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Pan Am 103: Unaccompanied bag from Malta: Evidence?

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I saw them. I like the Rolf bait you placed. ;) Sorry I haven't been looking for me-bait or adding anything for a bit. This next week I'll work it up some more. I still say it should be Lockerbie specific instead of a Lockerbie section in an otherwise empty network. Feels weird, imbalanced. Can that be helped?
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Sigh. Where do I apply for 48-hour days?

Rolfe.

Well you could skim a bit off the tl;drs to offset other expenditures. ;)
 
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Sorry, also found this interesting, from above
Trail of the Octopus said:
Although the 'discovery' of an unaccompanied bag from Malta was seized upon as a breakthrough in the investigation, there were in fact 13 items of unaccompanied luggage on the flight. According to the minutes of the fourth international conference of police agencies called on 14 September 1989, to consider the new Libyan link with the bombing, this cast 'doubt on the total reliability of hand-written entries of the baggage handlers on the computer print-out', which had indicated only one such item. Details of the Malta connections were discussed, 'and it was explained that the bomb need not have been brought on in Malta, but must at least have come from Frankfurt'.

The pencil marks - aside from column heading notes and column indications (bottom), looking again is as I remember - two lines actually after the items above and below the mystery item, and nothing else. These themselves are interesting, being the late arrivals loaded at a differnt gate from all 109 other listed items. But these lines do also bracket 8849, as the item to look at. If the problem was only presumed as an unaccompanied bag, why pick on one in particular out of a dozen? And who really made these marks and when and why? It could be after they'd decided this one had particular significance, but that was only after investigators had it, right? And they aren't supposed to doodle on the evidence.
 
I still say it should be Lockerbie specific instead of a Lockerbie section in an otherwise empty network. Feels weird, imbalanced. Can that be helped?

Right now there are a lot of missing details to fill in on Lockerbie. But eventually it will stabilize or we will have exhausted our talents for finding new data. At that point, some of the Lockerbie researchers will want to move on to other topics until new evidence is revealed. Having the site framework and talent pool already in place will allow the site to quickly expand into the other topics.

It also helps the other way. The more researchers we gather working on other topics, the more likely it will be for one of them to stumble on some piece of missing information that fits in the Lockerbie investigation. I'm just not starting the other topics until Lockerbie is fleshed out.

Although our goal is to grow our user base as quickly as possible, we need to be selective initially on who we let in to limit vandalism until we have enough experiences users to patrol the site and keep it clean. For this reason, I request that you don't publish the site address but send it privately to those that you know have something to contribute.
 
Right now there are a lot of missing details to fill in on Lockerbie. But eventually it will stabilize or we will have exhausted our talents for finding new data. At that point, some of the Lockerbie researchers will want to move on to other topics until new evidence is revealed. Having the site framework and talent pool already in place will allow the site to quickly expand into the other topics.

It also helps the other way. The more researchers we gather working on other topics, the more likely it will be for one of them to stumble on some piece of missing information that fits in the Lockerbie investigation. I'm just not starting the other topics until Lockerbie is fleshed out.

Although our goal is to grow our user base as quickly as possible, we need to be selective initially on who we let in to limit vandalism until we have enough experiences users to patrol the site and keep it clean. For this reason, I request that you don't publish the site address but send it privately to those that you know have something to contribute.

D'oh! If a moderator reads this, it's cool to remove that link above, if possible?

You know it might be cool to get other issues going too, when the right person comes along, who might want to contribute in a certain area they're good with. EG, new member Gawdzilla might be excited to copy and paste some of his recent findings on Pearl Harbor, and I'd promise to not work on that category at all. ;) and if a few others with interests start working there, maybe we'd get some cross pollination, etc....

I'm not really hyped on it myself yet, with so much else going on. I think you're in the lead, and doing okay so far.

I found a new video - in German w/no subtitles. It's co-produced by Conspiracy Files Guy Smith, uses a lot of the same footage and sounds as that sneaky little video, but is significantly different. A number of Germans are interviewed and say some things I'm curious about. One in particular is Herr Manfred Klink, damals Leiter Terrorabwehr BKA, discussing Frankfurt Airport, I think. Actually 7:00-8:30 span he's in the middle of would be fascinating if there were an audio babelfish site. Interestingly, neither Frau Erac nor her printout were present in this produktion (visibly).

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7189474414697903771&ei=jb8US5LEBaX2qAOjxKXmDQ

10:03 the time zone difference is illustrated
Early on the breakup animation is awesome and terrifying
8:58 Siegfried Niedek is saying some things that must be relevant to this thread. Blast my provincialism.
 
