Pat Robertson has cancer

Qsource...Those theist seem to think there is no experience bad enough for others to go through in order to change them.

They picket funerals of murdered gays, shouting that the victim is in hell suffering for his sins.

They blame the victims of the twin towers. It is their fault god allowed them to die.

They harass, beat, even kill those that would not heed their warnings. They think it is alright to murder a doctor to put their anti abortion views forward.

They are the first to step up and denounce someone's suffering as their own fault. Should they be immune to the ridicule if they suffer? Why are god's rules different for them then others?

It is too bad but Robertson will not suffer. He has enough money for the best care in the world. He will continue to lead his life as he does now, formenting hatred for others and scamming the poor and vulnerable. Check www.geocities.com/capitolhill/7027/quotes.html and find some interesting tidbits of things Robertson has said and done.

Denise asked in another thread "Where is the compassion?" Certainly not on its way from me to him.
 
FFed said:

What does that have to do with anything? Like I said. I hope he dies. I am not one of those persons that will say only good things about a total idiot once they die. This world would be better off without people like him. Should I have to change my opinion of him since the guy has cancer?

It seems that some people are just scared to admit they would like to see some people dead.
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Well I assume that there are reasons why you think he should die?

And I assume from the person he seems to be that he would say similar things about people like you?

And that is the reason why you think he is an idiot thus don't care if he dies?

And the reason why he would think you were an idiot and thus wouldn't care if you died?

So there is no appreciable different between him and you :(

Sou
 
Q-Source said:


Are you the same Hazelip I know?

It does not matter what people believe or not. Why would we laugh at his pain ?

Many people assume that theists or paranormal gurus are stupid or evil just because of their beliefs. Maybe in some cases it is true. But do they deserve to get a bad lesson in order to change?
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I don't really give a damn if he, or anyone else, gets a lesson out of it. I loathe that man, his hatred, and condemnation of people for being unlucky enough to be in the WTC at the wrong damned time.

I just would like to watch him whither away and experience the same pain of chemotherapy my "sinful" aunt did.

Since there isn't a god to judge us, I get to do it to some random jackass like Robertson every now and again. ;)
 
He should go to one of Benny Hinn's concerts get up on the stage and let Benny go to work on him,good old Benny cures everyone. :confused:
 
You know it's funny, I am not as infurated by Pat as I am with Benny...if he was the one with cancer I might've actually laughed about it...

Goodboy said:
He should go to one of Benny Hinn's concerts get up on the stage and let Benny go to work on him,good old Benny cures everyone. :confused:
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Qsource...Those theist seem to think there is no experience bad enough for others to go through in order to change them.

They picket funerals of murdered gays, shouting that the victim is in hell suffering for his sins.

They blame the victims of the twin towers. It is their fault god allowed them to die.

They harass, beat, even kill those that would not heed their warnings. They think it is alright to murder a doctor to put their anti abortion views forward.

They are the first to step up and denounce someone's suffering as their own fault. Should they be immune to the ridicule if they suffer? Why are god's rules different for them then others?
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I don't like P.R. and I think that his teachings have prevented this country from moving forward, but in the interest of fairness, P.R. actually condemned the picketing of gay funerals. The only statement that P.R. ever made that I can agree 100% with is "Fred Phelps is a first class kook."
 
I feel sorry for him

He's just a human being. I don't much care how big a prick he is, he hasn't murdered or tortured anyone. He's just a religious leader who is about to find out first hand that he's devoted his life to an age-old lie.

That's kind of sad, don't you think?
-zilla
 
How do I see this....

When a con man, a fraud is convicted and goes to jail, we feel good because there is justice in action.
But some con man and frauds are smart enought to avoid justice. They pick subjects that are not punished by law. But the outcome for the victims is the same: Death, financiall loss, time spent and so on. Why should I not be glad if one of those frauds suffers?
 
Lucifuge Rofocale said:
How do I see this....

When a con man, a fraud is convicted and goes to jail, we feel good because there is justice in action.
But some con man and frauds are smart enought to avoid justice. They pick subjects that are not punished by law. But the outcome for the victims is the same: Death, financiall loss, time spent and so on. Why should I not be glad if one of those frauds suffers?
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But the thing is that the 'victims' generally don't consider themselves as such. It makes the situation a little different than somone like a bank robber...
 
jimmygun said:


They are the first to step up and denounce someone's suffering as their own fault. Should they be immune to the ridicule if they suffer? Why are god's rules different for them then others?
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I am really surprised. I still don't understand why you and Hazelip assume that religious people deserve suffering just because they believe in God.

God has nothing to do with this. I mean, the believer's beliefs do not make a person better or worse than you.

