OS 0 1 2, Global Dialectic for the Internet

Oh ho! A little research goes such a LONG way, doesn't it?

Bubblebrain, I now know your real name and what you do for a living, although that wasn't going to be difficult, was it!

So here's a film review we can all share:
Oh, I suppose if your "Dark Side of the Moon" CD is scratched and you need something to accompany your herbal habit, director [bubblefish]'s self-important foray into meaningless nothingness would do in a pinch. Otherwise, "[name of bubblefish's film]" won't even open off-off-off Broadway.
So this notion of your own self-aggrandisement is not new to you, is it, bubblebutt.

Oh, I'm sorry - I'm calling you names again. Forgive me - childish, I know, but I'm having some (OS 0 1 2) playful fun with you, that's all.

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See what I mean, Hans? The trolls just dont get it.



Zep said:
What's to refute? There's nothing in them, so content-free posts need no refutation.

If there is no logic in one's phrasing, then it is simple to point out the contradiction.

Your claim that nothing is in them is unsubstantied by logic or reason, merely supported by wishful thinking and a strong desire to save face after your own contradictions were exposed.

What theory?

the theory that association or proximity to another human being somehow refutes the logical inference in my posts

I've given you facts. How you (fail to) address them is up to you, bozo.

I dont see how posting a seminar given by Dr. Lo supports that theory. Can you explain?

:
De-mystifying?

yes, it means removing the 'woo-woo' and providing a rational framework to explain a very old philosophical system that founded an entire civilization.

Taoist practices?

yes, taoist practices would fall under that guidline.

Formal proofs?

You havent provided any.

Boy, you HAVE got it bad, haven't you!

me? nah, I am doing great! i am about to be father in about a week or two, and have a few rather exciting projects on my table.

You do know that the Noetic Institute is (in)famous for its (lack of) scientific reputation versus its (outlandish) claims?

I understand that a few scientific materialists make that claim. But I am skeptical about all claims until I can verify them for myself.

It's a home for wannabe-famous-agains who have lost their marbles, but mainly a means of bilking the public out of money.

yeah, that's what some people say about Randi too, but I dont believe them any more than I believe you.


How much have YOU paid them recently, hmmm?

zilch. I dont know much about them, other than the founder is pissed that the film 'What the Bleep do we know' contained crappy science.

The list of "famous names" who have abandoned their former rationality in favour of laughable and clearly unscientific woo-wooism is far longer than you know.

hmm, that sounds like a conspiracy theory, care to elaborate on another thread?

Next you will be trotting out the one about Isaac Newton being a Creationist Christian.

Oh! Your making a prediction! I suppose if I do, that may make you eligible for collecting the million dollar prize...

Or Darwin recanting on his deathbed.

Nah, next I am going to go to sleep and laugh at how silly your irrational ideas read on a discusion forum.

But does this make your point any more valid?

Yes, the point I made to hans in my previous posts were that trolls never seem to get the message, and you validating it perfectly.



yes, it's true, your validating just about everything I have said about trolls

The stage is all yours to keep right on going demonstrating your inadequacies and delusions.

Doenst look that way to me, I have given you every oppurtunity to use simple rational exchange to explain your point of view, and, being a troll, you continue to use ad hominem, pictures, and other childlike forms of communication which apparently dont relate to anything that i have written in this thread so far in any meaningful sense.

You have already exposed enough of your own agenda here to have us tag you as a looney of the first water.

lol, well, my friend, trolls try to 'tag' anybody using ad hominem when they have nothing rational to contribute.

Y'know, bubblebrain, if you were in any way rational you would have produced proper references to Dr Lo's reputable scientific work in a flash...we got nothing.

really? how did you come to that conclusion? the title of the thread and my opening post laid out the grounds of the discussion and I asked simple questions and recieved rational responses from a few members.

i dont see how not getting what you want means I am irrational, can you explain?

lol, as if I was to hand you over the research papers of a accomplished theortical physcist you would have understood them anyway.

