Only a disinfo agent would say that no plane hit the Pentagon

[dafydd]

It's like debating a 9 year old.

I dunno, I've met some quite intelligent nine year olds.

 

[Clayton Moore]

It's like debating a 9 year old.

I don't remember any contributions to the "debate" from you.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I don't remember any contributions to the "debate" from you.

And I don't recall any significant ones from you.

Dave

 

[twinstead]

I don't remember any contributions to the "debate" from you.

Unlike you, I don't claim to have any. I only observe. And what I observe is that you constantly debate subjects about things you know nothing about. At least I'm smart enough to know when to stay out.

 

[frenat]

Because an inexperienced pilot would have over compensated and crashed.

Overcompensated for what? The ground effect that I already showed wouldn't be a factor?

 

[Dave Rogers]

And what I observe is that you constantly debate subjects about things you know nothing about. At least I'm smart enough to know when to stay out.

I just try to stay out of debates on subjects I know less about than Clayton does. It leaves me with a much wider range of opportunities.

Dave

 

[dafydd]

I don't remember any contributions to the "debate" from you.

Ditto. When are you going to take your mountain of damning evidence before the Grand Jury? When will you and your handful of truthers put the evil neocons in the dock?

 

[twinstead]

I just try to stay out of debates on subjects I know less about than Clayton does. It leaves me with a much wider range of opportunities.

Dave

Ah, good point. Words of wisdom

 

[dafydd]

Unlike you, I don't claim to have any. I only observe. And what I observe is that you constantly debate subjects about things you know nothing about. At least I'm smart enough to know when to stay out.

Me too. I leave that to the people who have actually flown a plane. This does not include Clayton. Why do truthers labour under the delusion that they know all about subjects that have never studied?

 

[NoahFence]

Clayton, wouldn't it be a good idea to actually learn something about this subject before you pontificate any further?

You would think so.

 

[Crazytimes]

Because an inexperienced pilot would have over compensated and crashed.

THAT is funny. What happened to the plane again ?

 

[dafydd]

THAT is funny. What happened to the plane again ?

Twoofers!!

 

[twinstead]

THAT is funny. What happened to the plane again ?

Yea, but it didn't crash in a manner that his expert analysis predicted

 

[dafydd]

Yea, but it didn't crash in a manner that his expert analysis predicted

The terrorists meant to crash the planes. The planes crashed. What's his beef?

 

[A W Smith]

Really?


http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/steves-analysis.htm

That's one hell of a banked turn.

Did you even watch the last moments of the video I posted? I put the link above the YouTube window so you wouldn't have to watch the entire hour and 17 minutes of it. Didn't you notice how much the yoke was rocked left and right and up and down trying to correct the planes attitude during the turn? That's anything but "pilot experience"

from your link

Of course, this is all speculation, not facts.

Are you trying to be wrong with every post to amuse us? Tying too hard will lose your audience.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

The terrorists meant to crash the planes. The planes crashed. What's his beef?

We should be thankful he's not banging on about missiles or fly-overs.




That's something, at least...

 

[Bell]

Because an inexperienced pilot would have over compensated and crashed.

Why "woulda coulda shoulda" Hani overcompensate? He was not trying to avoid hitting the ground, he was trying to hit the Pentagon and was aiming straight at it.

 

[jaydeehess]

http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/steves-analysis.htm

Using the map in the Analysis by
Steve Koeppel and the Arlington Arts Center as a basic landmark it would appear the novice pilot completed a perfect 500 mph, 270 degree bank in time hit the Pentagon at an angle from about less than three miles out as the crow flies.

speed incorrect, bank angle incorrect

 

[jaydeehess]

oops

"Perfect 500 mph, 270 degree bank", makes no sense. The plane did not go 500 mph for more than 20 to 30 seconds after the turn.

Flight 77 did not do 270 degree bank! You have no idea what you are talking about!

It looks to me that Claton is confusing a 270 degree turn, that is to say the plane turning through 270 degrees of heading, with a 270 degree bank. Its a good thing that heading change does not relate to bank angle that way otherwise it would be impossible for some planes to change heading from south to north.

One wonders if Clyaton understands that a 270 degree bank angle would put the plane almost upside down?

What angle? Flight 77 lined up 6.2 miles out, you missed that fact too. You get your data from people who believe 77 hit the Pentagon, and you can't get the data right.

I have to admit I don't know what the H Clayton is trying to speak to in that bit of nonsense.

 

[cjnewson88]

270 deg bank would put flight 77 3/4th the way through an aileron roll....