I'll have a look at that later if I can, though my German isn't very reliable.

I noticed another little wrinkle about the Frankfurt end. Coleman notes that the stuff the BKA finally passed on to the Scottish police in August included a report about the baggage records at Malta dated 2nd February 1989. That's even earlier than I'd thought, and suggests they were actually inteviewing the Malta personnel in late January.

Given that Bogomira came out with her printout between 20th and 25th January (Jones having visited Frankfurt airport on 23rd January if that's relevant), they must have spotted the orphan bag and its possible origin almost immediately. And leaped into action.

This is all extremely odd. No reports at all of police activity in Frankfurt airport in the week or two following the crash - despite the airport being on a state of high alert as regards the threat of Semtex disguised in suitcases at the time, and the Frankfurt connection being noted right from the get-go.

Press reports that police had visited the airport within a few days of the crash do not appear to be substantiated by anyone who was actually there.

The crucial baggage records apparently discarded despite the high alert, the recognised Frankfurt link of the doomed flight and the police supposed to have swooped. Bogomira's supervisor is remarkably laid back about all this, even asking her to check a file to see if there are any more printouts, but nobody ever describes a systematic search for such records.

Reports that the baggage records had been discarded never explain who by and how and how the hell that could possibly have happened under the circumstances. Jones reports finding the cupboard bare on 23rd January, but doesn't say what explanations he was offered.

Bogomira comes forward with her printout, probably just after Jones's visit, and the police immediately grab it and start acting like real detectives. Somehow, they already have the handwritten records they need to make sense of the printout and identify that there is a bag recorded which seems to have come from a flight from which no passenger joined PA103A. Wouldn't these records be part of what Jones complained was missing? Where and when did they get these?

Within a week or so they have it sewn up, they've got all the information about the loading of KM180 at Luqa (which was still available a month after the crash even though there would have been no particular reason to have suspected Malta in the initial stages), and presumably have noted the paradox that there was no unaccompanied bag on that flight.

That's early February.

In March the Scottish police go to Malta in response to finding the blue babygro, but as the manufacturer (in Malta) has supplied 500 different retailers all over Europe, they despair of identifying its provenance and come home empty handed. Note that the Frabnkfurt police had the information about the orphan bag and KM180 at this point, but they hadn't told the Scottish police.

In August, six months after identifying the possible connection with KM180, the Frankfurt police finally pass this information on to the Scottish police. Why the wait? Once they'd done the clever detective work, why not display it proudly for everyone to see at the earliest possible moment? What was going on in these six months?

The Scottish police apparently decide that this means the clothes were bought in Malta as well as being manufactured there, and return to investigate local retailers. This is actually a non sequitur, but never mind. The field thus narrowed, they find themselves talking to Tony Gauci on 1st September.

There are links in this chain we do not have. How many different manufacturers were there? How was Mary's House identified as the probable retailer? Who first raised the issue with Tony Gauci and when (because I don't think the 1st September statement represents first contact)?

But the main mysteries at the moment are the events immediately after the crash and what the hell happened to the originals of all these records, and why did the BKA sit on their detective work for more than six months, during which time the Scottish detectives made a fruitless visit to Malta following a different lead? (Surely the necessity of interviewing potential witnesses as early as possble would have been recognised - if that information had been shared, in theory Tony Gauci could have been interviewed about the mystery shopper within a couple of months of the purchase.)

It's looking less and less likely that Bogomira's printout is a fake, but I just don't know what's going on here.

Rolfe.
 
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Feb 2, huh? That's the same day they "first" inquired at Frankfurt Main as well. I dare say you got that mixed up. Chapter 7 seems the right spot, but it's not there. As the only bolded line, I reckon I ought ta tell ye.

Otherwise tho awesome points. But nothing new without a 2/2 Malta hop.

I just spent ten minutes looking for a transcript (Abschrift) of that show and didn't find one. Any helpful German-speaking members here care to transcribe or summarize?
 
You're right, I had got mixed up. I read "the airport" as Luqa, but you're right, "the airport" in that context is Frankfurt.

I'll quote the passage properly.

On 17 August 1989, eight months after the disaster, Chief Detective Superintendent John Orr received from the BKA what was said to be a computer print-out of the baggage-loading list for Pan Am Flight 103A from Frankfurt to London on the afternoon of 21 December 1988. Attached to this were two internal reports, dated 2 February 1989, describing the inquiries that BKA officers had made about the baggage-handling system at the airport. Also provided were two worksheets, one typewritten, the other handwritten, that were said to have been prepared on 21 December by airport workers at key points on the conveyor-belt network.


