Old man runs motorcyclist off road. Says "I don't care."

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What stunned me about the actions of the bikers is how they even after they learned the girl was hurt, they were so intent on getting that old man, that they did not immediatly confirm that 911 was called and that an ambulance was on the way.

Evidence?

 

[rwguinn]

Absolutely correct.

On the bike, I've had more than one instance where a driver going significantly slower than the posted speed limit in good weather on a well maintained road not only didn't pull to the right when the passing lane came up, actually swerved in whichever direction they though I was going to pass them, up to and including swerving to the left and crossing a double yellow line. Highways 92 and 9 in my area seem to have many drivers that have issues about being passed.

The majority of such drivers have been males, but the worst example I've personally encountered was a woman driving a Volvo station wagon that evidently was divinely anointed by the FSM to never suffer the indignity of being passed by a motorcyclist.

After myself and two other riders managed to pass her while she was swerving all over the road in the area of the passing lane on Highway 9, we continued on to our destination at the intersection of Hwy. 9 and 35, had gotten off our bikes, taken off our helmets and other gear, bought hot dogs and bottled water and stood around with other riders like you do up there when she finally made it to the intersection...she'd only taken about 15 minutes to get to that point, and she felt it necessary to pull into the vista point area, jump out of her Volvo and throw around language at everyone in earshot that was probably not much different from the language your dad used. As she had no idea who exactly to blame for the indignity of being passed, she just let fly at whoever was closest without regard to the other folks (families) who were also on site.

Please note: I and the other riders weren't tailgating, stunting or riding like fools before this driver decided to block us from passing. Going uphill from Santa Cruz towards Hwy. 35 there is a great wide section of road w/ a designated passing lane at Castle Rock park. This driver not only did not pull to the right to allow passing, the moment that we made the move to pass she pulled hard to the left (not much different from the vid linked in the op) and ended up crossing the center double yellow line...while she was busy getting outraged and all that jazz, myself and my buddies passed her on the right and also note that every other passenger vehicle driver had pulled to the right to allow passing...

Hwy 9:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_9

395 up the Owens Valley back in the 1970's, when the campers would be doing 10 MPH below the limit till they got to a passing lane, when they'd speed up to 15 over. And passing lanes were a long way apart...

 

[Dr. Keith]

Correction: some people don't like being passed at all.

Absolutely correct.

Which is so odd. If I'm on a rather open road and you pass me I think of you as running radar cover for me. So long as you are up ahead going faster I'm less likely to get nicked.

I do get peaved when sitting in traffic and some idiot comes running up the shoulder as if the rest of us just aren't trying hard enough to move ahead. But those idiots are always in cars.

When I see bikes splitting in my rearview I give them room. Even if they are stunting or being stupid. I don't want to clean up the mess.

 

[Dr. Keith]

395 up the Owens Valley back in the 1970's, when the campers would be doing 10 MPH below the limit till they got to a passing lane, when they'd speed up to 15 over. And passing lanes were a long way apart...

I do like that a lot of passing lanes where I travel are now in uphill sections so the large slow vehicles don't have much choice. I have driven large vehicles and I get wanting to make up time on the downhill.

 

[Travis]

I wonder when was the last time jealousy and envy have brought a solution to any such problems ...

Beats me. More often they would not improve things at all. Which is why civilized people don't act on such urges.

 

[C_Felix]

Regardless of whatever traffic violations the motorcyclist may have committed, it doesn't justify running him off the road. I hope the old geezer gets more than a slap on the wrist.

Steve S

Still not seeing who those people are.

xjx388 was quite rightly pointing out that the motorcyclist was also breaking the law by crossing the double yellow lines.

I'm reminded of this video.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/virals/11746217/Motorcyclist-fights-back-after-violent-road-rage-attack.html

At a light, a biker is assaulted by Gollum.
Gollum claims, "You broke the law!"

I want to know, who the hell made Gollum judge, jury, and executioner.

The same with the guy in this video. If he did swerve b/c the biker was crossing the double yellow, who made him judge, jury, and executioner?

 

[Flo]

When I see bikes splitting in my rearview I give them room. Even if they are stunting or being stupid. I don't want to clean up the mess take the risk of hurting someone.

FIFY

Beats me. More often they would not improve things at all. Which is why civilized people don't act on such urges.

I don't even have the urge. I don't see the point in such urges.

