Palin Goes Rogue on Vegans

Tricky said:
It's an old old joke, meant to make her look folksy and funny. It is not a serious comment. This is incredibly unimportant.
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Indeed.

Her carnivore obsession makes me almost hope for an invite to dinner. Good meat, cooked and served by a meat lover.

Almost. The air fare to Alaska would so increase my carbon footprint that I"d be felling guilty for far too long to actually take the trip.












"Ya gotta be kiddin' Darth responses in three, two, one ...

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Whiplash said:
With all due respect, she is a vindictive ass for poking fun at Vegans? If that's even what she was doing? She said she'd make them a salad, and then hit them with a joke that supports eating meat, not picking on Vegans.

And yet, have you heard the way some militant vegetarians speak? Are you sure you have your vindictive meter pointed in the correct direction?
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Frankly, I am a vegan. So I take it personally, since it's directed at me. I don't think that "poking fun" at any group is becoming of someone who wants to be everyone's president, but when you couple that with her disgusting aerial wolf hunting, she is a person with little regard for not only animals, but for people who don't share her provincial, bigoted views (such as her extreme religious views).

And she's a vindictive ass for all the vindictive things she's done like working to fire her ex-brother in law but this comment is just unnecessary for anyone who wants to be a leader. I expect it from Ted Nugent, but he's an ass too.
 
Sarah Palin said:
“I always remind people from outside our state that there’s plenty of room for all Alaska’s animals — right next to the mashed potatoes.”
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Damn, I read that and involuntarily winked at the end of it. :eek:

To be to fair though, it's actually kind of funny. :)
 
Let's face it. Sarah is playing to her audience. People who hate her are going to be offended by anything and everything she says. She's not going to lose a single one of her supporters by making this joke. The real joke is on the people who harp on trivial stuff like this rather than paying attention to her policy positions. (She does have policy positions in the book, right?)
 
Creativity is a sign of intelligence. She has shown no creativity that I can see here. She just recycles talking points and jokes, sometimes nihil appropos to the situation. Why does she include such comments in a book which one would expect to clarify what she had tried to tell America?

Was that twit ever really in the room?
 
I think it shows a rhetorical style (and a way of thinking) no more elaborate or nuanced that the genre of bumper stickers.
 
I think she'll become the new, wilder, Martha Stewart. Less doilies; more butchering.
 
While I don't agree with the "moral" arguments for vegetarianism/veganism and find the animal right movement to be obnoxious, I find Palin's handling of this hypothetical situation to be rather impolite.

When you have got guests coming over you obligated to make their visit as pleasant as possible. Since I have pets, I ask if they any allergies and inform them of my dog and two cats and keep a bottle of antihistamines handy or see if my sister or mother can take them in for the night. If I'm serving food, I ask if they have dietry requirements and/or restrictions. If so, I grin, bear it, and serve them what they want. I don't lecture them on validity of their beliefs or expect them to accommodate mine. That would be rude.

But, I suppose "hospitality" is not one of the traditional family values the Right is always carping about.
 
I really think too much is being made of what must have been a facetious passage. I'd read the book to find out for sure, but, I'm, um... washing my hair. Yeah.
 
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Meh. I rip on Vegans a lot but I also have a grill that has never had meat nor fish on it for my vegan friends at BBQs.
 
Meadmaker said:
I'm surprised how many people have never heard those jokes.

What about the claim that "vegetarian" is an American Indian word for "bad hunter"?

Or, upon looking at the salad, "That's what food eats!"

ETA: And there's always the PETA Website.
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I am also surprised no one has heard it before.

I am astounded that people would think it was an actual directive from God.

ETA: were you perhaps thinking of www.pweeta.org?

Yummy. Yummy. Yummy.
 
Mark A. Siefert said:
While I don't agree with the "moral" arguments for vegetarianism/veganism and find the animal right movement to be obnoxious, I find Palin's handling of this hypothetical situation to be rather impolite.

When you have got guests coming over you obligated to make their visit as pleasant as possible. Since I have pets, I ask if they any allergies and inform them of my dog and two cats and keep a bottle of antihistamines handy or see if my sister or mother can take them in for the night. If I'm serving food, I ask if they have dietry requirements and/or restrictions. If so, I grin, bear it, and serve them what they want. I don't lecture them on validity of their beliefs or expect them to accommodate mine. That would be rude.

But, I suppose "hospitality" is not one of the traditional family values the Right is always carping about.
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But come on, if she said it as a joke?

Assume for a moment, she actually prepares them a very nice salad, and then gives it to them, and without any other form of preaching, just to "lighten the mood", she tells this very (admittedly stupid) joke. Is that so insensitive?

Telling a dumb, folksy joke is "lecturing on the validity of their beliefs"? It couldn't even possibly be seen as an attempt to disarm the situation a bit with some playfull humor? Again, assuming that is all she said, and it continued on with any further mention of the subject?

I would think a person would be more insulted by the stupidity of the joke itself, than they would think "she's attacking my vegan beliefs!!". I can totally see how this (if it even would ever happen) could play out in a friendly and laughing manner (or at least polite laughter with odd glances). At least amongst people who aren't extremely uptight. :)

ETA: I am assuming the only part that would be pertinent to the meal would be the first of two quotes in the OP. I assume the second quote is her own defense of her beliefs into the book as content for the reader.
 
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Puppycow said:
Tricky, I'm a little confused. Didn't you start a thread called "Sexy Sarah, what have you done?"

I guess that kind of stuff is important while this is trivial? ;)
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Correct. That was because Sarah was making a serious statement about sexism in the media. It was not a lame joke. However hypocritical it was, it was a statement about her policy on sexism. The anecdote in the book was not a statement on anything really. It was just a joke intended to please her supporters.
 
I saw that quote and stopped reading after she claimed to be a "carnivore." That joke is beyond lame -- something from a fifties soft-back on public "roasting." The other one's better (i.e., "next to the mashed potatoes") but I strongly suspect it's an Alaskan reworking of someone else's joke. But those are criticisms of the book she didn't write. Palin is scandalously stupid; her astonishing support among right-wing nut jobs demonstrates that about 15-20% of the people in this country are beyond reason.

Matt Damon got it exactly right when he said her candidacy was like a bad Disney movie. The hockey mom from Wasilla becomes President!
Palin to a room full of suits: "Oh, I know we can balance the budget. It's just like goin' to the grocery n' spendin' on whatchya need. Cut coupons, buy in bulk, get things that are on sale."
 
Whiplash said:
But come on, if she said it as a joke?

Assume for a moment, she actually prepares them a very nice salad, and then gives it to them, and without any other form of preaching, just to "lighten the mood", she tells this very (admittedly stupid) joke. Is that so insensitive?
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Well yes, if the vegan takes their beliefs seriously. Puppycow's link is right on [well the actual thing linked too is repulsive imo, but his point is right]. Since Palin is pro-life, and I'm pro-choice, should I start with one of those fetus jokes to "lighten the mood"? How do we know the vegan holds her views (of animal's inherent rights or "soul" or whatever, if that's why they're a vegan) any less seriously or personally profound than Palin views abortion?

Starting with a joke is indeed making light of the situation, passing it off as not serious at all. You don't (or shouldn't) see any serious debate about the Palestine-Israeli conflict starting with jokes about ovens and camels.
 
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Vegans need to get a sense of humor. And a bacon cheeseburger.

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. And don't try the veal, it's made from baby sheep.
 
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