Open Letter to Dave Thomas

[dafydd]

They leak air alright. Just takes time for it to do so. Remember seeing a car that's been sitting for a long period of time & the tires slowly deflate? Yup, not so air-tight are they!

The NWO steals the air.

 

[tsig]

http://www.vacuumsealerguide.com/

Vacuum-sealing is easy, effective and leaves the contents quite useable and if necessary RF accessible.

MM

The Explosives were vacuum packed? Must have made for delicate handling.

 

[triforcharity]

What did they use? NWO VACuSeal??

 

[A W Smith]

http://www.vacuumsealerguide.com/

Vacuum-sealing is easy, effective and leaves the contents quite useable and if necessary RF accessible.

MM

idiots
Do you not see how far down the rabbit hole you have gone?

When confronted with the fact that no explosions consistent with CD
Jones invents a thermite conspiracy hypothesis

When confronted with the fact that thermite cannot burn horizontally they come up with an obdcure patent of a fixture that would need to be the size of a living room sectional sofa surrounding each column

When shown how unfeasible this fixture is, they come up with a device the size of a 45 caliber Glock that just manages to go "pfffft" and cut a number 3 rebar. WOOP DE ****IN DOO! try that on a core column,

When shown that dogs can be trained to sniff out explosives they present the canard that the dogs were removed before 9/11

When it is shown that the only dogs removed were the EXTRA dogs that were assigned because of an increased threat level they claim dogs cant detect thermite.

When shown that dogs can be trained to detect any contraband that gives off a scent they claim that the dogs cant detect thermite in a sealed container

When shown examples of dogs detecting contraband in sealed containers and even if the container was sealed to to be impermeable there still has to be a fuse

When shown examples that dogs indeed can they come up with ****in VACUUM PACKING AND RADIO FUSES!

So the inside job conspirators would need to consider every single remote possibility of detection and design means to subvert detection.

But NOT just hijack planes and fly them into buildings.

I must say I really do enjoy every jackass from the truth movement coming here to post. Please keep up the excellent work twoofers. There is no need for debunkers. Just showing what colossal deluded idiots you are is enough to make even mention of a "truth movement" generate belly laughs from the public at large.

 

[cmatrix]

Mr. Thomas, despite having absolutely no evidence to support it, you believe in a theory in which all the considerable remaining resisting structure of WTC 7 buckled simultaneously over eight stories before the building entered free fall for 2.25 seconds.

In the .6 seconds prior to all four corners free falling straight down, all four corners of WTC 7 descended a whole of 2 feet from its original height. Are you not aware that buckled columns always have minimal resistance? That is, the resistance is never 0 and therefore a building whose columns all buckled simultaneously could never be in free fall?

Now if by some miracle the columns all simultaneously fractured in the middle and by some miracle also somehow managed to simultaneously sever all connections to the floors there could be free fall. How though can you claim that all columns would fracture by buckling down only two feet? What evidence do you have that these two miracles even actually happened?

Isn't science supposed to support the simplest explanation that explains all the facts as opposed to a highly complex explanation that explains none? Isn't science supposed to support an explanation with precedence as opposed to none whatsoever? Doesn't science require evidence not none at all?

Would you care to comment on these facts that point to the theory you unquestioningly believe in to be crackpot faith-based pseudo-science?

 

[triforcharity]

Mr. Thomas, despite having absolutely no evidence to support it, you believe in a theory in which all the considerable remaining resisting structure of WTC 7 buckled simultaneously over eight stories before the building entered free fall for 2.25 seconds.
In the .6 seconds prior to all four corners free falling straight down, all four corners of WTC 7 descended a whole of 2 feet from its original height. Are you not aware that buckled columns always have minimal resistance? That is, the resistance is never 0 and therefore a building whose columns all buckled simultaneously could never be in free fall?

Now if by some miracle the columns all simultaneously fractured in the middle and by some miracle also somehow managed to simultaneously sever all connections to the floors there could be free fall. How though can you claim that all columns would fracture by buckling down only two feet? What evidence do you have that these two miracles even actually happened?

Isn't science supposed to support the simplest explanation that explains all the facts as opposed to a highly complex explanation that explains none? Isn't science supposed to support an explanation with precedence as opposed to none whatsoever? Doesn't science require evidence not none at all?

