• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Merged Peace President invades Venezuela,/U.S. Forces Capture Maduro

Dr.Sid said:
Russia can totally take Baltics. All it needs is Trump to leave NATO. And he will.
Click to expand...
Maybe Russia could, four years ago. But they can't now, those capabilities are spent. And I don't think you understand the force disparity between Russia and NATO. NATO doesn't need the US to kick Russia's ass.
Dr.Sid said:
No, China won't take out Taiwan's leader. You keep making up stuff in your mind and then reacting to it. Try reading what's actually being said.
Click to expand...
Then what's this going to do to encourage them?

Nothing. Again, they need no encouragement, they need no justification. All they need is the capability. Which this operation does not change.
 
Resume said:
And somehow he's not president anymore.
Click to expand...
And in just over three years, Trump won't be either.

But just as Obama was able to use the military without Congressional approval, so too will Trump be able to. Because it is not actually any different. Presidents get to do that. Maybe they shouldn't, but they do. This wasn't the first time, it won't be the last. Get used to it.
 
Ziggurat said:
Maybe Russia could, four years ago. But they can't now, those capabilities are spent. And I don't think you understand the force disparity between Russia and NATO. NATO doesn't need the US to kick Russia's ass.

Then what's this going to do to encourage them?

Nothing. Again, they need no encouragement, they need no justification. All they need is the capability. Which this operation does not change.
Click to expand...
Ok, I let you argue with yourself ..
 
Resume said:
Obama, Obama, Obama! But her e-mails, e-mails, e-mails! Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!! ◊◊◊◊ me, you guys are easy.
Click to expand...
He wasn't the only one. Clinton also used the military without Congressional authorization. So did Reagan. The opposition party always complains (be they Dem or Rep), but nothing happens. Presidents do it. Trump isn't peculiar in this regard. Whine all you want to, but that's the reality.
 
JayUtah said:
Mineral extraction on Venezuelan soil used to be conducted largely by U.S. oil companies. When Venezuela nationalized its petroleum industry, U.S. companies lost their mineral rights. The Trump regime is literally trying to argue that Venezuela's oil is somehow still rightly U.S. property.
Click to expand...
Just like Saudi Arabia, then. When are we going in to kidnap MBS?
 
Bush the Younger campaigned many months, went to the UN, went to Congress, amassed a collation, spent many billions, and 4K+ American KIA for regime change. Trump just does it in several hours with no American KIA. He really is a stable genius.
 
Last edited:
Trausti said:
Bush the Younger campaigned many months, went to the UN, went to Congress, amassed a collation, spent many billions, and 4K+ American KIA for regime change. Trump just does it in several hours with no American KIA. He really is a stable genius.
Click to expand...
The two events cannot be compared in terms of difficulty. Compare this to Reagan's invasion of Granada. A small country that is close to the US with a relatively small armed forces and no direct links to other hostile countries.
 
Dr.Sid said:
Also lets judge the outcome when it's finished.
Click to expand...
The majority of deaths and injuries and cost happened after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Even if the invasion of Venezuela is relatively benign there is still going to be an expensive minimum deployment to "run" the country. Trump has said he's not going to immediately hand over control to a democratic process because he won't control that ourcome.
 
a_unique_person said:
The two events cannot be compared in terms of difficulty. Compare this to Reagan's invasion of Granada. A small country that is close to the US with a relatively small armed forces and no direct links to other hostile countries.
Click to expand...
Well, certainly, the US was apparently aided here by the Venezuelan army's absolute unwillingness to die for a socialist dictator.
 
a_unique_person said:
The majority of deaths and injuries and cost happened after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Even if the invasion of Venezuela is relatively benign there is still going to be an expensive minimum deployment to "run" the country. Trump has said he's not going to immediately hand over control to a democratic process because he won't control that ourcome.
Click to expand...
But Biden left the USA broke! And Venezuela is a ◊◊◊◊-hole country and broke also. So how is Trump going to afford to run two whole countries?

He could sell both the oil tankers he stole, maybe. Should nett a couple of million, maybe ten. That should go a long way to helping, I'll bet!

I know! They could sell all the drugs they recovered from blowing up the "narco boats"! ....waddayamean, nothing??
 
Trausti said:
Well, certainly, the US was apparently aided here by the Venezuelan army's absolute unwillingness to die for a socialist dictator.
Click to expand...
Trump hates Venezuelans in the US. Venezuelans have suffered from decades of extreme right wing and left wing governments. It is impoverished despite its oil wealth. Trump wants the oil but not the people.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom