Phelps on Carlin

Nice video.

You can feel the waves of Christian love flood out of the screen.

Praise be.


Isn't there a Phelps in every Christian waiting to get out?


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I find Fred Phelps to be a humbling lesson in the limitations of my own capacity for tolerance.

I don't mean whether I'm able to tolerate what he says or understand or accept it; I mean the nagging thought that if he was ever within 100 yards of me I might be unable to resist the temptation to physically put my foot in his a** or worse.
 
Ratatosk said:
I find Fred Phelps to be a humbling lesson in the limitations of my own capacity for tolerance.

I don't mean whether I'm able to tolerate what he says or understand or accept it; I mean the nagging thought that if he was ever within 100 yards of me I might be unable to resist the temptation to physically put my foot in his a** or worse.
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Starting a fight will only play into his hand. There is another way to handle Phelps.

I did some volunteer work, helping with communications at the Columbine memorial service in 1999.

When I got there early in the morning, Fred and his gang were already set up between the parking area and where the service would be held. A spot thousands would pass by later during the day. Even at that early hour, they were waving signs and cursing at those that passed by.

Fred's goal is to make a stink and show up on TV. More than anything he is out for publicity. A few of us came up with a solution for dealing with Phelps. We sent a volunteer back down the path and had him to instruct people to just ignore the protesters. Don't talk with them, don't argue with them, just walk by as if the WBC gang was not even there.

For the most part our plan worked. Even the reporters got the message. If you watched that event on TV, you would not have known Phelps was present. The newspapers mentioned he was there, but he didn't even rate a photo.

Phelps didn't get what he wanted that day.
 
triadboy said:
I wonder how large the attendance will be at Fred's funeral?
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I'm reminded of an old gossip line attributed to about five different women writers in early Hollywood. Upon someone commenting that more than 5000 people showed up for Irving Thalberg's funeral, she commented:

They wanted to make sure the sonovabitch was dead.
 
Kestrel said:
... We sent a volunteer back down the path and had him to instruct people to just ignore the protesters. Don't talk with them, don't argue with them, just walk by as if the WBC gang was not even there.

For the most part our plan worked. Even the reporters got the message. If you watched that event on TV, you would not have known Phelps was present. The newspapers mentioned he was there, but he didn't even rate a photo.

Phelps didn't get what he wanted that day.
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Very true, it's called "narcissism". There is nothing the self involved narcissist hates worse than being ignored. Evidence of this on the forum as well. I just can't figure out why I feel sorry for these types, but I do.
 
Kestrel said:
Starting a fight will only play into his hand. There is another way to handle Phelps.

I did some volunteer work, helping with communications at the Columbine memorial service in 1999.

When I got there early in the morning, Fred and his gang were already set up between the parking area and where the service would be held. A spot thousands would pass by later during the day. Even at that early hour, they were waving signs and cursing at those that passed by.

Fred's goal is to make a stink and show up on TV. More than anything he is out for publicity. A few of us came up with a solution for dealing with Phelps. We sent a volunteer back down the path and had him to instruct people to just ignore the protesters. Don't talk with them, don't argue with them, just walk by as if the WBC gang was not even there.

For the most part our plan worked. Even the reporters got the message. If you watched that event on TV, you would not have known Phelps was present. The newspapers mentioned he was there, but he didn't even rate a photo.

Phelps didn't get what he wanted that day.
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Kudos to that.
 
H3LL said:
Isn't there a Phelps in every Christian waiting to get out?
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It makes it so much more convenient to be able to classify people wholesale. Much easier than taking 'em one at a time.

Christians - Phelps. There we are, sorted. No need to think about them any more.

I noticed a similar approach in the "I'm glad I'm not Christian because some fundamentalist insulted a bunch of gays" thread. The handy thing is that this can be applied to gays as well! Or atheists, or jews - you name it. Just have a bad experience and let it set your opinions for the rest of your life.
 
westprog said:
It makes it so much more convenient to be able to classify people wholesale. Much easier than taking 'em one at a time.
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Yes, you are quite right. Very bad of me.

I should only classify people wholesale when there is a common factor uniting them all, guiding their actions and providing a written set of common rules and instructions for them to follow.