Would you care to comment on these facts that point to the theory you unquestioningly believe in to be crackpot faith-based pseudo-science?

I have hilited where you went wrong.

You have been explained this before, many times. It's like we're watching you brush your teeth with buttcream, and we've told you, but yet, you still continue, and complain that your toothpaste tastes aweful.

Yet, you continue brushing with the buttcream.

 

[leftysergeant]

http://www.vacuumsealerguide.com/

Vacuum-sealing is easy, effective and leaves the contents quite useable and if necessary RF accessible.

MM

Most of them involve heat, which will damage RF detonators.

And what kind of idiot palnts RF detonators in a building with a huge active RF source more powerful than what he intends to use sitting on the roof of the building. Anybody too stupid to care about or even assess the danger would probably be too stupid to lay the charges correctly.

There is also the problem that just the residues airborn around your vacuum sealer would be attracted to the wrapper.

So we now have the dogs being decieved by meticulously clean morons and lunatics with a kitchen appliance. Bloody brilliant.

 

[grandmastershek]

So what do we have?

-Numerous examples of dogs beating out "air tight" containers, Cmatrix claiming they can't do that, and pretending all the evidence otherwise doesn't exist.

Could be hint as to how he approaches "evidence" in general.

 

[leftysergeant]

Now if by some miracle the columns all simultaneously fractured in the middle and by some miracle also somehow managed to simultaneously sever all connections to the floors there could be free fall. How though can you claim that all columns would fracture by buckling down only two feet?

Are you saying that buckled columns are supposed to be able to hold up a building without failing catastrpophicly? How far out of alignment must the entire weight of a column be before it breaks?

Show your work.

What evidence do you have that these two miracles even actually happened?

That free-fall occurred after the massive buckling began without a sound of explosives.

 

[DGM]

Mr. Thomas, despite having absolutely no evidence to support it, you believe in a theory in which all the considerable remaining resisting structure of WTC 7 buckled simultaneously over eight stories before the building entered free fall for 2.25 seconds.

In the .6 seconds prior to all four corners free falling straight down, all four corners of WTC 7 descended a whole of 2 feet from its original height. Are you not aware that buckled columns always have minimal resistance? That is, the resistance is never 0 and therefore a building whose columns all buckled simultaneously could never be in free fall?

Now if by some miracle the columns all simultaneously fractured in the middle and by some miracle also somehow managed to simultaneously sever all connections to the floors there could be free fall. How though can you claim that all columns would fracture by buckling down only two feet? What evidence do you have that these two miracles even actually happened?

Isn't science supposed to support the simplest explanation that explains all the facts as opposed to a highly complex explanation that explains none? Isn't science supposed to support an explanation with precedence as opposed to none whatsoever? Doesn't science require evidence not none at all?

Would you care to comment on these facts that point to the theory you unquestioningly believe in to be crackpot faith-based pseudo-science?

Do you believe (and contend) that there was no movement in the building before the "free-fall"?

 

[dc1971]

Nice try Dave. We all know you have never ever attempted to deal with the WTC 7 2.25 seconds free fall period because you can't. It is simply not possible to conform with both the official crackpot 9/11 theory and the laws of physics. You know that, at least unconsciously. You see no purpose in debating not because it's irrelevant or that it's been done before but because you simply can't win. Your position is one of faith not science and most certainly not skepticism.

Ahhh yes, I mentioned this in another thread about "Truthers being Troublemakers"!! This only reemphasizes that statement!

 

[dafydd]

I must say I really do enjoy every jackass from the truth movement coming here to post. Please keep up the excellent work twoofers. There is no need for debunkers. Just showing what colossal deluded idiots you are is enough to make even mention of a "truth movement" generate belly laughs from the public at large.

The rest of the world is not interested.We are the only ones who get the belly laughs.I look forward to my daily visit here to see what nonsense the troothers have come up with.

 

[Edx]

What did they use? NWO VACuSeal??

NWO VACusEaL.

Seals in air and sound!

 

[Edx]

idiots
do you not see how far down the rabbit hole you have gone?

