One of Trump's Biggest Supporters has an Epiphany

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1163435469318840320

Anthony Scaramucci, a former White House communications director who has recently withdrawn his support for President Trump, says he is putting together a coalition of former Trump Cabinet officials to denounce the President ahead of the 2020 election.

Article embedded in tweet.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1163435469318840320



Article embedded in tweet.

"Unprincipled political mercenaries upset they were discarded once no longer useful"

News footage at 11.

I'll be happy if this clown-show has success in highlighting the dysfunction that is the Trump administration and influences voters, but these shills deserve much worse than they got. It is my sincere hope that none of these people successfully peddle their "redemption" narrative.

 

[phiwum]

"Unprincipled political mercenaries upset they were discarded once no longer useful"

News footage at 11.

I'll be happy if this clown-show has success in highlighting the dysfunction that is the Trump administration and influences voters, but these shills deserve much worse than they got. It is my sincere hope that none of these people successfully peddle their "redemption" narrative.

I'd be impressed if John Kelly denounced Trump, but it seems unlikely he'd do so publicly. Which, I suppose, is why I'd be impressed if he did.

 

[dudalb]

It's a technicality: anti-Trumpers have been ostracized from the right and are now considered to be leftists.

The right in this country has become a personality cult.
That Trump has betrayed several core classic conservative beleifs is indisputable; but they have been so seduced by the love of political power that they have pretty much become corrupted.

 

[pgwenthold]

The right in this country has become a personality cult.
That Trump has betrayed several core classic conservative beleifs is indisputable; but they have been so seduced by the love of political power that they have pretty much become corrupted.

An alternative explanation is is that Trump has found the true core features of the Republican voter, the things they can all agree on: outlaw abortion andr people with brown skin are bad.

 

[Woolgatherer]

When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about a thirteen year-old girl named Epiphany, in the fallout of the Epstein case.

You must be thinking of Persephone, queen of the underworld?

 

[mgidm86]

The right in this country has become a personality cult.
That Trump has betrayed several core classic conservative beleifs is indisputable; but they have been so seduced by the love of political power that they have pretty much become corrupted.

Maybe some. Others, maybe most, are afraid of what liberals want to do, or what they think they want to do. I fall into that camp, though now I'm equally worried about both sides of the aisle. I have no party to side with.

I talk trash about Trump (believe it or not) to my parents and a few friends and that is what I get from them. They don't see or even know about many of the topics discussed here. I get blank stares and silence when they hear me criticize him.

I asked my parents what they thought about Trumps comments on the four female congresswomen - AOC etc - and they didn't know what I was talking about. I don't think my Mom watches or listens to Fox, I don't know where she gets her news.

Most people are way less informed than we realize I think. I don't know many people who have heard of Jussie Smollett. I thought that was weird and it is what started my interest in how much news gets to the average person.

Most people are headline readers. I don't think your average Republican voter is any more evil than your average Democrat. They just aren't that involved.

Most people don't debate on political forums. We are the exception when it comes to knowledge and deep interest in this stuff. Even your least-liked ISF poster is probably more knowledgeable than 98% of the public.

 

[Craig4]

Trump will die politically by the proverbial death of a thousand cuts. In that case, one must not look too critically at someone eagerly wielding a box cutter.

 

[theprestige]

Trump will die politically by the proverbial death of a thousand cuts. In that case, one must not look too critically at someone eagerly wielding a box cutter.

I think part of the reason Trump has lasted so long, in spite of all his baggage, is that he isn't a political creature. He can't really be killed politically. It's not like he's a career politician who's hoping to carve out a lasting position in the estblishment. It's not like he's trying to build political capital to push some signature agenda. Simply being President Trump is the agenda.

And on top of all that, a lot of the cuts you imagine he's receiving are already accounted for by the electorate.

 

[TragicMonkey]

You must be thinking of Persephone, queen of the underworld?

I think the abduction and rape myths are more suitable for the Epstein thread.

 

[acbytesla]

I think part of the reason Trump has lasted so long, in spite of all his baggage, is that he isn't a political creature. He can't really be killed politically. It's not like he's a career politician who's hoping to carve out a lasting position in the estblishment. It's not like he's trying to build political capital to push some signature agenda. Simply being President Trump is the agenda.

And on top of all that, a lot of the cuts you imagine he's receiving are already accounted for by the electorate.

We don't agree often but we do on this.