I don't think this advances the story much. Bogomira came forward (let's say) on 24th January, as a result of hearing about Jones's enquiries on 23rd January when he found all relevant records missing.

Maier gives Bogomira's printout to the BKA without significant delay. The BKA then make enquiries to try to establish the significance of the entries in the printout. The reports they wrote about this are dated 2nd February.

These reports draw on information from the handwritten worksheet at station 206, and the interline writer's records. There are clearly more documents being consulted during this process, as reference is made in the court judgement to alternative explanations involving containers of baggage from Damascus and Warsaw.

So when did the BKA get these documents? You suggested they got them when they visited the airport after receiving Bogomira's printout, I suggested they got them earlier, because on 23rd January all documentation had apparently already vanished. If these documents were still available at the airport in the last week of January for the BKA to find then, A. why didn't Jones find them on the 23rd, and B. why the hell had all this stuff not been hoovered up in the first week anyway?

Is it really conceivable that the BKA didn't go near Frankfurt airport until after Bogomira came forward with that printout, in spite of all the alerts about suitcase bomb-making at Frankfurt, and the early identification of the plane as "PA103 from Frankfurt to New York"? Is it really conceivable also that nobody at the airport took any initiative to preserve the baggage records under those circumstances? They do have security people in airports, I believe!

So by 24th January everything important had just vanished in the normal course of events (except, could you just have a look in the drawer and see if anything else has been kept?), but when the police arrived for the first time a few days later, they fortuitously found a few scraps of paper still in existance that allowed them to interpret Bogomira's printout and identify a connection to KM180.

Oh, come on. That can't be the situation.

Rolfe.
 
You're right, I had got mixed up. I read "the airport" as Luqa, but you're right, "the airport" in that context is Frankfurt.
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So when did the BKA get these documents? You suggested they got them when they visited the airport after receiving Bogomira's printout, I suggested they got them earlier, because on 23rd January all documentation had apparently already vanished. If these documents were still available at the airport in the last week of January for the BKA to find then, A. why didn't Jones find them on the 23rd, and B. why the hell had all this stuff not been hoovered up in the first week anyway?

I also haven't seen evidence Jones, a Pan Am security guy, was looking at anything other than Pan Am files. All he said to the Maltese Double Cross was
I went to Frankfurt airport on 23rd of January 1989, to look for documents in relation to the preparation of Flight 103 from Frankfurt to London, and particularly the cargo and baggage loading plan, who was responsible for loading the plane and what their duties were, but these documents were missing from the daily file. … If the original documents had been taken by the authorities, and by that I mean the police, then it would be normal practice for a copy to be retained in the Pan Am file.

He may have had a wider mandate as well, or started looking to the FAG's records after this drawn blank on Pan Am's records for the flight in question. I don't think this counts as evidence the airport's own records were missing at the time. The central file was long gone of course, but for paper records, we can't say where these were.

Is it really conceivable that the BKA didn't go near Frankfurt airport until after Bogomira came forward with that printout, in spite of all the alerts about suitcase bomb-making at Frankfurt, and the early identification of the plane as "PA103 from Frankfurt to New York"? Is it really conceivable also that nobody at the airport took any initiative to preserve the baggage records under those circumstances? They do have security people in airports, I believe!

I'm just quoting that for the duh-bunker-types who can't be bothered with this case. There must be a lot of people at this forum aggressively not reading these threads while pretending it's all too silly to consider. Judges said guilty coz of evidence! Conspiwacies aren't real coz of Watergate! They get exposed coz cant keep secwets! Except here this one is being exposed right here and they'll insist it's just not so.

Can some one please have the spine enough to step up and tell us this is conceivable, in any meaningful way? Why would the BKA be unable to get this data until Bogomira handed over her odd souvenir? Doesn't this all make nice neat sense in some way we're missing? People jump to debunk fake moon landings crap and 9/11 holograms so why withhold the medicine for this ridiculous conspiracy theory?
 
It's not making sense as a complete fabrication. The evidence you turned up from Malta shows the BKA really did do as they said and followed up the Malta lead in February 1989. This definitely knocks out the suggetion that the Maltese connection could have been dreamed up and put together in the summer of 1989.

The evidence that we're seeing supports what Bogomira has been saying all along. That she was personally interested in the crash because it literally happened on her watch, and so made that printout the following evening. However, she didn't see it as her responsiblilty to run around securing evidence, and she didn't see anyone else doing that either. However, in the latter half of January something (Jones?) prompted her to take the printout to Maier.

