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Ouija boards-the final word!

Azrael 5

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Azrael 5
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Im currently in discussion on Supernatural world forum regarding Ouija boards(URL at the end)and I wondered if any claims had ever been tested scientifically.Or a test set up and results published.
I would have thought it would be so easy to do,that someone must have done it. ;)

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Don't know about any scientific tests, but my mate likes to tell of a "séance" her family held in the 1960s. Her sister's query concerned whether to buy some rock album or other. The board unerringly spelled out "saveyourmoney," clearly demonstrating that living spirits can affect the planchette as well as the deceased -- maybe better, even.

BTW, I believe the final word on Ouija would be at the bottom center of the commonest modern variety board, right beneath the digits...







"goodbye" =^_^=
 
Penn and Teller did a nice little trial on their Showtime program "Bullsh!t", where the subjects tried the board out once. They tried it a second time, blindfolding the subjects and, unbeknownst to the would-be diviners, turning the board upside-down. It was a great illustration of the psychological fmechanisms behind this phenomenon.
 
I saw the penn and teller show where they debunked the board and I thought they did a piss poor job at it. the weirdos that they got to endorse the board said speciffically that the spirits must channel through the host people so their ability to communicate (i would think) would be based on the perceptiions and senses of the hosts.
a much better test would have been to give the spirit a pop quiz and see how they do. I have seen similar tests done on a randi endorsed show where a psychic went into a house and made contact with a ghost of a house that has been noted as haunted by a speciffic spirit. he had to guess the name, sex, way of death and give some sort of insight to the spirit. all psychics failed miserably
 
I tried one once many years ago with a few people including a wiccan. Nothing happened at all the thing didnt move 1 centemeter. Even after I removed my hand and left only true believers at the helm nothing moved.

My studies show that spirit boards fail 100% of the time.
 
I tried one as well when I was a kid. Of course, nothing happened at all. This despite the fact that several adults told me not to tamper with the spirits, woooooooh!. Too bad, a chat with Elvis or Hitler would've been worth the wood of the board, but as things turned out it seemed more suited for firewood on a rainy day.
 
...fun for superstitious kids (scared my sister pretty bad with it once when we were quite young), but I haven't found them (with my limited experience) to have any truth at all.
 
I posed the question on another forum,that seeing as though a ouija board is a man made object then why can't we contact spirits via leather jacket or wardrobe!! Reasonable I thought.
Didnt go go down too well. :p
 
reasonable? What did you think was reasonable about it? If you are going to pose a question or challenge, at least be thoughtful and intelligent about it. Otherwise you make it easy for the believers to debunk you!

My studies show that spirit boards fail 100% of the time.
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What would those studies entail? Any evidentiary proof?
 
they always worked for us, you unbelievers!!

you aren't the proper conduit obviously...

oh, and a side note...I'm convinced my little wild-eyed Jehova Witness friend was pushing the damn thing around.

We were both about 13.
 
Moondragon69 said:
they always worked for us, you unbelievers!!

you aren't the proper conduit obviously...

oh, and a side note...I'm convinced my little wild-eyed Jehova Witness friend was pushing the damn thing around.

We were both about 13.
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My brother and I tried one when I was about 10. Didn’t move at all. We sat there despondent for weeks while the pointer gave us nothing. Then, a friend from next door, who had done it successfully with his buddy, came by.

Presto. Instant spirits. That pointer was zipping around like a live wire.
 
Good morning.

I am hoping to use one in an upcoming seance I plan on doing for fun. Does anyone who has gotten results with one, have a suggestion on the type of board to use for the best results? In the Darren Brown seance show he used a board with lettered cards in a circle and a overturned wine glass. Will this move as easily as a regular out of the box ouija board bought from a toy store? Does the look that the plain board with cards add to the feeling and atmosphere? To me it looked more impressive but I'm not the one who will need to believe in it.

JPK
 
How to tell the difference between a human moving it and a spirit(according to SNW member)Quote]When spirits move glass it glides,when human moves it..it moves![/quote]
Who needs science?
Incidentally I cant seem to find an impartial site anywhere that debunks Ouija board or has done any double blind type tests on it.Most sites from Google tend to give both sides of argument.Not much use. :)
 
Most sites from Google tend to give both sides of argument.Not much use.
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So Azrael I find your comment a bit odd. Don't you WANT both sides to an argument? It sounds like all you want to do is find a site that supports YOUR beliefs....hmmmmnnnn doesn't sound very fair or objective to me......:confused:
 
kip said:
So Azrael I find your comment a bit odd. Don't you WANT both sides to an argument? It sounds like all you want to do is find a site that supports YOUR beliefs....hmmmmnnnn doesn't sound very fair or objective to me......:confused:
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Scientific evidence is what I want,Kip not tall stories.There is no evidence offered for believers point of view,only accounts of what supposedly happens. ;)

kopji how can I read the actual papers/tests listed on that link?
 
But the ideomotor effect can't always be what moves the tumbler/planchette.

What about when the tumbler moves about and no-one is touching it ?
 
jambo372 said:
But the ideomotor effect can't always be what moves the tumbler/planchette.

What about when the tumbler moves about and no-one is touching it ?
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mayday and jambo back on forum! Must be Xmas! The tumbler moves on its own? When did you see this? Wasnt Eugene Burger's show was it? :p
 
Azrael 5 said:
mayday and jambo back on forum! Must be Xmas! The tumbler moves on its own? When did you see this? Wasnt Eugene Burger's show was it? :p
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Somebody I know made a Ouija board of their own about 30 years ago and the tumbler went flying off the unit and smashed against the wall. There was a group of 3 and no-one touched it.
 
jambo372 said:
Somebody I know made a Ouija board of their own about 30 years ago and the tumbler went flying off the unit and smashed against the wall. There was a group of 3 and no-one touched it.
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So its anecdotal.You weren't even there.Next!
 
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