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Ed Pentagon - TruthMakesPeace

Childlike Empress said:
Here's a short little video from twenty minutes after the "impact". The conclusion is crystal clear for every astute observer before any CIT investigation was started: No 757 hit the Pentagon. People were fooled.


Deal with it.
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Are you sure you posted the right video?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Calling me kid and child won't strenghten your blatant lack of arguments. It's in plain sight: No 757 hit the Pentagon. I'll leave you with April Gallup's testimony - you know I don't play your games anymore. Maybe cicorp will show up.

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Yeah... how'd that work out for her again?

US Judge Denny Chin said:
Gallop's claims are factually baseless -- indeed, because they are fanciful, fantastic and delusional -- they are dismissed.
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http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...pbnxyZXNpcHNhMjAwNnxneDo2YmI0NTQwNTY2ODQxYTIz

Oh yeah, now I remember.
 
They never seem to answer most questions. They just want to recite and dictate and expect everyone to be as gullible as they are, accepting every word as "truth" without question.
 
Did Aldo's newest bestest buddy ever explain how the first video that talked about the jet slamming into the side of the Pentagon supported the mutt's fly over theory?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Calling me kid and child won't strenghten your blatant lack of arguments. It's in plain sight: No 757 hit the Pentagon. I'll leave you with April Gallup's testimony - you know I don't play your games anymore. Maybe cicorp will show up.

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And I'll leave you with her original 'testimony'.

April Gallop's CMH Interview

And by the way, she exited out a set of double doors blown out by the initial explosion. She collapsed as soon as she got outside and really has no first hand knowledge of anything. Her mind was focused on her child, normal for a mother.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Calling me kid and child won't strenghten your blatant lack of arguments. It's in plain sight: No 757 hit the Pentagon. I'll leave you with April Gallup's testimony - you know I don't play your games anymore. Maybe cicorp will show up.

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April Gallup......who's lawsuit was tossed by a federal judge that describbed it has cynical delusion and fantasy. :jaw-dropp
 
Animal said:
April Gallup......who's lawsuit was tossed by a federal judge that describbed it has cynical delusion and fantasy. :jaw-dropp
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April Gallup.... who accepted a huge settlement from American Airlines when its plane slammed into the Pentagon.

The truthers pick the most ridiculous and cynical heroes.

Good for you CE!
 
Cicorp said:
Rumsfeld is seen helping to carry people (photo op) instead of leading the DoD.
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Rumsfeld was a naval aviator in the 1950's. They have a very strict policy about "No man left behind". They kinda live by it. (Al la USAF Captain Scott O'Grady, June 2nd, 1995 over Bosnia)

What was he supposed to do when people were injured and dying all around him? Go back to his desk?

Come on. Don't be so obtuse.
 
Didn't April Gallop (sucessfully) sue American Airlines in 2003 for the injuries and emotional trauma she received on 9/11?

Oh, right, but now she claims it was a bomb.....

So, either she was lying then, or she is lying now. Pick one.



Either way, she's still a liar.
 
jaydeehess said:
Since cicorp is unwilling to start a new thread and has instead derailed one, I have posted a response to one of his posts here
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You begin with an Unwarranted Assumption. I am very willing to start a new thread, and am glad you did it first. I am not trying to derail anything, and just answer posts much as time permits, where they come in. I'm not Aldo. Do you take back your Unwarranted Assumptions and Accusations?
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Maybe cicorp will show up.
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You folks sure are dedicated to getting to the truth. I made a few posts, came back after dinner, and there is a new thread named after me, with 2 pages already. Plus I'm accused of not showing up. :)

The Pentagon is the biggest mystery to me, and the closest 9/11 site to home. I see strong evidence for several theories, but am not taking sides yet. There may be a theory no one has thought of yet, that explains everything. That's why I'm at JREF, to get more information and discuss ideas.
 
I guess Valujet Flight 592 didn't crash into the Everglades either.
 
So we are seriously supposed to believe that aircraft parts were built into the wall so when the bombs went off they would be scattered around outside?

Why wasn't the wall blown outwards?

What about the DNA of the passengers that was recovered from the site? was that also planted in the wall?
 
cicorp said:
The Pentagon is the biggest mystery to me, and the closest 9/11 site to home. I see strong evidence for several theories, but am not taking sides yet. There may be a theory no one has thought of yet, that explains everything. That's why I'm at JREF, to get more information and discuss ideas.
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You really need to list them because all of the evidence points to one thing. A 757, identified as American Airlines flight 77 took off from Dulles at 8:20am from gate D26. We have the hand-written statements from the air traffic controllers who handled the plane from taxi to take-off, backed up by the real-time audio for them.

The plane was lost to air traffic controllers (transponder turned off) in the vicinity of the Ohio/KY/WV border. We have their statements and audio as well. Although not visible on ATC screens, we have unbroken radar coverage of that plane from a number of Air Route Surveillance Radars (ARSR) along the way back to the Dulles area where it was again picked up by Dulles controllers. They brought it to Reagan air controllers attention who tracked it all the way to the Pentagon on their radar. We have data from four local Approach Control Radars and two ARSR's to support that. We have their statements and real-time audio.

Reagan diverted a C-130 to identify and track the aircraft, which the pilot (real-time audio) identified as a 757. It was then picked up by two Arlington County Police Officers and we have their identification on the ACPD dispatch audio (American Airlines). They watch the plane descend into the Pentagon area, where it is picked up by approximately 100 documented eyewitnesses who saw the plane go into the Pentagon.

Not one iota of data to support that it was a cruise missile. Not one eyewitness or other data (radar, air traffic controller, pilot of other planes in the area, etc) to indicate that the plane went past the Pentagon.

Yes, some amateur sleuths cherry-picked some eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon, but made the error of using only witnesses from the north side of the path. This naturally skewed the path to the north in their area. They did something similar to the west of the Sheraton and skewed the path south in that area. That is what happens when you cherry-pick witnesses. However, normal population behavior with results based on location of the witnesses rather than the location of the plane. Even with this abnormal witness set, they all agree the plane impacted the Pentagon.

The physical damage at the Pentagon is consistent with such an impact, and the debris field corresponds to the angular impact. The debris cloud is captured on radar by the DCA ASR, and it too is consistent with the angular impact and wind patterns. Location of body part (yes, parts, not bodies) recovery is also consistent with the impact and angular impact (human flesh found by the gate house which took the infamous video footage).

So if you have strong evidence for anything other than flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, I would sure like to hear it because after 5 years of research, I sure have not seen it.
 
So, CE and cicorp, since you two seem to be the physics experts...how do you surmise that a bomb, planted inside the building, produces a explosion that looks like this and ejects only plane parts on to the lawn? And knocks over light poles toward the building?

 
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