At that point there is no (0) evidence of any police visit to the airport baggage handling facilities. This has been so little regarded that Maier actually asks Bogomira to check the drawers in case there's anything else lurking there, which suggests no police swoop he knows about. He takes the printout to the police, probably fairly promptly. At this point the police do get off their backsides and do some detective work, and by 2nd February they have identified luggage tray 8847 as apparently having come off KM180.

They then trot off to Malta and get hold of the evidence surrounding the loading of that flight. Which just happens to be present, not discarded, and shows no realistic possibility of an unaccompanied bag being on that flight.

They then sit on this for six months, before sending what they've discovered to the Scottish police on 17th August.

They haven't been ignoring terrorism in the mean time though, because in April ....

The Trail of the Octopus said:
[....] two of Khreesat's missing bombs were found in the basement of the greengrocery business run by Dalkamoni's brother-in-law in Neuss. As if this were not embarrassment enough for the BKA, one of the bombs exploded while it was being disarmed, killing a technician. The other was then deliberately destroyed 'for safety reasons', thus denying the Lockerbie investigators possibly vital forensic evidence


I don't understand why they didn't turn over Frankfurt airport in December 1988. And I don't know why they sat on the evidence they did manage to assemble for six months - six months in which Tony Gauci's memory would inevitably become less reliable. And I don't quite follow where the other Khreesat bombs some in, was this part of the PA103 investigation, or a completely different game being played?

At the kindest, the BKA were grossly negligent and then dilatory. And it was pure chance that handed them what seems to have been a vital piece of evidence. But then it seems to have been equally pure chance that the apparent link to Malta which was seized on was itself coincidental and really represented a bag unconnected to the explosion.

I still think there's some dirty work going on though.

Rolfe.
 
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Would Jones have visited Frankfurt had he not anticipated records would be available to him? Was he told that the records had been secured, only to show up at Frankfurt and be told the BKA had siezed them and he was denied access? If, as we're told, that records were lost due to them only being retained for upto a week, would Jones as someone aware of Airport procedures, have even considered it in any way viable to seek records beyond 28th Dec? Jones visited Franfurt at the end of January and these records were not made avaiable to him, thereby suggesting the records had been secured but just not made available to him.

As a technician, who was working on the day of the 103a left frankfurt, and in fact, had delt precisely with loading records (given Mrs Erac's account, and her immediate thought on hearing the news, this would appear so) of 103a, would it not seem reasonable for any LE to request Mrs Erac assist them with any records recovered in the days subsequent - before she went on holiday? She was a technician after all, with many years of experience in airport computer programming. It was on her 'watch' that 103a was loaded and even she was aware of the implications of the crash from the very first report. We're supposed to believe neither her supervisior, anyone involved in Frankfurt security nor the BKA, had any inclination of the significance of PA103A?...
 
Here's the appropriate part of the documentary that gives Jones and Phipps's accounts.

The Maltese Double Cross said:
Michael Jones, Pan Am security, London
I went to Frankfurt airport on the 23rd of January 1989 to look for the documents in relation to the preparation of Flight 103 from Frankfurt to London, in particular the cargo and baggage loading plan, who was responsible for loading the plane and what their duties were. But these documents were missing from the daily file.

Denis Phipps, former head of security, British Airways
The records at Frankfurt, they were by no means complete. One was not able to get hold of the detailed records. Particularly what concerned me was there was no record as to who unloaded that flight KM 180, when it arrived at Frankfurt. We don't know who the loaders were. There was no record of the number of the bags that were actually unloaded from that flight. There were no records that I could find.

Michael Jones, Pan Am security, London
If the original documents had been taken by the authorities, and by that I mean the police, then it would be normal practice for a copy to be retained in the Pan Am file.

Narrator
In 1993, Air Malta wins its libel suit against Granada television. Granada, in a docudrama, had claimed the bomb had been placed in an unaccompanied bag on an Air Malta flight.

Denis Phipps, former head of security, British Airways
At Malta, the records of the handling of that flight KM 180 were made available for me to see. There was no evidence of any unaccompanied bags. All of the bags that were carried as passenger baggage on that flight had been checked in by a passenger who actually travelled on the flight.

Narrator
When in October 1989, the FBI visited Frankfurt airport, the agent sent back this telex to Washington: No evidence of any bag transferred from an Air Malta flight. The only evidence showing a transferred bag, a computer printout used to prepare this German police report. An airport employee, Mrs. Erac, claims to have stored in her locker a copy printed off the destroyed original computer tape.