Trump understands mostly how to manipulate the press. He knows how to change the story better than any politician in history. Mark Cuban called Trump before he was elected a master of Headline Porn and he was right. The press and the public have been puppets on a string for Trump.


But that doesn't make him good at the job of being President.

The deficit is about to reach a trillion dollars. Trump has engineered a trade war that threatens the economic well being of the world. And he's divided the nation like no peacetime President in history. And at the same time he has put at peril the checks and balances that are the core principles of our democratic republic.

I can almost forgive his self centered narcissism, but I cannot stand for what he has been doing to those principles.

 

[Cabbage]

Maybe some. Others, maybe most, are afraid of what liberals want to do, or what they think they want to do. I fall into that camp, though now I'm equally worried about both sides of the aisle. I have no party to side with.

I talk trash about Trump (believe it or not) to my parents and a few friends and that is what I get from them. They don't see or even know about many of the topics discussed here. I get blank stares and silence when they hear me criticize him.

I asked my parents what they thought about Trumps comments on the four female congresswomen - AOC etc - and they didn't know what I was talking about. I don't think my Mom watches or listens to Fox, I don't know where she gets her news.

Most people are way less informed than we realize I think. I don't know many people who have heard of Jussie Smollett. I thought that was weird and it is what started my interest in how much news gets to the average person.

Most people are headline readers. I don't think your average Republican voter is any more evil than your average Democrat. They just aren't that involved.

Most people don't debate on political forums. We are the exception when it comes to knowledge and deep interest in this stuff. Even your least-liked ISF poster is probably more knowledgeable than 98% of the public.

That's your problem right there: Everything you think liberals want to do was indoctrinated into you by right wing media specifically designed to make you afraid of what you think liberals want to do. I knew this when I read your following post:

I'm picturing the youth of the day jumping up after watching Kennedy on TV and running to the nearest Peace Corp office. I doubt it was actually that wonderful. If it was then people were probably more naive then.

Back then people wanted America to be great and they were proud of their country - maybe naive but at least there was pride. World War II helped with that.

Now, liberals tell us we should be ashamed of our power and wealth, it isn't cool to love America or have a flag on your home. We are only happy because we oppress others. Wealth is bad. Achievement is frowned upon. Patriotism is evil.

According to liberals we should be ashamed. Why would anyone jump up and Make America Great if half the people are telling us that we aren't even good?

One thing that is different - Kennedy wanted our country to be strong, OUR country, but that isn't cool anymore. How can anyone compare Kennedy with today's "ashamed to be an American" Democrats?

Who is our Kennedy of today? I don't see one. Trump didn't do this, it has taken decades of government overreach to disenfranchise the people.

ETA:
Sorry I'm kinda all over the place today. I need food.

 

[Lurch]

I think part of the reason Trump has lasted so long, in spite of all his baggage, is that he isn't a political creature. He can't really be killed politically. It's not like he's a career politician who's hoping to carve out a lasting position in the estblishment. It's not like he's trying to build political capital to push some signature agenda. Simply being President Trump is the agenda.

And on top of all that, a lot of the cuts you imagine he's receiving are already accounted for by the electorate.

It's much more fundamental than not being a political creature. He is seemingly utterly without shame. A person who cannot be shamed is abnormal. Shame is our inner voice telling us when we're wrong. Or at least registering when others tell us we are. If Trump ever feels shame, he does a bloody good job in hiding it. Or ignoring it. Either way, he's a sociopath.

 

[Hungry81]

Even your least-liked ISF poster is probably more knowledgeable than 98% of the public.

Ha! My moment in the sun has come at last!!!!!1!@

 

[TofuFighter]

.. Even your least-liked ISF poster is probably more knowledgeable than 98% of the public.

Gah. Now look what you've done. ^^

 

[Craig4]

I think part of the reason Trump has lasted so long, in spite of all his baggage, is that he isn't a political creature. He can't really be killed politically. It's not like he's a career politician who's hoping to carve out a lasting position in the estblishment. It's not like he's trying to build political capital to push some signature agenda. Simply being President Trump is the agenda.

And on top of all that, a lot of the cuts you imagine he's receiving are already accounted for by the electorate.

88,000 votes in three states. Happily, most of them skewed older so some of them have died and even better, more will die before November 2020. How we out vote the survivors doesn't matter as long as we do. When I say we, I'm talking about real, loyal Americans of course.