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Pat Robertson... Really? Reallyy????

While I am certainly willing to get butthurt about nothing at the drop of a hat, I must say that as a habitual user of ad-blocking web browser plugins, you seem to have a PEBKAC problem.
Yeah, my first thought was why don't you have ad-blocking installed.

What's PEBKAC?
 
What's the limit in this case?

Mods?
As FL:

Advertising on the Forum has nothing to do with the Mod Team so it's not actually a matter for what this section is meant to deal with - it's a JREF issue. I'll move this thread to the JREF section.
 
Penn and Teller must be rolling in their graves.

Wait, Penn and Teller are dead?

And the front page topic on JREF itself is an 'MMA expert'

A few people have asked, but you still don't seem to have answered why exactly you think this is a problem. The whole point of the interview is that he is fighting against the woo that exists in martial arts. Why would you consider that a bad thing?
 
Little control when using Google Ad Sense. Google tries to match ads to the subject of the page be it pro or anti woo. Click on the ad and the advertiser pays per click. Conversely JREF get some of that money. Or do like most do, ignore the ad. Or, turn JREF into a pay to use site, no ads. Simple.
 
Breach of rule 12 removed.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles


If you have a problem with Penn and Teller's episode exposing the Martial Arts for the woo-woo it is, take it up with them.

If you agree with Pat Robertson and what he stands for, then defend it here.

That doesn't address what Wolfman wrote at all.
 
Little control when using Google Ad Sense. Google tries to match ads to the subject of the page be it pro or anti woo. Click on the ad and the advertiser pays per click. [...] Simple.

Ads which don't really match the site are often the most effective. For example, someone looking for some "wooful" product might land on one of the JREF pages and, not being interested in learning the real facts about the product, will see an ad for the product and click on it.

I'd, of course, prefer that the woo-friendly visitor discover the truth, but, if they aren't interested in reality, at least they may help support the JREF by clicking on an ad.

-- Roger
 
If you have a problem with Penn and Teller's episode exposing the Martial Arts for the woo-woo it is, take it up with them.

If you agree with Pat Robertson and what he stands for, then defend it here.

I think you may be a bit ignorant of MMA in general.

MMA has done more to dispel woo in one area faster and more completely than anything I can actually think of. It is a continuous and open MDC challenge that does not require lengthy negotiations on protocol. :D

One of my favorite "experiments" can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I

The reality of these experiments hits hard!
 
Comparing MMA to Martial Arts is like comparing... Olympic Wrestling to WWE Wrestling... (I can't really think of a good analogy, just believe me, they are different.)

I'm not really sure I understand the analogy, since MMA is just one of many Martial Arts. Some Martial Arts can include a fair amount of woo, but that depends to a large degree on the teacher. Where one teacher may invoke Chi as the explanation for why something works, another may use biomechanics for the exact same technique.
 
I'm not really sure I understand the analogy, since MMA is just one of many Martial Arts. Some Martial Arts can include a fair amount of woo, but that depends to a large degree on the teacher. Where one teacher may invoke Chi as the explanation for why something works, another may use biomechanics for the exact same technique.

I said it was a bad analogy in the quote! :D

Also, I was referring to MMA strictly in the UFC sense.

You take the good things from every different discipline, use what works, and you throw the rest away
 
I like to think of it as ironic when the woo seller ads end up here. Surely it is the last place these companies wanted to advertise in return for the money they are paying for ad placement.
 
Maybe I'm missing the banners or something but I didn't see anything about Regent University.

Also...

If you have a problem with Penn and Teller's episode exposing the Martial Arts for the woo-woo it is, take it up with them.

I'm pretty sure that Penn and Teller have more important things to do than discuss martial arts with me. However...

1. I'm a big fan of Pen and Teller. I've seen them in person, talked to them once (which was awesome) and bought several of their videos and books.

2. I've seen the martial arts episode and though I have enjoyed and agreed with a lot of what they said in previous episodes, I didn't agree with this one.

3. I teach Karate and Ju-Jitsu, generally in a woo free atmosphere. :)

I disagree with their rationals for their conclusions and I think the episode was deliberately loaded with flakes in order to demonstrate their point in an artificial fashion.

Hopefully I don't have to agree with everything they say to be a fan. ;)
 
The current one on the index page looks suspect. It offers everyone a job paying good money. They do not specify doing what. However they charge you $29.95 per month.

Edit. Headline "Make money from home"
 
I have been getting adobe creative suite 6 for students and teachers for weeks now. My computer is boring. I think if you post outlandish stuff you make it angry.
 

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