Denis Phipps, former head of security, British Airways
The computer printout does not say where the bag came from. They tried to tie that bag to KM 180 from the worksheet which was maintained. And as we found, the worksheet is completely unreliable and in any case, even if you accept that the worksheet was approximately right, we have nobody that can account for, or was in charge of, or can tell us who or how those bags came from the actual aircraft, KM 180 to that coding station. And for more than one kilometre while they were in there waiting, those bags were under nobody's control or supervision. They were not counted. We don't know how many should be there. And it would have been possible to put another bag in there along any of that route or at any time.

Michael Jones, Pan Am security, London
I have never seen any documentation whatsoever produced by Pan Am or anybody else that show there was any interline baggage from an Air Malta flight on the 21st of December, 1988.


This is tantalisingly incomplete. The first thing I'd like to know is, when you couldn't trace the documents you were looking for, who did you ask about this? And what was their explanation for that state of affairs? Note that Jones doesn't believe the situation was consistent with the police having seized the records, though.

This view seems to be supported by Phipps's experience at Malta. When he visited Luqa, which must have been after the BKA were there in February, the loading records were still available for him to see.

Notice that they're not really talking about the missing computer files at all. Jones is talking about the tarmac loading plans for PA103A, which never surfaced. These would not have been part of the computer files,they would have been paper records as far as I know. Phipps is talking about the comparable records for the unloading of KM180. Again, they never turned up.

And yet the worksheets from the coding stations turned up, and the interline writers records. Exactly what was necessary to support the suggestion that 8849 came off KM180, but the records that might have shown that it wasn't unloaded from that plane, or that it didn't get loaded on PA103A (or if it was, identify it as something innocent), never surfaced.

What is actually going on here?

Rolfe.
 
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Would Jones have visited Frankfurt had he not anticipated records would be available to him? Was he told that the records had been secured, only to show up at Frankfurt and be told the BKA had siezed them and he was denied access? If, as we're told, that records were lost due to them only being retained for upto a week, would Jones as someone aware of Airport procedures, have even considered it in any way viable to seek records beyond 28th Dec? Jones visited Franfurt at the end of January and these records were not made avaiable to him, thereby suggesting the records had been secured but just not made available to him.


I hope that bit of The Maltese Double Cross I posted is helpful. The records that were "only retained for a week" were the files on Bogomira's rinky-dinky little computer system. This was because the storage meda were over-written by a new batch of files. (Even so, we have evidence from the designer of the system that there should have been backups retained - that's somewhere in Robert Black's unsearchable blog, I could do with a specific link to it.)

The rest of the bumph was supposed to be filed. Like it was in Luqa. Jones expected the Frankfurt files to be there, even if the police had been to call, because he knew that SOP was to keep copies of anything the police removed. (And this makes sense - any airline would want to know what it was the police had taken, in order to look after its own interests, just as Air Malta did.)

I'd just love to know who he asked about these missing files, and what the explanation was. I'd also like to know about what else was missing - was it just the paperwork from these specific flights that was gone, or what?

As a technician, who was working on the day of the 103a left frankfurt, and in fact, had delt precisely with loading records (given Mrs Erac's account, and her immediate thought on hearing the news, this would appear so) of 103a, would it not seem reasonable for any LE to request Mrs Erac assist them with any records recovered in the days subsequent - before she went on holiday? She was a technician after all, with many years of experience in airport computer programming. It was on her 'watch' that 103a was loaded and even she was aware of the implications of the crash from the very first report. We're supposed to believe neither her supervisior, anyone involved in Frankfurt security nor the BKA, had any inclination of the significance of PA103A?...


We don't know how big a team dealt with that baggage. Maybe Bogomira was only one little cog in the wheel. Nevertheless, there's no record of anyone being asked. Within her account there's no mention even of awareness of any investigation going on.

Now I don't know exactly when Bogomira went on holiday, but I don't think it was 23rd December (Friday). She speaks of a "New Year" holiday, and she didn't get back until 14th or 15th January. My guess is she was there until 30th December or thereabouts. On 28th December a press report is already saying that the BKA visited Frankfurt airport "last week". Really? And Bogomira didn't notice? And when they found the records were already missing, there was no general call to see if anything at all might have been retained?