When confronted with the fact that no explosions consistent with cd
jones invents a thermite conspiracy hypothesis

when confronted with the fact that thermite cannot burn horizontally they come up with an obdcure patent of a fixture that would need to be the size of a living room sectional sofa surrounding each column

when shown how unfeasible this fixture is, they come up with a device the size of a 45 caliber glock that just manages to go "pfffft" and cut a number 3 rebar. Woop de ****in doo! Try that on a core column,

when shown that dogs can be trained to sniff out explosives they present the canard that the dogs were removed before 9/11

when it is shown that the only dogs removed were the extra dogs that were assigned because of an increased threat level they claim dogs cant detect thermite.

When shown that dogs can be trained to detect any contraband that gives off a scent they claim that the dogs cant detect thermite in a sealed container

when shown examples of dogs detecting contraband in sealed containers and even if the container was sealed to to be impermeable there still has to be a fuse

when shown examples that dogs indeed can they come up with ****in vacuum packing and radio fuses!

So the inside job conspirators would need to consider every single remote possibility of detection and design means to subvert detection.

But not just hijack planes and fly them into buildings.

I must say i really do enjoy every jackass from the truth movement coming here to post. Please keep up the excellent work twoofers. There is no need for debunkers. Just showing what colossal deluded idiots you are is enough to make even mention of a "truth movement" generate belly laughs from the public at large.

qft

 

[cmatrix]

Are you saying that buckled columns are supposed to be able to hold up a building without failing catastrpophicly? How far out of alignment must the entire weight of a column be before it breaks?

Show your work.



That free-fall occurred after the massive buckling began without a sound of explosives.

Apparently WTC steel had some magical properties. These two images show WTC columns twisted right over without breaking.

So does everyone admit the NIST WTC 7 theory is complete crackpot pseudo-science bunk? Mr. Thomas don't you worry that believing without question in an easily disproven crackpot pseudo-science theory will damage your reputation?

 

[twinstead]

Apparently WTC steel had some magical properties. These two images show WTC columns twisted right over without breaking.

[qimg]http://www.american-buddha.com/ae911truth.14c.jpg[/qimg]
[qimg]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ieVH8a7B1Ce18M:http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/911conspiracytv/horseshoe_steel.jpg&t=1[/qimg]

So does everyone admit the NIST WTC 7 theory is complete crackpot pseudo-science bunk? Mr. Thomas don't you worry that believing without question in an easily disproven crackpot pseudo-science theory will damage your reputation?

You appear to be in the minority on this issue, both on this obscure internet forum and in the real world in general. You also don't appear to be even qualified to make such a serious pronouncement.

Therefore for the time being, this layman totally rejects your conclusion pending confirmation from some real engineering and scientific communities. Case closed for now, sorry. Come back when you have some support.

 

[grandmastershek]

Apparently WTC steel had some magical properties. These two images show WTC columns twisted right over without breaking.

General science vocabulary- malleability.

Does thermite or explosives do that?

LOL @ "crackpot theory". As if explosives clandestinely placed and ignited by a super hi tech incendiary which had to be ignited by some unknown mechanism while none of which was detected during installation by the tenants or security, and likewise not detected on video of the collapses, seismograph or in the rubble by dogs or clean up

 

[twinstead]

In Trutherland, metal doesn't soften as it heats. It just breaks. Remind me to check the map, so I can go around Trutherland on my next vacation.

 

[excaza]

Apparently WTC steel had some magical properties. These two images show WTC columns twisted right over without breaking.

[qimg]http://www.american-buddha.com/ae911truth.14c.jpg[/qimg]
[qimg]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ieVH8a7B1Ce18M:http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/911conspiracytv/horseshoe_steel.jpg&t=1[/qimg]

Ok. Is there something unexpected in the photos? Can you explain why you believe this shouldn't have happened?

You do understand that materials become more ductile as temperature increases? How exactly do you think blacksmiths have done their jobs for the past few thousand years? Have you never seen carpenters heating up wooden crown molding so they can bend it to fit a curved room and not snap it? How exactly do you think copper pipe is bent without failure? It's certainly not done with the copper at room temperature.

How does this, in any way, shape, or form, support your idea that it was CD?

 

[Dog Town]

So does everyone admit themy... WTC 7 theory is complete crackpot pseudo-science bunk?

The one you keep proposing, with sooper dooper thermate, etc..? YES! Certifiably insane, in FACT!