear threats from chem-trailers

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I suspect that there's a fair degree of tabloid sensationalism had gone into this story, information on the actual 'threats' are scant and devoid of context, and the AFP interest wasn't in relation to the alleged threats, rather the pest like behaviour at the airport. Still, having seen how crackpots attack climate scientists I have no doubt these chem-trailers would have said dome stupid things, especially if they were being engaged on a forum like the article hints at. I just wonder snout the context, whether these loons really do represent a threat to safety

AIRLINE pilots fear their jumbos could be shot down by conspiracy theorists who believe they are being poisoned by commercial aircraft.

The conspiracy theorists are part of a global "chemtrail" movement that claims jets are spraying toxic chemicals over heavily-populated towns and cities around the world.

"Threats to shoot down aircraft or harming pilots are becoming more prevalent, overt and alarming," says Mike Glynn, a current airline captain and former vice-president of the Australian and International Pilots Association.

"While most can be discounted as empty threats, there remains the possibility that some unhinged individual or group may act. It is beginning to cause consternation in pilot ranks.''
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http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/je...508708721?sv=a1f36123e9b1bd11117f7a11440a15fa
 
So yet more evidence that the sooner we remove biologicals from flying planes the better.
 
BStrong said:
Take offs and landings are vulnerable moments for aircraft.

No manpads required.
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And yet it does take more than throwing rocks from the end of the runway. What is the real threat here, if it is not MPAD equivalents? 30.06s? laser pointers?
 
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"The evidence that commercial airlines are spraying is overwhelming, you can see it on (Youtube) clip after clip."

ROFL.
 
ufology said:
Some planes are spraying something sometimes. But what?
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Unless you are referring to cropdusting, firefighting and other similar activities, then what is your evidence for this statement?
 
ufology said:
Some planes are spraying something sometimes. But what?
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Mostly water vapor and some other residues from burning hydrocarbons, a/k/a "fuel".

BTW, not just jet fuel. Gasoline does it, too. Lots of contrails were caused by high-flying piston aircraft back when it was common to have that type up high. In fact, I know of cases where modern pressurized piston single flying in the low 20,000's have left a contrail.

Find something real to worry about.
 
Even if there is evidence that some planes are spraying something mid-flight, where is the evidence that this unspecified something is descending to earth rather than breaking apart in the atmosphere?

BTW, I would have enlarged and bolded this entire message, but I didn't want to gouge everyone's eyes out.
 
Come to think of it, some of the prettiest contrail footage I've Evers seen was in the movie Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart. The air-to-air footage of the B-36 (was that Paul Mantz' work?) was amazing. Oh, yeah, gasoline burner (130 octane), even the jets on the plane...
 
Some-one hasn't been paying attention to the crazies of the world so the nutty claims become wider and wilder.
Making threats against aircraft will get them the psychiatric help they so desperately need
 
Yeah, maybe they'll get what they need at some mental health institution. But honestly, if a deranged person actually wants to cause a lot of problems to airplanes, with some small planning and not too much resources, he/she can do it. Its the sad truth.

Just put yourself on his/hers place and start thinking. The good news is that since this sort of thing is not happening, there are very few dangerous loonies like this theoretical one, regardless of his/hers motivations. And probably also because safety agencies are doing their jobs.

Oh, and yes, at last but not least, let me say this: If you believe in chemtrail nonsense, you are, IMHO, not just ignorant. You are at least a boderline paranoid type.
 
shadron said:
What is the real threat here, if it is not MPAD equivalents? 30.06s? laser pointers?
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Probably the laser pointers could be an actual threat here.

There has been many cases of using lasers to distract aeroplanes. I always thought they were just some idiot kids. But idiot conspiracy theorists? Maybe they could cause some concern if they actually were able to make some kind of concerted effort.
 
Threat to safety of planes? Doubt it. Threat to safety of individual pilots, possibly. However, there tends to be a fair amount of security on and around airports.

One mustn't forget that the people that believe in these theories are the most incompetent and inert people imaginable. Look at where 9/11TM has gotten. Chemtrailers are ridiculous...

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spin0 said:
Probably the laser pointers could be an actual threat here.

There has been many cases of using lasers to distract aeroplanes. I always thought they were just some idiot kids. But idiot conspiracy theorists? Maybe they could cause some concern if they actually were able to make some kind of concerted effort.
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That's indeed one possibility. However, that's still far from "shooting down" planes.

Shouldn't this be in CT, btw? :boxedin:
 
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