That press report makes it quite clear that the involvement of Frankfurt airport was generally recognised only a week after the crash. And sooner than that, the very first radio news reports actually gave the impression that the plane was a direct Frankfurt to New York flight. There's absolutely no reason for the police not to have swooped on Frankfurt airport within hours.

This is the same police force that knew about Jibril and Dalkamoni and Khreesat, and the Toshiba barometer bombs, and had put Frankfurt airport on alert for exactly such a device coming through. Less then eight weeks previously.

Now we have an exploding airliner, out of Frankfurt (even at one remove), and even if the warning bells aren't ringing first go out of the box, it's identified as being a bomb very quickly, and being in a suitcase that was in a container that largely contained baggage from Frankfurt by early January.

Are we seriously expected to believe they didn't go anywhere near the airport until after Maier passed on Bogomira's printout in late January? And yet, if they did go, why didn't they secure these missing records, or if the records were already missing, why didn't they turn the place over?

It still looks to me very much like a clean sweep of everything relevant, including backups, and leaving no copies, followed by selective release or discovery of only the parts that will support the "8840 came from KM180 and was loaded on to PA103A" theory, while continuing to suppress any items that might contradict this.

And I don't see how that could have been done without the police at least being involved.

Rolfe.
 
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http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com/2009/05/from-sunday-times-malta.html
Unnamed FA system desginer guy

Glad you covered the week-held records. The central file is all this refers to, the digital one held in-system. No mention anywhere of how long tape or disc backups were held. No mention of them at al in fact.

Paperwork was kept for records at other spots (coding stations) - and we'd presume at the planes - loading and unloading. Both Phipps and Jones found papers at this point missing later on, so apparently taken. I'm not sure how long there would normally be kept on file. Jones seemed to expect a copy still there when he looked and he'd know the procedures.

And Rolfe, I'm confused that you've mentioned Malta and February together twice again. Was there some other evidence for that? I do suppose it's possible they'd go there anytime after 2/2 and putting papers together, to check into the origin end of that one unaccompanied bag among a dozen.

On that video, I don't know if they're saying anything amazing, probably not, but it would be an addition either way. I'm going to start pestering some Germans or sumthin.
 


Thanks for that. I feel a wiki article coming on.

And Rolfe, I'm confused that you've mentioned Malta and February together twice again. Was there some other evidence for that? I do suppose it's possible they'd go there anytime after 2/2 and putting papers together, to check into the origin end of that one unaccompanied bag among a dozen.


Buncrana's find, a couple of pages back in the thread. Transcript from the original court case against Pan Am in the early 1990s. I don't know where he found it.

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Refutation of plaintiffs' supposition was permitted from Wilfred Borg, the general manager of ground operations for Air Malta, one of the few witnesses produced by defendant whose testimony was admitted:

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Q Let me show you what we have marked as Exhibits HF-1 through HF-15 in evidence. (Handing.)

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A Thank you.

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Q Looking at those exhibits, Mr. Borg, have you ever seen them before?

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A Yes, I did.

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Q Would you tell the ladies and gentlemen what those documents are, the whole package?

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A That is the flight file or the ship's papers for Flight KM-180, destined to Frankfurt in Germany on the 21st of December 1988.

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Q When did you first see this particular flight file?

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A I saw this flight file, the first time, in February '89.

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Q What were the circumstances under which you saw the flight file at that time?

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A Our office in Germany had received a request from the German police requesting us whether we had any passengers or baggage connecting to Pan American flights out of Frankfurt.

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They said they were investigating this, they wanted this information in view of the Lockerbie incident in December, '88.

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Q And what did you do with respect to their request?

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A The request was passed along to me by our office in Germany.

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I requested the manager responsible to keep these records, to give me this relevant flight file. I went through it and gave the relevant replies to the German police.

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Q What were those replies?

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A We had no passengers connecting on the flights out of Frankfurt.

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We had no baggage destined to go in flights out of Frankfurt.

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And, we had no unaccompanied luggage on that flight.

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Tr. 5991-92.

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Q. Now, sir, based upon everything that you've read and all the investigation that you did, are you able to tell this jury whether or not there was an unaccompanied bag on Flight 180?

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A. No, there was no such bag.

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Q. Were there any bags destined for Pan Am, any Pan Am flights?

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A. No, there are no bags.


Reading that in detail, it looks as if they just asked for the evidence to be sent, rather than visiting in person. At the moment, it's all the same to me. The point is that the BKA in Frankfurt were looking for the records from KM180 in February. Independently verified. So they didn't dream the idea up in July,

On that video, I don't know if they're saying anything amazing, probably not, but it would be an addition either way. I'm going to start pestering some Germans or sumthin.


