Orang Pendek - dedicated thread

[Drewbot]

Oh please.... hobbits are fictional characters!

H fl. was a real critter. You know, the kind of critter, of which they found fossils and/remains.

 

[icerat]

H fl. was a real critter. You know, the kind of critter, of which they found fossils and/remains.

Yes, I'm aware of that.

If orang pendek exists, which I don't think is impossible, I do actually think it's possible it is or is closely related to homo fl., of which we have evidence existing as recently as 12000 yrs ago, practically yesterday!

More likely though, if it exists, to be more closely related to orangutans, which we know exist in the region right now.

Still, as I said, would be pretty amazing to find a living population of Homo fl.

One can live in hope!

 

[Drewbot]

I think the Komodo Dragons at them all.

 

[GT/CS]

You should have seen the Bigfoot posts by Swetyeti. More colour in one post than your eyes could handle. I put him on ignore because of that...and because he was mad.

He's back and just as mad colorful as ever.

 

[Sawbones79]

He's back and just as mad colorful as ever.

So, this is a common trait amongst the big ape believers circle? Considering that most of the pictures "enhanced" with arrows and suchlike are blurry, of very unclear origin etc., I don't quite understand what's proven by the arrows.

 

[carlitos]

Adding the arrows enhances the paraedolia, so you "know" what they want you to see. Like when people put captions in videos - it makes your brain think that folks are singing different words.

 

[Verde]

H fl. was a real critter. You know, the kind of critter, of which they found fossils and/remains.

I know that. We were just trying to inject a little bit of humour into what was looking like a stale thread.

My personal view is that Orang Pendek may well exist, but would be the least surprising of the current crop of cryptids. There is just no good evidence for it, so far.

V.

 

[Vortigern99]

Marduk -- Not that they can't speak for themselves, but it bears pointing out here that Parcher and Drewbot are bigfoot opponents, not believers. A casual persual of any of the Bf-related threads in this forum will avail you of that realization.

Of course facts are facts, and if you conclude that the cast under review is an orangutan's based on empirical data, so be it. But arguing with these guys as though they are BF proponents, and calling them "woos", is not only unhelpful and ad hom, it's patently false.

 

[Drewbot]

Thanks Vort, I am not an opponent of it, I would be happy for it to exist, but I don't think it is possible based on the lack of evidence of such a humongous beast.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, I wouldn't say I oppose bigfoot. I do not believe bigfoot exists. I do not believe any actual evidence of bigfoot exists.

I oppose bigfoot believers.

 

[Vortigern99]

Yes, I meant "opponent" in the sense of the opposite of "proponent"; ie, a person who opposes the idea that bigfoot is a real non-human/non-bear animal.

Definitions can be tricky.

 

[William Parcher]

Looks to be a pretty good summary of Orang Pendek lore in the Guardian today.

Second part of the article.

...a poacher who had set a snare for deer claimed to have caught an orang pendek. The powerfully built ape was struggling with the snare. The poacher tried to jab the creature with his spear but the beast smashed it to matchwood and screamed at him. The poacher fainted and when he awoke the creature had pulled itself free and was walking off into the jungle. It had long, powerful arms and walked erect.

 

[The Shrike]

I'd include that as Orang Pendek lore on par with a pig-tossing bigfoot in Texas.

 

[Cayvmann]

you'd better go educate this one then
[qimg]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/belmarduk/hand-2.jpg[/qimg]
apparently he hasn't listened to you either

now really, don't bother drewbot, I'm not interested in discussing primate foot morphology with a bigfoot bleever, I don't have the several years free it would take to cover all your erroneous beliefs
thanks for playing but, no, you'll have to get used to playing with yourself from now on

That certainly looks like it would leave the aforementioned paw print. Surely the orang knows it is knuckle walking the wrong way.

 

[William Parcher]

2011 CFZ Orang Pendek Expedition t-shirt is illustrated with the Georgia Bigfoot Hoax mask.

 

[William Parcher]

2011 CFZ Orang Pendek Expedition...

They found evidence right away.

The expedition concentrated its searches around Lake Kerinci and the "gardens" area in the lower elevation rainforest, both areas of previous sightings and secondary evidence. Whereas the "gardens" team returned with three partial footprints, the possible handprint, was found in the jungle surrounding Lake Kerinci.

The print is to be sent for independent analysis, but furthers the body of evidence for Orang Pendek. Unidentifiable hairs also found in the immediate vicinity are to undergo similar independent testing.

Upon completion, expedition leader Adam Davies stated "This was a really successful expedition. I am fortunate to have had such a determined and dedicated team and feel confident that the findings, once analysed, will help further verify the existence of Orang Pendek, whose habitat is under great ecological pressure."

 

[William Parcher]

We see the same suspicious in situ appearance as with Bigfoot tracks. A cleared area of the ground with a track.

1. Clear away debris exposing the dirt.
2. Make a fake track.
3. Find the fake track.
4. Pour plaster.

 

[The Shrike]

Malayan tapir footprint here. Looks superficially similar to me . . .

 

[The Shrike]

OK, I'm very near convinced that these Orang Pendek "handprints" are just forefoot impressions from tapirs. The size is right on. It might seem that one could not be confused by tapir prints because they have four toes on the front feet (three on on the rear) and the so-called handprints appear to show five "digits," but with some of these tapir prints it really does look like 5 digits in the impression. At the least it would be easy to innocently make out a fifth digit impression in some of those prints, and add a fifth oneself if ones intentions were a bit less honorable.

So, folks with better tracking skills then mine, where have I gone off the rails here? Am I missing something or is it obvious to you that these handprints are really just tapir prints?

 

[DennyT]

Yes; very similar in outline; are they similar in size?