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Merged Osama bin Laden dead,

thaiboxerken said:
We could avoid more nonsense bickering by simply asking what Dorian meant.
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We don't need to appeal to what he meant. We can evaluate what he said. And what he said was not "Al Qaeda attack" but "terrorist attack". If he meant "Al Qaeda attack", then that's what he should have written, and it's his fault, not mine, that I based my response on what he wrote and not what he meant.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Why? You can't fast rope off of an Osprey quite like you can off of a helicopter. That is one of the Osprey's unfortunate limitations.
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It's faster though which would come in handy for smash and grab when you've got to worry about the pakistani airforce taking an interest.
 
Ziggurat said:
We don't need to appeal to what he meant. We can evaluate what he said. And what he said was not "Al Qaeda attack" but "terrorist attack". If he meant "Al Qaeda attack", then that's what he should have written, and it's his fault, not mine, that I based my response on what he wrote and not what he meant.
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That's a nice way to say "I'm going to ignore the context."

And for that, I thank you.
 
geni said:
It's faster though which would come in handy for smash and grab when you've got to worry about the pakistani airforce taking an interest.
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I understand that quite well, thanks. If you look at the compound, and what was needed for the raid, you might find that the Black Hawk was the better platform. Depends on how you intended to do the insertion and extraction drill.

Granted, the speed would be nice, but that isn't the only criterion for selecting a mission platform.

(IIRC, the spec ops Black hawks have air to air refueling probes, I'd need to check up on that.)

I suspect there were other assets on call if the Pakistanis tried to interfere, but I don't know that for a fact.

I also suspect a phone call was made to the leader of Pakistan, at the suitable time, advising him and his forces not to interfere. Don't know that for fact, or not, either.
 
bin Laden's been dead and on ice for 10 years, this is a hoax, a psy-op. Notice how it was released at a moment crucial for the re-election of President Obama. They had to "keep him alive" to support those wars, now that there are other boogeymen seared in our minds they can use his body as capital. Man what would we do without Alex Jones on our side in the infowar.

Exclusive: 'Bin Laden Dead' Hoax Exposed
 
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Darth Rotor said:
I also suspect a phone call was made to the leader of Pakistan, at the suitable time, advising him and his forces not to interfere. Don't know that for fact, or not, either.
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That would contradict a few public statements.
 
Joey McGee said:
bin Laden's been dead and on ice for 10 years, this is a hoax, a psy-op. Notice how it was released at a moment crucial for the re-election of President Obama. They had to "keep him alive" to support those wars, now that there are other boogeymen seared in our minds they can use his body as capital. Man what would we do without Alex Jones on our side in the infowar.

Exclusive: 'Bin Laden Dead' Hoax Exposed
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Besides that utterly stupid video without actual evidence, what other proof do you have?

Alex Jones is an idiot, though that probably goes without saying.
 
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AdMan said:
Besides that utterly stupid video without actual evidence, what other proof do you have?

Alex Jones is an idiot, though that probably goes without saying.
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I am pretty sure he doesn't actually believe that.
 
AdMan said:
Well, that's heartening, certainly. :)

Not helpful to spread that trash, though.
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Well it's definitely good for a laugh anyways. I also saw "This will be one of the most important broadcasts of the Alex Jones Show." and they were telling people to spread the word about this legendary and important broadcast. It is amazingly stupid.

I'm assuming that we'll get some video and pictures soon, can't see that not happening. Of course they can always fake bodies too... :rolleyes:
 
How gangster is it that Obama doesn't even mention any of this on his facebook? I'm been a pretty harsh critic of the Obama Administration but he's raised himself a lot in my eyes. Now just end the wars and fix the economy.
 
Dont know if it has been mentioned yet but I was just reading that they grabbed Osamas hard drive from his computer while they were there.

Actually more than that: "The assault force of Navy SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives and disks during their weekend raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound, yielding what a U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”

The special operations forces grabbed personal computers, thumb drives and electronic equipment during the lightning raid that killed bin Laden.
“They cleaned it out,” one official said. “Can you imagine what’s on Osama bin Laden’s hard drive?”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54151.html
 
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Ziggurat said:
No, we don't see that, you imagine it.
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I'm not surprised you would ignore the evidence rather than counter it with some evidence Bush was seriously looking for Bin Laden.

Tora Bora - what made Saddam so important?

Richard Clarke, testimony corroborated

DPB called "historical only" by Conde Rice

"Not that interested" Bush's own words

Ending the CIA task force, why? Because Bush thought other things were more important

Obama elected, reestablishes the priority, and you see the results.


So feel free to give your rebuttal EVIDENCE. But don't accuse me of imagining things. :(
 
Ausmerican said:
Actually I was expecting "Goat Porn" to be the first dozen answers.
Intel would be nice though.
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Considering they were being so careful about not communicating in any electronic format that might be eavesdropped on, if we indeed have some harddrives from that compound, they have to be a goldmine.
 
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