Palin on SNL

[gdnp]

Damn uppity women. Next thing you know they'll think they are smart enough to vote and run for office.

Do you have a warehouse to store all your straw men? Or just lots of straw and old clothes so that you can build them one at a time?

 

[gdnp]

True. She did a little. But not really directly, but rather as a straight man. All she had to do was acknowledge the things being said. Granted, for her, that's a step in the right direction.

When McCain was on, he was genuinely funny and attacked the age issue head on with a mock PSA.

I am certain she was playing it cool, to avoid making more blunders. She didn't want to create a Rudy type legacy. Which, I always thought the ridicule he recieved was unfair. His cross dressing skit was great, and it humanized him in an important way at an important time.

One of the funniest political skits I recall on SNL had someone playing W (probably Will Ferrel) in the oval office. Civilians would come in and he would play the typical bumbling mispeaking folksy Bush, and as soon as they left he would switch to a no-nonsense decisive leader juggling three crises and barking orders at his subordinates. I suppose they could have tried the same thing with Palin--had her start quoting Shakespeare and Heidegger, then go back into "you betcha" mode--but that would have required considerable acting ability.

 

[RandFan]

Do you have a warehouse to store all your straw men? Or just lots of straw and old clothes so that you can build them one at a time?

I was mocking a dumb statement. I stand by it.

 

[gdnp]

I was mocking a dumb statement. I stand by it.

So was I. And so do I.

 

[gtc]

a straight man.

This is a shocking revelation about Palin.

 

[RandFan]

So was I. And so do I.

I'm not sure how but that's fine. My statement was no more dumb than the mockery on SNL.

BTW: How would you respond to "dumb Jew" or "dumb black"? Wouldn't mockery be appropriate in those instances?

 

[gdnp]

I'm not sure how but that's fine. My statement was no more dumb than the mockery on SNL.

BTW: How would you respond to "dumb Jew" or "dumb black"? Wouldn't mockery be appropriate in those instances?

Ah. So your criticism is to the "woman" part, not the dumb part.

In answer to your question, would you have been offended if someone referred to someone else as a "smart Jew" or a "smart black?" I would. Would you be offended if someone referred to someone else as a "smart woman" or a "talented woman"? I wouldn't. The English language has gender, and thus referring to a female as a woman does not, in most instances, imply to me that the entire gender is being insulted the way that the nouns "Jew" or "black" would be offensive in the same context.

 

[RandFan]

In answer to your question, would you have been offended if someone referred to someone else as a "smart Jew" or a "smart black?"

Not necassarily. No. Depends who said it and why they were saying it.

Would you be offended if someone referred to someone else as a "smart woman" or a "talented woman"? I wouldn't. The English language has gender, and thus referring to a female as a woman does not, in most instances, imply to me that the entire gender is being insulted the way that the nouns "Jew" or "black" would be offensive in the same context.

I don't buy it. I wonder if the women of the forum buy it. Do they find the notion of "dumb woman" offensive. I can damn well assure you I would avoid using such a term. Dumb person. Yeah. Guys don't usually go around announcing "gee, he was a dumb man". But dumb woman sure flows off the toung easily enough.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I don't see the term "dumb woman" as a slur against women at all. I think you conservatives are really digging deep just to be offended.

 

[Morrigan]

Damn uppity women. Next thing you know they'll think they are smart enough to vote and run for office.

That's not remotely what he was saying. He was saying that Palin is a dumb woman, which is true. He didn't say "all women are dumb".

I was mocking a dumb statement. I stand by it.

Your own statements are pretty dumb, really.

I don't buy it. I wonder if the women of the forum buy it. Do they find the notion of "dumb woman" offensive.

I am a woman and not remotely offended by his post (in fact, I agree with it, Palin IS a dumb woman). I am almost more offended by your notion that women are such easily offended sissies, really.

I don't see the term "dumb woman" as a slur against women at all. I think you conservatives are really digging deep just to be offended.

Yup. As I said in another post, they're bigger whiners than liberals/democrats in my experience.

