Peak Oil?

[a_unique_person]

What Ziggurat said.

At least the first poster (I couldn't read on) seems to have a doom-and-gloom outlook, and has already decided s/he has special insight.

ETA: Dave

There is alot of oil out there, but it is not so easy to get as the first oil was. That is, peak oil is not just "how much is left", but "how fast can we get it out". That is what appears to be at issue. Sand oil, shale oil, etc, are not anything like the production rates that the easy oil has been.

 

[CaveDave]

So, would you have rather me re-typed their arguments in my own style, passing it off as my own arguments and data that I myself found? That, my friend, is what would be weak.

Personally, I don't mind that my writings were cut-and-pasted. You asked for something to use, I wrote some thoughts, I'm flattered they were thought usefull.

Dave

 

[viscousmemories]

Personally, I don't mind that my writings were cut-and-pasted. You asked for something to use, I wrote some thoughts, I'm flattered they were thought usefull.

Dave

Actually it was Ziggurat's post he cut-n-pasted.

 

[CaveDave]

Actually it was Ziggurat's post he cut-n-pasted.

You think?

Posted by SkepticJ on the other thread:

Re: Bigger Than Worlds, Future Tech And O.A. Stuff
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A potential hydrocarbon source is in the form of gas, primarily methane, trapped in high-pressure deep ocean ices. Called methane hydrates, there may be more hydrocarbons here than the total of all petroleum so far extracted and in the known reserves. That's a lot!

A few links on methane hydrates:
http://www.llnl.gov/str/Durham.html

http://www.fe.doe.gov/programs/oilgas/hydrates/

http://www.ornl.gov/info/reporter/no16/methane.htm

http://marine.usgs.gov/fact-sheets/...ates/title.html

There are potentially problems associated with these resources and their recovery, but man is a clever critter and will survive if we don't just lay down and give up due to fatalism and negativity. Can't never could do anything.
You and your forum buddies go ahead and give up though, and your's and their ancestors will die with the next big asteroid impact in thousands or more years. Asteroids, big ones, will hit earth several more times before Sol starts to kill Earth with the increase in heat. Climate change, can also kill humans long before Sol also. Giving up=death. All the sane people will try and survive by keeping "high"(someday this technology will be laughably primitive) technology; our ancestors(many we wouldn't even call human because they'll be so weird) will call the stars of the Milky Way and beyond home.

I seem to recognize some of that from MY post:

Another potential HC source is in the form of gas, primarily methane, trapped in high-pressure deep ocean ices. Called methane hydrates, many researchers believe there may be more energy locked in these deposits than the total of all petroleum so far extracted and in the known reserves.

A few links on methane hydrates:
http://www.llnl.gov/str/Durham.html

http://www.fe.doe.gov/programs/oilgas/hydrates/

http://www.ornl.gov/info/reporter/no16/methane.htm

http://marine.usgs.gov/fact-sheets/...ates/title.html

There are potentially problems associated with these resources and their recovery, but man is a clever critter and will, IMHO, survive if we don't just lay down and give up due to fatalism and negativity. Can't never could do anything.

Any questions?

Dave

 

[viscousmemories]

Any questions?

Nope, no questions. I overlooked the fact that he had actually plagiarized posts here for more than one post on my forum. Thanks for clarifying that.

Incidentally, having the gracious permission of the author (even after the fact, as in this case) makes no difference to whether passing someone else's words off as your own is plagiarism. Not that plagiarising someone in a debate on the Internet is the end of the world, I just think it's weak. Particularly after implying that your discursive opponent had plagiarized and with a lead-in like "[...] I guess it's time to tear your linked post a new *******". Usually them fighting words are followed up by some original thoughts, especially from a 'skeptic'. Or so I would think.

But in any case while I understand your being proud that your arguments were judged valuable enough to plagiarize, I think if you want to really lay claim to having come up with some effective arguments you should join the thread at Galilean Library and defend them against davidm's rebuttals. It's written right into the rules there that you have to make an earnest effort to back your arguments up, though, so you should be prepared to do so.