Let me know if you have any success.

Rolfe.
 
Here's the relevant part from the Black blog, which is from the newspaper The Times of Malta. The date is 10th May 2009.

The expert who helped design the baggage system in place at Frankfurt airport in 1988 and familiar with the operating software has now said: "The Lockerbie judges got it wrong, they simply got it wrong."

In the original trial, the Crown could offer no evidence of how the bag got aboard the Air Malta flight in the first place. Malta had presented records showing that no unaccompanied baggage was on the Air Malta flight in question.

The baggage reconciliation system at Malta's airport did not only rely on computer lists. Personnel also counted all pieces of baggage, manually checking them off against passenger records. Maltese baggage loaders had been prepared to testify, yet they were never called as witnesses.

In spite of a lack of evidence that the baggage containing the bomb actually left Malta, the judges concluded that it must have been the case, based on an interpretation of the computer print out from Frankfurt.

The hotly disputed computer printout was saved by Bogomira Erac, a technician at Frankfurt airport. She testified at the original trial under the pseudonym Madame X. One of the reasons this computer printout was so controversial was that although Ms Erac thought it important to save, she then tossed it in her locker and went on holiday.

Only on her return did she hand it to her supervisor who gave it to the Bundeskiminalmt (BKA), the German Federal Police. The BKA did not disclose this printout to Scottish and American investigators for several months.

The German expert has now examined all of the evidence that related to the Frankfurt baggage system placed before the court in the original trial. The expert, who agreed to review this evidence on condition of anonymity, spent six months examining the data.

Although he demanded anonymity, he agreed that if a formal approach was made by Mr Al-Megrahi's lawyers or the Scottish Criminal Cases review commission, he would meet them.

He was puzzled when he saw how short the printout out was and explained that there was no need to print a very small extract from the baggage system traffic, as a full back-up tape was made. This would have shown all the baggage movements at Frankfurt airport that day.

When it was explained that the court heard that the system was purged every few days and that no back-up tape existed, he said: "This is not true."

"Of course it is possible no back-up tape was made for that particular day but that day would have been the first and only day in the history of Frankfurt Airport when not one piece of baggage or cargo was lost, rerouted or misplaced," he added.

He went on to say that FAG, the company that operated Frankfurt Airport, needed these tapes to defend against insurance claims for lost or damaged cargo.

The expert maintains that even with his expert knowledge of the system he could not draw the conclusion reached by the Lockerbie trial judges in 2001.

"They would have needed much more information of the baggage movements, not this very narrow time frame," he said.

Questions are now raised about why Mr Al-Megrahi's legal team at the trial in the Netherlands decided to accept and rely upon a report on the baggage system compiled by a BKA officer and not find an expert on the system. The Scottish police also did not seek to interview those people who designed and installed the system.


The plot gets even thicker.

Rolfe.
 
Oh yeah, Borg, I remember that now. Sometime in February, sure, after the 2nd the BKA would be able to (roughly) know which bags were unaccompanied after checking coding stations and times to see which flights these items probably came from and compare it to passenger transfers. So they'd ask Air Malta, presumably some other air lines. Nothing about visits, just info called in via Germany to Malta and passed back by phone it seems. Okay.

The date would also seem to confirm the BKA did have the printout like they say at that time, and also shows they weren't just sitting in it at first - they first found out it pointed to a dead end. Then somewhere in the next months, what happened is that became okay somehow.
 
Here's the link to details of the original PanAm case detailing admissions which were denied to PanAm by the court - http://openjurist.org/37/f3d/804

Unless someone can provide a plausible argument supporting the theory that not one solitary German policeman or anyone from any number of security agencies involved at an airport, thought about any of the records relating to 103a, and according to what was revealed in Court and articles contained here, is it reasonable to assume that is most likely not fact?

We have an unnamed expert stating records should have still been available, even after the week as claimed. We have Khreesat. We have AVE4041. We have initial reports that the crash over Lockerbie was a flight from Frankfurt. We even have the media reporting that the investigators are at Frankfurt, and obviously Heathrow, within days.

On Tuesday the 27th December, The Arizona Republic carried a report stating
The New York-bound flight originated as a Boeing 727 from Frankfurt, West Germany, with a change of planes at London's Heathrow airport. Federal police in West Germany and the commander of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist squad last week began investigations at those airports.

Link - http://plane-truth.com/Aoude/geocities/az3.html
 
I'm trying to think, if I was a BKA minion, and I had to follow up the printout that maier handed over, what would I do?