 

[Tailgater]

This thread is hilarious. You guys are fighting over a comment made by a poster known for mild writing....uh.....problems, and now the last two posts are slapping labels on Randfan for an oversensitive comment as being "conservative". I didn't know the knee-jerk Jesse Jackson style of being offended (by what was thought to be a derogatory comment about women) equated to whiney conservative. Freaking hilarious. Carry on.

 

[Cicero]

Palin provides SNL with best ratings for the last 14 years. I thought Tina Fey was why people tuned in to SNL?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Tina Fey has never been as hilarious as she is when she portrays Palin. Palin is funny enough on her own, but we laugh AT Palin and with Tina.

 

[Snide]

You judge yourself on an interesting scale and I choose not to play.

For example, I have 3 intelligent and well-adjusted kids, all of whom will likely attend college and none of whom (thus far) have become pregnant. That is far more important to me than national fame.

"... and Mr. Youngman, I do not want to take your wife, as I already have one of my own..."

-Jon Stewart

 

[Cicero]

Tina Fey has never been as hilarious as she is when she portrays Palin. Palin is funny enough on her own, but we laugh AT Palin and with Tina.

Yet when Palin appears on the show, the ratings go through the roof. Did you laugh at Palin's put down of Alec Baldwin? Was "Baby Mama" Amy's rapping a rib tickler?
Your avatar suggest that your humor leans towards sophomoric.

 

[Disco]

Palin provides SNL with best ratings for the last 14 years. I thought Tina Fey was why people tuned in to SNL?

Tina Fey hasn't been a regular on the show for years. And the ratings were up for the Palin appearance because a whole slew of conservative viewers tuned in just to see her. They won't be watching future shows. In fact, several conservative viewers have written how offending the rest of the show was.

 

[joobz]

Yet when Palin appears on the show, the ratings go through the roof. Did you laugh at Palin's put down of Alec Baldwin?

Yes. it was quite funny.

Was "Baby Mama" Amy's rapping a rib tickler?

Not really. It was uncreative and rather expected.


Tina Fey isn't a reason to watch SNL. In fact, she isn't even a cast member.

The reasons to watch the current SNL.
Fred Armisen
Bill Hader
Will Forte
Darrell Hammond
Seth Meyers
Amy Poehler
Andy Samberg
Jason Sudeikis
Kenan Thompson
Kristen Wiig

The current cast is hilarious and all add something to the mix. I'm a bit reserved on the new people. they haven't done much in the way of being funny. This may have been simply poor writing, as this season has been weak so far. I believe the weakness comes from a conservative "playing it safe" attitude. For instance, when Phelps was on, they reprized many of the skits that worked last season. however, Many skits simply do not warrent repeats. You can't be reserved on a comedy show. You need to take the risks and if it fails, oh well. At least you risked it.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Yet when Palin appears on the show, the ratings go through the roof.

Of course, it's because most people want to laugh AT Palin.

Did you laugh at Palin's put down of Alec Baldwin?

I chuckled a little.

Was "Baby Mama" Amy's rapping a rib tickler?

Yes.

Your avatar suggest that your humor leans towards sophomoric.

Your posts suggest that your politics are sophomoronic.

 

[Mercutio]

One of the funniest political skits I recall on SNL had someone playing W (probably Will Ferrel) in the oval office. Civilians would come in and he would play the typical bumbling mispeaking folksy Bush, and as soon as they left he would switch to a no-nonsense decisive leader juggling three crises and barking orders at his subordinates. I suppose they could have tried the same thing with Palin--had her start quoting Shakespeare and Heidegger, then go back into "you betcha" mode--but that would have required considerable acting ability.

Odd... I remember a skit like this with Reagan, long ago. I do not recall seeing the one with W. My question... did they re-do the exact same skit? A different version? Am I mis-remembering? Are you?





Of course, cool as the question is, I am far to lazy to actually do any work to find out the answer.

 

[gdnp]

Odd... I remember a skit like this with Reagan, long ago. I do not recall seeing the one with W. My question... did they re-do the exact same skit? A different version? Am I mis-remembering? Are you?

Nope: I think you are right. It probably was Reagan. Especially since I haven't routinely watched SNL since the Reagan era. Interesting how memory can play tricks. The skit would have worked with either, but I doubt they would have redone it for the new era.