If you were serious about the JREF challenge (and Dr Lo should be - $1,000,000 sure beats $20 per head lecturing at a looney convention) you would have had an application in already...

really? your saying that when one has a serious intention, then they immedialty follow through on a resulting action without properly planning thier steps or finish other projects before hand?

I dont know, Zep, that sounds pretty impetious. I dont see how performing a task according to another persons value system = seriousness, can you explain?

again, nothing we know of, and plenty of paltry excuses why not.

oh, so sorry Zep, I know your excited, but didnt your parents ever teach you the value of patience?

As Hans has rightly pointed out, you are a verbally masturbating troll.

ahh, more mythological refrences. Apparently both you and Hans have quite a naughty imagination!
 
MRC_Hans said:
Bubblefish: Thanks for proving my point.



No worries, hans, no worries. your point about trolls was well taken, and if Zep didnt help me, well, I would not have been able to prove it!


yeah, your posts sounded a little tired, get some good rest my friend, and come back when you can post coherently!
 
You mean you DON'T know who the father is? And now you're picking TV actors' names out of a hat?

Oh deary deary me. How sad...
 
Oh ho! A little research goes such a LONG way, doesn't it?

It most certainy does, Zep! I look forward to your research on assosciative fellowships that interfer with logical communications!

Bubblebrain, I now know your real name and what you do for a living, although that wasn't going to be difficult, was it!

NO! since I posted a link myself on this very thread!

So here's a film review we can all share:So this notion of your own self-aggrandisement is not new to you, is it, bubblebutt.

Ahh yes, A bad review from film threat is certainly an honor. Can you believe that their favorite film at slamdance that year was about a clown assasin? hehe, what a bunch of boobs.

Oh, I'm sorry - I'm calling you names again.

Apparently that is all you have done.

Forgive me - childish, I know, but I'm having some (OS 0 1 2) playful fun with you, that's all.

and I with you my friend, and I with you!
 
Bubblefish said:
does someone need assistance?
Now you mention it, you have stated that Dr. Lo has published his evidence for the existence of qi in peer-reviewed journals. Could you assist us to find them by providing references, please?
 
Zep said:
You mean you DON'T know who the father is?


Well, i dont know the father of the 'porr poor' child. Is a 'porr poor' child a friend of yours? you would seem to assosciate with many children

And now you're picking TV actors' names out of a hat?

Ahh, I see your trying your 'remote viewing' trick again,eh? hehe, no, I just wrote the first name that came to my head, it seems to have done the trick and it appears to mimic your method of discussion.
 
Mojo said:
Now you mention it, you have stated that Dr. Lo has published his evidence for the existence of qi in peer-reviewed journals. Could you assist us to find them by providing references, please?

Google?
 
Oh, it's no problem for me. All I'm really doing is keeping my post count up by engaging in inanities with you. So in that way, you are doing me a service.

How long did it take you to make an 11 minutes film? Also, what is the Slamdance Festival?
 
Zep said:
Oh, it's no problem for me. All I'm really doing is keeping my post count up by engaging in inanities with you. So in that way, you are doing me a service.


Well I certainly dont mind being of service, and now we have identified the win win component in discussion!

Good show, Zep, good show!

How long did it take you to make an 11 minutes film?

hmm, that one took about three months, but not consistantly, I took time off allot in between.

Also, what is the Slamdance Festival?

Slamdance is a pretty big film festival in Park City, Utah that takes place the same time as Sundance film festival. Last time I checked, Slamdance was the number 4 most influencial film festival in the country. That same film, Penny Theatre, was in another festival, Digi Dance, at the same time, and won best short film.


thanks for asking. Can i put my clothes back on now?
 
Ah, we ARE in a question-answering mood now, are we? Good!

Can you provide a reference to Dr Lo's reputable publications, as requested earlier in this thread?

And can you show us any evidence of your application for the JREF $1,000,000 Challenge?
 
Who said this:
In a world of spirituality, there's a strong tendency for people to cross over the line from having an open mind to having a hole in the head.
 