Q
 
Q-Source said:


I am really surprised. I still don't understand why you and Hazelip assume that religious people deserve suffering just because they believe in God.

God has nothing to do with this. I mean, the believer's beliefs do not make a person better or worse than you.

Q
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I didn't write that.

I wrote that Pat Robertson deserves pain and suffering. Not the clergy as a whole.

Cripes, could you even pass a basic reading comprehension exam?
 
Rikzilla...Check out the site I mentioned above and ask yourself if he hasn't tortured anyone. Read about his meddling in the middle east and ask yourself if his actions haven't killed anyone.

Think about the fear, loathing, and guilt he spreads and ask yourself if anyone has ever committed suicide or murder because of him.

While you are at it, write him a letter and ask him how much of his billions (yes, that's billions with a 'B') ever reach the sick and dying of the world.
 
He's going to the hospital http://www.pilotonline.com/news/nw0214pro.html

Apparently, "Robertson's surgeon pioneered laparoscopic prostatectomy in the United States."

He's already addressing the faith healing aspect, "Carolyn Maiorino, who leads visitors on tours of the CBN studios and prayer center, said she didn't view Robertson's illness as discrediting his faith-healing and fitness routine.
`God said that he would not keep us from corruption or destruction, but that he'd walk us through it,' Maiorino said. `None of us are exempt.'"

I pass his place everyday on the way to work, he's just finished adding a Liberal Arts building to his Regent U. It looks like he's wanting to expand into undergraduate education (to match his widely renowned law school . ;))

As much as I dislike the guy and his policies, I've watched a grandfather die of prostate cancer and don't wish that on anyone.
 
I'd prefer "lack of basic reading" than lack of compassion towards any human being.

Hazelip said:

I wrote that Pat Robertson deserves pain and suffering.
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I am not going to waste my time on anyone who is capable of thinking this way.

Good Bye.
 
Q-Source said:
I'd prefer "lack of basic reading" than lack of compassion towards any human being.
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Not to argue with you, Q-S, but just to clarify your position.

Is there anyone, living or dead, who "deserves" pain and suffering?
 
Tricky said:

Is there anyone, living or dead, who "deserves" pain and suffering?
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You got me there, Tricky. ;)

In a perfect scenario, nobody should deserve pain and suffering.
I find it difficult to wish that someone gets a painful illness.

In reality, I think that only people who consciously hurt others deserve to get the same pain and suffering back. But, this is subjective and as such it is not fair.

What do you think?
 
Tricky....Is there anyone living or dead that deserves pain and suffering?

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

We have Mr Paul Bernardo up here in a prison cell suffering and in pain because he can't get out and rape and murder anyone. Should we let him go? Maybe just for a little while?
 
Q-Source said:


You got me there, Tricky. ;)

In a perfect scenario, nobody should deserve pain and suffering.
I find it difficult to wish that someone gets a painful illness.

In reality, I think that only people who consciously hurt others deserve to get the same pain and suffering back. But, this is subjective and as such it is not fair.

What do you think?
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My question there was to accertain if you didn't think pain and suffering was warrented in this case, or if you simply thought it was never warranted. If it was the latter, then I wouldn't attempt to discuss it further.

And yes, it is a difficult thing to deal with. I will not deny that revenge is a powerful motive even in the best of us. For example, you may recall the Ira Einhorn case where a "new age guru" murdered a girl in Philadelphia, stuffed her body in a trunk and kept the trunk in his closet for two years. (A very dear friend of mine is the sister of the murdered girl). A rich friend got Einhorn out on bail while he was awaiting trial, and he promptly fled for Europe, where he remained at large for more than ten years. He was finally recaptured, extradited, tried and convicted, but I am still angry that he got to spend much of his life living a life of luxury (he had lots of rich friends) after commiting so heinous a crime. Yes, I admit, I want him to suffer.

Pat Robertson, on the other hand, has never commited an act so awful, but in the long run, he may be worse. He has influenced so many other people to hate and intolerance that one could make a case for him being worse than Einhorn. But I will not make that case. I believe Robertson thought he was doing good, even if I think he was doing the opposite.

Jimmygun
I was not being sarcastic, but trying to find out where Q-Source stood. However, I would say there is a world of difference between being deprived of your "hobbies" versus being in physical pain.
 
Tricky said:

Q
My question there was to accertain if you didn't think pain and suffering was warrented in this case, or if you simply thought it was never warranted. If it was the latter, then I wouldn't attempt to discuss it further.
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Me no understand what you said... sorry :confused:

I couldn't find any reason to wish any other people physical pain or torture in the way some posters have mentioned. No matter how much I hate that person or how much damage has caused. Really, it sounds foolish, but it is true.
It would be like putting ourselves in an irrationally position, where only we are exchanging roles.

Q-S
 
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