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Physics Loonies

rebel said:
When it come to Physics, I think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, rather than amateurs such as yourselves.
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When it comes to BS, I'll trust a pro, like 28K, rather than an amateur such as you.
 
How about trusting the actual laws of physics instead? They take precedence over anyone's professor title. Especially a professor who's proven himself to not understand them properly.
 
rebel said:
When it come to Physics, I think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, rather than amateurs such as yourselves.
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If you're going to try and appeal to authority can explain why ex-Professor Jones is the only physicist who has said anything about these supposedly obvious breaches of the laws of physics?

And once you've done that, please explain the lack of objection of pretty much the entire world scientific community, paying special attention to structural engineers, fire engineers and architects.

Alternatively, you could tell us your theories and back them up with evidence and calculations.
 
Professional implies that you receive money for your expertise. Steven Jones is no longer a professional and now is relegated to the rank of amateur physicist like many of us.

Surprisingly, there are several people on this board who are structural engineer-types who are, in fact, being paid to use their knowledge. They are receiving paychecks, unlike Steven Jones, to do this type of work. Therefore, some of us are in fact professionals, whereas Steven Jones is clearly not, any longer. Sorry.

ETA: He said "professor" not "professional". I misread. All the same logic still applies.
 
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rebel said:
When it come to Physics, I think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, rather than amateurs such as yourselves.
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Professor is a title gained through employment. The value of the title is based on the assumption that the bearer has and exhibits the knowledge of the subject matter in a manner consistent with the expectation of the title. If not, they get their ass canned.

So rebel, exactly where is Staven (sic) Jones a professor?
 
DavidJames said:
Professor is a title gained through employment. The value of the title is based on the assumption that the bearer has and exhibits the knowledge of the subject matter in a manner consistent with the expectation of the title. If not, they get their ass canned.

So rebel, exactly where is Staven (sic) Jones a professor?
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Steven Jones has a PhD in physics. This thread is ridiculous. To claim CTs are all people who think a helter skelter ball will continue in a spiral is just utter crap.
 
rebel said:
Steven Jones has a PhD in physics. This thread is ridiculous. To claim CTs are all people who think a helter skelter ball will continue in a spiral is just utter crap.
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Why did you quote me when your response had nothing to do with my comment and question?


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Yes Jones has a PhD. That means he completed the requisite studies. While it suggests the subsequent work produced would be of high quality, each piece of work would need to stand on it's own.

Jones' work got him fired from his job.
 
DavidJames said:
Why did you quote me when your response had nothing to do with my comment and question?


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Yes Jones has a PhD. That means he completed the requisite studies. While it suggests the subsequent work produced would be of high quality, each piece of work would need to stand on it's own.

Jones' work got him fired from his job.
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Jones would not expect the marble to continue in a spiral, that's my point.
 
He probably won't expect a marble to continue in a spiral, but the assumptions he's made about the WTC towers falling are errors of the same order of magnitude.
 
rebel said:
Jones would not expect the marble to continue in a spiral, that's my point.
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No but he does claim to have evidence that jesus walked amongst the mayan.

Gotta give the man kudos for his research abilities. :D
 
rebel said:
When it come to Physics, I think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, rather than amateurs such as yourselves.
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So why won't you trust the people here, such as myself, who also have degrees in Physics?

Or is it that you meant to say, "... think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, who supports my preconceived notions, ... "?

If you're an "amateur" in physics, on what basis do you elevate the work of one physicist over another?
 
Sorry, Dr. Adequate, the continual spiral motion transgresses Newton's First Law: "A body remains at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted on by an external force".

The Second Law states that the force required to give a given mass a given acceleration is the product of the mass and the acceleration (F=ma).
 
Horatius said:
So why won't you trust the people here, such as myself, who also have degrees in Physics?

Or is it that you meant to say, "... think I will trust a Professor of it, such as Staven Jones, who supports my preconceived notions, ... "?

If you're an "amateur" in physics, on what basis do you elevate the work of one physicist over another?
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What are my preconceived notions? Do you know I am an amateur? What work have you done on the collapse of the towers?
 
Hawk one said:
He probably won't expect a marble to continue in a spiral, but the assumptions he's made about the WTC towers falling are errors of the same order of magnitude.
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Jones is a very strange one. He has the same lack of intuition as the others, but he has that unfortunate physics training so that he knows the rules. He knows that what was being put out by the scholars was nonsense, but he went along with it until the contradictions got to be too much.

It shows how much intuitions shape our beliefs sufficiently to override our education. Mostly the problem arises with obscure areas of quantum physics, rather than the effects of gravity.
 
rebel said:
What are my preconceived notions? Do you know I am an amateur? What work have you done on the collapse of the towers?
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If you think any of the twoofer scientists know what they're talking about, then yeah, evidence suggests you don't know what your talking about. Do feel free to prove me wrong.

As for preconceived notions, I don't know, I'm simply inferring. Once again, feel free to post what you do think, so we can at least know your actual beliefs. In the absence of such disclosure, we're forced to speculate, and you won't like that, I assure you.


uk_dave said:
Horatius planted the Thermate Cutting Charges.......

(But don't tell anyone)
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Caught!
 
PerryLogan said:
But it takes more than just ignorance of physics to make a Truther. It also takes a well-rounded ignorance of general science, current events, history, diplomacy, politics, government, psychology, social dynamics, cultural history, and most other topics known to the human race.
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What we might call Renaissance men of ignorance?
 
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