On Consciousness

[quarky]

The wrath of Pixy may fall on me, but I believe that part of the message in Zeuzzz's dmt experiments, is that all perception is regulated by chemicals, and it is all somewhat hallucinogenic in nature.

Certainly, a housefly, living in the suburbs of N.J., has a radically different perception of reality than his housemates; Judy and Paul Walinsky, of 17 Maple Avenue.

 

[Zeuzzz]

So what you are saying is that you took hallucinogenic drugs and hallucinated?

No. I am saying that I raised the level of a natural neurochemical found in the blood of all mammalian life, thus boosting the perceptual effects it has on us every day by some 50x. Different chemicals can effect the way these neurotransmitters function.

I'm sorry, but that's precisely what it was. You described it quite vividly.

I'm going to show you an elf legion from hyperspace as proof.

 

[Zeuzzz]

What part of you perceptual reality do you put down to the endogenous DMT in your brain pixy?

 

[AlBell]

IT'S BLEEDIN' SUBJECTIVE!

Lower case stuffs.

Back to Reality is a shared hallucination.

 

[PixyMisa]

The wrath of Pixy may fall on me, but I believe that part of the message in Zeuzzz's dmt experiments, is that all perception is regulated by chemicals

By definition, yes.

and it is all somewhat hallucinogenic in nature.

By definition, no.

 

[PixyMisa]

No. I am saying that I raised the level of a natural neurochemical found in the blood of all mammalian life, thus boosting the perceptual effects it has on us every day by some 50x. Different chemicals can effect the way these neurotransmitters function.

So what you are saying is that you took hallucinogenic drugs and hallucinated?

 

[PixyMisa]

Back to Reality is a shared hallucination.

How about instead we go back to words having meaning?

 

[quarky]

By definition, yes.


By definition, no.

Your wrath hath mellowed.

You aren't on prozac, are you?

We need you, in top form.

 

[Zeuzzz]

So what you are saying is that you took hallucinogenic drugs and hallucinated?

If refer you back to my previous question that you ignored:

What part of you perceptual reality do you put down to the endogenous DMT in your brain pixy?

 

[dlorde]

If I master how to speak to them coherently in their complex language then I may be able to convince an elf to come back me with me next time. If so I'll set him up an account here to explain everything for you. Or video him as proof.

Good luck with that

 

[dlorde]

What part of you perceptual reality do you put down to the endogenous DMT in your brain pixy?

The brain is very sensitive to levels of neurotransmitters. If you mess with the normal levels, you will get abnormal functioning. It's not difficult to understand.

What you don't get is real elves from hyperspace, or whatever nonsense you hallucinated. They may seem real to you, but a trivial application of critical thinking and common-sense should disabuse you of that.

 

[aceboy71214]

For now, even if we discover what is physically necessary for consciousness, that would be amazing. Not "what is consciousness" but what is "physically necessary" to be conscious.

 

[AlBell]

How about instead we go back to words having meaning?

I'll bite.

If reality isn't a shared hallucination, what is reality?

ps. Those words do have meaning even if you can't find it.

 

[Perpetual Student]

The brain is very sensitive to levels of neurotransmitters. If you mess with the normal levels, you will get abnormal functioning. It's not difficult to understand.

What you don't get is real elves from hyperspace, or whatever nonsense you hallucinated. They may seem real to you, but a trivial application of critical thinking and common-sense should disabuse you of that.

Yes! All of Zzeuzzz's internal visions are stuff and nonsense to which only a fool would relate to reality -- which has no bearing on his dysfunctional cognition, drug induced or otherwise.

 

[Perpetual Student]

I'll bite.

If reality isn't a shared hallucination, what is reality?

ps. Those words do have meaning even if you can't find it.

Reality is reality. Shared hallucinations are shared hallucinations.
And radishes are not shared tomatoes.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Good luck with that

I was sort of joking with that sentiment

 

[Zeuzzz]

Yes! All of Zzeuzzz's internal visions are stuff and nonsense to which only a fool would relate to reality -- which has no bearing on his dysfunctional cognition, drug induced or otherwise.

I ask you again same question that I asked pixy. Please reply.

What part of you perceptual reality do you put down to the endogenous DMT in your brain

 

[Perpetual Student]

What part of you perceptual reality do you put down to the endogenous DMT in your brain pixy?

The question is meaningless. It's like asking, "what part of your e mail does one "put down" to germanium?"

 

[Kumar]

Definitions

"Karma" literally means "deed" or "act", and more broadly names the universal principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, which Hindus believe governs all consciousness.[9] Karma is not fate, for we act with what can be described as a conditioned free will creating our own destinies. According to the Vedas, if we sow goodness, we will reap goodness; if we sow evil, we will reap evil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Hinduism

Simply, acts done with conscious mind are Karma and attract cause and effect.

 

[Zeuzzz]

The question is meaningless. It's like asking, "what part of your e mail does one "put down" to germanium?"

Right

Asking what function a neurotransmitter plays in a science forum is totally meaningless!

Have a nice day.