I'd need the other documents first, because it makes no sense as it stands. Do we have any information about where that came from? Any evidence of a BKA visit to Frankfurt airport in the last week of January? Or did they already have the documents from an earlier visit? I suppose the first thing I'd want would be the coders' worksheets showing which station was coding luggage from which flight at which time.

If I had these, and knew the key to the printout (for example that S0009 was station 206), I could get at least an approximation of which flight each of these 111 items came from.

I would also have a passenger list for PA103A (which I don't believe was missing), and a record of where each passenger came from. A good number of these bags would have come from the checkin desks at Frankfurt itself, and more would belong to passengers who weren't transferring to PA103 at Heathrow. These would have to be identified and ticked off, even though the main focus would naturally be luggage being interlined to PA103A and on to PA103.

Here's Coleman's version of this, which is the most detailed I can find.

The BKA estimate that 'about' 135 bags were sent through to the baggage room below the departure gate of Flight 103A, some belonging to the 79 passengers whose journey ended in London and the rest to the 49 who were going on to New York. There were no records of luggage sent directly to the departure gate, nor of interline luggage taken directly from one aircraft to another, nor of bags belonging to first-class passengers.

Of the 49 passengers bound for New York and beyond, 28 began their journey in Frankfurt, and 21 transferred from other connecting flights.

Of the 135 bags mentioned by the BKA, 111 had been logged on the Frankfurt computer and about 24 taken directly to the aircraft from three other connecting Pan Am flights. The list compiled by Pan Am at its check-in desks, however, showed not 111 but 117 items of luggage, and the discrepancy has not been convincingly cleared up to this day.


129 passengers
79 stopping at Heathrow, presumably unimportant because their luggage wouldn't be transferred to Maid of the Seas.
49 going on to New York

Of these 49, 28 came through the Frankfurt checkin desks.
The remaining 21 came from other connecting flights at Frankfurt.

So how would I, PC Plod, approach this? I suppose I'd start by excluding the checkin desk bags, because I couldn't prove anything untoward about any of these. (Though how I could exclude them as being the bomb bag, if I can't trust the x-ray screen, is another matter.)

I'm then left with all the connecting-flight bags, whether headed for New York or not. So, the bags of the 21 passengers coming from connecting flights and going all the way are presumably indistinguishable from the bags of the connecting-flight passengers who are getting off at Heathrow, at this stage. (Unless the BP and TO designations signify something, but I don't know about that.) That second group might be about 40 bags, possibly.

That gives me maybe 60 entries to check (or more, some passengers had more than one bag). My first move is going to be to look at the coding stations and times to see which flights these came from. I should end up with a list of flights that seem to have supplied baggage to PA103A.

I then need to look at the passenger lists to see which flights I know passengers transferred from. Presumably all this tallies, except for KM180. I then shout "I have you now, Mr. Bond!" and go tell the boss.

There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start. First, all these bags were x-rayed, so what are we assuming? That the x-ray examination was pointless? In that case any of the bags could have had the bomb in it. Including the ones checked in at Frankfurt, or any of the ones that came off a connecting flight apparently attached to a passenger.

And again, I don't know that item 8849 was tagged for New York - do I? I'm just assuming that was the case.

Have I definitely attached all the other bags to passsengers, or at least to flights with people on them who were headed to PA103A? Or are there any other items there that aren't convincingly attached to a flight with a passenger? We don't know.

What about the 24 other bags, or possibly more, including bags from three other PA flights, first class bags, and bags with short connection times? Have I any idea whether any of these might appear to be unaccompanied? I have not. And let's face it, that stuff is more likely to have excaped the x-ray.

Two things strike me here.

The expert maintains that even with his expert knowledge of the system he could not draw the conclusion reached by the Lockerbie trial judges in 2001. "They would have needed much more information of the baggage movements, not this very narrow time frame," he said.


Questions are now raised about why Mr Al-Megrahi's legal team at the trial in the Netherlands decided to accept and rely upon a report on the baggage system compiled by a BKA officer and not find an expert on the system. The Scottish police also did not seek to interview those people who designed and installed the system.


It seems to me there's far too little information here to conclude a damn thing. It's just the coincidence that this orphan item seems to have come from Malta, and the babygro had "Made in Malta" on its label that seems to have impressed people. Too much, I think.

Rolfe.
 
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By the way, I note that in several recent posts I've called Bogomira's supervisor Maier instead of Berg. Maier was the x-ray operator.

Apologies if I've confused anyone.

Rolfe.
 

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