 

[The Don]

I'm reminded of this video.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/virals/11746217/Motorcyclist-fights-back-after-violent-road-rage-attack.html

At a light, a biker is assaulted by Gollum.
Gollum claims, "You broke the law!"

I want to know, who the hell made Gollum judge, jury, and executioner.

The same with the guy in this video. If he did swerve b/c the biker was crossing the double yellow, who made him judge, jury, and executioner?

Once again, I think the point is being missed. AFAIK no-one is justifying the actions of the driver.

Some people are pointing out that because the motorcyclist was breaking the law he should attract the appropriate legal penalty.

In your example Gollum should definitely be prosecuted but if the biker was indeed breaking the law he shouldn't get a free pass because some idiot assaulted him.

 

[rwguinn]

Once again, I think the point is being missed. AFAIK no-one is justifying the actions of the driver.

Some people are pointing out that because the motorcyclist was breaking the law he should attract the appropriate legal penalty.

In your example Gollum should definitely be prosecuted but if the biker was indeed breaking the law he shouldn't get a free pass because some idiot assaulted him.

And he did. He was ticketed for the illegal pass.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"There are over 3.8 million miles of paved roads in the US. You can have every damn foot of that, except for what's directly under my vehicle. Welcome to and now go away."

 

[quadraginta]

Meh, watch Russian dash cam videos on Youtube. People will door a biker simply because he's doing better in slow traffic than they are. Fender benders will make people pull out axes, guns, shovels, etc., to help them prove they are in the right.

And vodka. So much vodka.

Amateurs.

We have handguns.

And the occasional crossbow.

Also vodka ... or a reasonable substitute.

 

[Lerxst]

Try being a cyclist and commuting to work here in Texas. I've been run off the road by vehicles on a 4 lane road that had almost no traffic on it, other than me and the motorist who felt I should be on the sidewalk apparently. Eventually had to stop doing it after I thought about the risks I was taking, that and wanting to see my daughter grow up.

 

[Polaris]

Try being a cyclist and commuting to work here in Texas. I've been run off the road by vehicles on a 4 lane road that had almost no traffic on it, other than me and the motorist who felt I should be on the sidewalk apparently. Eventually had to stop doing it after I thought about the risks I was taking, that and wanting to see my daughter grow up.

You saw a sidewalk in Texas?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

You saw a sidewalk in Texas?

There's one in Garston, (we were the only ones walking on it)

 

[quadraginta]

You saw a sidewalk in Texas?

Don't know about Texas, but in a lot of places it's illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk.

A lot of drivers seem to be unaware of this. Or oblivious.

 

[Minoosh]

I remember as a kid reading a Reader's Digest item wherein a car driver apologized to a cop for making a right turn that cut the motorcycle cop off: "I'm sorry, I thought you were some kid on a Honda."

This is before Honda broke into the U.S. car market, so some time back.

There is a little bit of a parallel, car vs. MC and tractor-trailer vs. car. Even if the truck driver is being irresponsible, as the auto driver I will lose if we both try to occupy the same space. I understand the frustration of being stuck behind someone driving unreasonably slowly (as in, the speed limit). But, physics being what it is, tailgating is a dangerous and stupid strategy for pressuring the driver ahead. I'll admit to slowing down (to the speed limit) if I'm ticked off at someone riding my ass unnecessarily.

Apparently overtaking on the right is no longer a cardinal sin. I've asked several driving enthusiasts, and it seems the practice is pretty much accepted.

As far as the truck driver blinded by the sun - in the UK? Not what I would expect. In the U.S. Southwest I have been instantly and terrifyingly blinded and it can be a serious problem. I don't picture the UK as having such blazing-sun blindness, but I could be wrong.

 

[fagin]

We do have sun here, believe it or not. I even own sunglasses.

I am lead to believe it might even be the same sun you guys have in the US.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Don't know about Texas, but in a lot of places it's illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk.

It's illegal in Indiana, but legal in Missouri.

 

[steve s]

Someone else is claiming that Crum tried to run him off the road.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...crum-tried-rearending-him-last-week/74353792/

Last Friday, along a curvy stretch of Tin Top Highway near Granbury, a motorcyclist said a man in a white car pulled to the side of the road to let him pass.

"As I was going by, he turned back onto the highway and started to try to rear-end me," the man said.

Steve S

 

[Skeptical Greg]

A man in a white car?

That pretty much nails it...