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H3LL said:
Yes, you are quite right. Very bad of me.

I should only classify people wholesale when there is a common factor uniting them all, guiding their actions and providing a written set of common rules and instructions for them to follow.

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Yeah, I'm sure the remark was due to a well-calculated impersonal in-depth appraisal.

Let's insert some different values and see how it sounds.

Isn't there an Osama Bin Laden in every Muslim trying to get out?
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Isn't there a shyster lawyer in every Jew trying to get out?
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Isn't there a Joseph Stalin in every atheist trying to get out?
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See how easy it is.
 
westprog said:
See how easy it is.
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Well not so easy as we are still waiting for you to let us know which is the "True" bible (I guess one that doesn't have the passages that inspire Phelps) and then you can give us the lesson on how to cherry-pick from it to become a proper Christian.

While you are at it you must let us know the source of the written set of common rules and instructions for atheists.

Enquiring minds need to know.

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PS - I don't get the "shyster lawyer" bit. Is this some Jew thing you have that you think others will understand. Sorry, but it went over my stupid head.

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H3LL said:
Well not so easy as we are still waiting for you to let us know which is the "True" bible (I guess one that doesn't have the passages that inspire Phelps) and then you can give us the lesson on how to cherry-pick from it to become a proper Christian.

While you are at it you must let us know the source of the written set of common rules and instructions for atheists.

Enquiring minds need to know.
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Unlike the fundamentalist atheists* on JREF, I don't have hangups about reconciling the many contradictions of the Bible with having Christian belief. The reason I know that Christians aren't all like Phelps is by observing Christians and Phelps, not by picking sections out of Leviticus.

And persecution of homosexuality is not necessarily religious in nature. As with much prejudice, the bigot looks for justification and finds it, whether in his religious texts, psychoanalysis or Marxist theory.

http://community.middlebury.edu/~moss/RGC2.html

Who was most like Phelps in the USSR?

PS - I don't get the "shyster lawyer" bit. Is this some Jew thing you have that you think others will understand. Sorry, but it went over my stupid head.

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I got it the same place you got your absurd, baseless assertion about Christians.


*And the fundamentalist atheists seem to be a small sub-group of the atheists.
 
westprog said:
... I don't have hangups about reconciling the many contradictions of the Bible with having Christian belief. ..blah-blah-blah...snip
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Fair enough.

Could you let us know how we identify the Christians that haven't cherry-picked Leviticus from the bible from the ones that might cherry-pick Leviticus in the future - should circumstances favour such a thing?

Also how best to identify the Christians that have cherry-picked from Leviticus?

Which parts of Leviticus should not be cherry-picked to become a good Christian?

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technoextreme said:
Yeah but I remember reading somewhere that his daughter said this isn't an act.
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I think she is right. I imagine it would be immensely stressful to bear as much disdain as Phelps does, without either a sincere conviction to have the truth, or another psychological gain from pissing off nearly the whole world.

One fascinating thing about it is how he manages to keep his clan in line. Hardly any of his descendants get away from WBC.
 
westprog said:
And persecution of homosexuality is not necessarily religious in nature. As with much prejudice, the bigot looks for justification and finds it, whether in his religious texts, psychoanalysis or Marxist theory.
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True. One of the surprises (to me) in the underlying data from that Pew study referenced in the "21% of atheists believe in God" thread is that support for legal discrimination against homosexuality is higher among the "not religious" group than among some of the religious groups. That said, the fundamentalists (evangelicals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons) led the pack, so the stereotype is not without some justification.
 
moon1969 said:
Did Phelps say he was going to Carlins funeral? Wow what a jerk. Have atleast some respect and don"t go to protest peoples funerals.
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If I understand Carlin's will correctly, there won't be any funeral that Phelps can attend in the way they usually do.

Jesus Baby Daddy said:
[...] Though I think I remember reading some place that they have been assulted many times. Though I've never seen it. If anybody has links to them getting their behinds kicked, I'd be more then happy to see a link. :p
I can't condone violence against them :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Have you already seen this video? (1 minute on Youtube)
 
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As good a time as any to show the Micheal Moore vs. Fred Phelps video again:

 
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