You are an Air Transport Pilot, so I respect your knowledge about flights. I posted a link to the news report and graphic made by USA Today, a main stream news source. Similar descriptions and graphics are found in the New York Times, Washington Post, etc. So if all these news outlets are wrong, and you have proof, you are welcome to let them know. You could edit Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11
Who expects their graphic to be exact? It was showing relative flight paths. They are wrong if they show paths which do not match the RADAR data for each plane. You missed the point, you can't trust the main stream media, you must have the raw data. You post nonsense without checking the facts. Typical of 911 truth, shoddy research, posting false information.
You made a good point that a 20 degree right turn would makes sense go towards SFO. But, Flight 11 was bound for Los Angeles, not San Francisco.
You missed the point again! The 20 degrees right turn was for traffic, not to go to SFO or LAX, and that heading was only off a great cirle route to LAX by 16 degrees.
The heading assigned to Flt 11 was due to traffic, not to go to LAX. After the traffic is clear Flt 11 would have been given clearance on course. This point from 911 truth about heading is stupid. I posted the ATC transcript.
I did not look up where 11 was going, I am not doing your work for you, and I exposed the fact I did not look up the NTSB data to see where 11 flight planned to last night at 3am, or was it 1am...
... , your wrong-way is a vector and very close to the great circle route to SFO - gee was 11 planing on going to SFO? Any clue on this?
911 truth is void of flight knowledge - beware!
... Poor Dave.
I asked, and you looked it up, thanks, 11 was going to LAX. The vector, very close to a great circle route to LAX too, the point is the Pilot was on a vector, not a path to anywhere! A vector to avoid traffic, and ATC direction until Flt 11 is cleared back on course, or to intercept course, or cleared INS direct, etc! Need more help?
Now, if I made this mistake you would probably be hounding all over me "What! Fly much? Clueless! etc." But I'm not like that, and just want facts.
You are not doing very good at finding facts, you are excellent at posting moronic claptrap from 911 truth; super job.
Wikipedia: "The 9/11 Commission estimated that the hijacking began at 8:14." This is about a minute after ATC instructed them to turn, as you provided.
Really, that is what I said in the last post, with time and everything. You must of missed it while in a rush to post more 911 truth failed claims. It takes some analysis.
See...
Not the truth! Flight 11 took off and about 12 minutes after take off 11 was vectored right 20 degrees by ATC. The truth is ATC vectored 11 twenty degree right, the pilots turned the aircraft and then were killed, never talking to ATC again, dead, killed by terrorists.
The time was on the transcript I posted, it matches up with your next statement. Connecting the dots.
8:19 Betty Ong reports "The cockpit is not answering..." (Did she not see any hijackers go in?)
Really, the pilots are dead, throats cut so they can't stop the plot. A pilot can disable an aircraft in seconds. If you knew the rest of the story you would not ask a flippant question like that.
At 8:26:30 Flight 11 makes a 100 degree turn to the south, according to the NTSB Report, Page 3.
http://www3.ntsb.gov/info/Flight_ Path_ Study_AA11.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks
The airplane maintained this altitude and the Northwest heading until about 8:26:30 (point E). At this point, the airplane made a level, left turn to the South.
Does this mean it takes 10 minutes or 12 minutes to kill two pilots and make sure they are dead, then you truth the plane? What was your point? Is there one?
The continuation of the NORTH west path for 10 to 12 minutes is suspicious because Atta should have known that NYC is SOUTH west and turned at 8:14, or at least within a few minutes of the hijacking. He then would have another 10 minutes or so to get back south. This detour wasted time, exposing the flight to intercept.
Really, how long does it take to make sure pilots are dead and move them? What if you missed the artery and they fought being killed? Have you ever tired to kill two pilots in a very small space? Undo bloody seat belts? 10 minutes to take over from two pilots who don't want to die? What is the time it should have taken? You make up nonsense for no reason, or is to support your fantasies on 911?
Before 911 hijacked aircraft were not intercepted in minutes if at all. No one had a clue 11 was hijacked! Sorry, there is no point to this beside exposing your lack of knowledge in flying, hijacking procedures, and more.
Since 11 was the first plane to takeoff delaying the time to turn to the target only gives 175, 93, and 77 more time before it is clear murder is in the air! Your premise if bogus and WRONG.
You need to research ATC procedures, hijacking procedures before 911, and some other topics.
Dr. Griscom hypothesizes that a drone met and replaced Flight 11 near Amsterdam NY, about 64 miles from Griffiss. It is a common War Game tactic for 2 or more planes to fly close, to appear as 1 radar blip to the other side.
What planes were stationed at Griffiss? Source this BS about war game tactics. Please post the references.
Hypothesis means it is a theory, not a claim as fact. It is yet one more thing for a New Investigation to check out. The OCT is a hypothesis.
Oops, wrong again, the RADAR track shows no replacement. Darn, the hypothesis by Dave the dolt on 911 issues is moronic nonsense when you add reality based evidence.
You well know this, but here is a graphic for non-pilots to see that the compass and heading indicator is easy for the pilot to see.
I see three compass systems, but you are pointing to the ADI! This is funny stuff. Dave makes up idiotic delusions for his theory of 911 and can't figure out where the compass is, which I already gave you 4 reference to help you with this error Dave made, and you repeat.
The funny part, the sun was up, visible, it was early in the morning, which way is south? Would being a boy scout pay off? Compass, Compass, I don't need no stinkin compass.
Think about it, drive to the coast (fly), turn right, and in 20 minutes or so you are in NYC! No pilot skills needed to do 911, just ability to kill, mindlessly kill for your god which you are not allowed to say his name. Whey do you make up delusions about the acts of 19 murderers who had to train to do 911?
The ADI is a pilots earth. When we can't see the earth, we use the ADI to know which way is up, along with a number of instruments to help back it up. On 911 the terrorist pilot needed no instruments, it was clear.
Clearly you are right.