Zep said:
Ah, we ARE in a question-answering mood now, are we? Good!

lol, and how long did it take you to come to that conclusion after I have been answering all questions you have asked me for the past 45 minutes?

Can you provide a reference to Dr Lo's reputable publications, as requested earlier in this thread?


First off, and this reply is serious and respectful, so please take it as such, I am not Dr. Lo's agent or publicist. If you cant find any of his work on the web, I dont have any to offer you.

He did say, and i informed you of this on the thread, that in a few months there is going to be something published regarding this current project in a peer reviewed journal, and when it is published, I will provide the links.

the man has something like 8 patents and a distinguished career, so if you disagree with him philosophically, at least respect his level of accomplishment as a scientist, and his cultural background (he is chinese, and taoism is part of his culture) and be patient. I can assure you no one is up to trickery or anything of the sort.

I am the one whom brought up Randi to him to see if he would do it, and he asked me to look into it and I came here to look into it. I am not a paranormal X files person, so this is how I choose to get more i nformation.

He asked me to discontinue the other discussion, as it served it's purpose and began to become a discussion irrelevant to the topic.

And can you show us any evidence of your application for the JREF $1,000,000 Challenge? [/B]

We are interested and intend, like I said, to move forward with the challenge, however, he has to finish what he is working on before we can begin, and I dont have much time now myself. Also, his current research is very professional, and he doesnt want to sully it with Randi hype. Already, someone on this forum contacted a collegue of his about all of this, I mean, come on, be a bit respectful, these are professional people.

It is our honest intention to do the challenge, but both me and him want to do it right. I am sorry, but I just dont blindly jump into things before a clear plan of action is arrived at. taking the challenge is a big deal, we dont take it lightly.

I am afraid that is all I can say on the matter.
 
Bubblefish said:
lol, and how long did it take you to come to that conclusion after I have been answering all questions you have asked me for the past 45 minutes?
You haven't answered a thing, you have simply corresponded. And I'm not surprised.
Bubblefish said:
First off, and this reply is serious and respectful, so please take it as such, I am not Dr. Lo's agent or publicist. If you cant find any of his work on the web, I dont have any to offer you.

He did say, and i informed you of this on the thread, that in a few months there is going to be something published regarding this current project in a peer reviewed journal, and when it is published, I will provide the links.

the man has something like 8 patents and a distinguished career, so if you disagree with him philosophically, at least respect his level of accomplishment as a scientist, and his cultural background (he is chinese, and taoism is part of his culture) and be patient. I can assure you no one is up to trickery or anything of the sort.

I am the one whom brought up Randi to him to see if he would do it, and he asked me to look into it and I came here to look into it. I am not a paranormal X files person, so this is how I choose to get more i nformation.

He asked me to discontinue the other discussion, as it served it's purpose and began to become a discussion irrelevant to the topic.
Ah, so he WAS reading it, and you were merely his mouthpiece. Fine. What can I say that isn't pointing out the bleeding obvious about who played who...

Bubblefish said:
We are interested and intend, like I said, to move forward with the challenge, however, he has to finish what he is working on before we can begin, and I dont have much time now myself. Also, his current research is very professional, and he doesnt want to sully it with Randi hype. Already, someone on this forum contacted a collegue of his about all of this, I mean, come on, be a bit respectful, these are professional people.

It is our honest intention to do the challenge, but both me and him want to do it right. I am sorry, but I just dont blindly jump into things before a clear plan of action is arrived at. taking the challenge is a big deal, we dont take it lightly.

I am afraid that is all I can say on the matter.
"WE" are interested? Is he seriously considering you as a partner in this little escapade? Or do you just think that's what he is going to do.

Would you care to buy a bridge? Also, did you know the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary?
 
Bubblefish said:
Michael Landon?:p
Bzzzt.

Try again.

Perhaps some research might be good exercise for you. Go on - try it! You'll like it!
 
Bubblefish said:
Can you believe that their favorite film at slamdance that year was about a clown assasin?

Cool!

A clown assassin! :jedi:


The first thing that makes sense in this thread.
 

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