Olbermann is going crazy

So I Googled Anna Marie Cox.

I think I do want cable TV again.

The Lower Right wing can have the Coulter critter.
 
Olowkow said:
Well he is obsessed with Glenn Beck, and has aired about 10 minutes of the Beck show on countdown two nights in a row. Beck is of course loony tunes, but now Olbermann is so enthralled that he can't let it go. First it was O'Reilley, then Limbaugh, etc. Enough already!!!
I don't plan to be watching Olbermann for a while, which is a shame, because he has been the only voice of the progressives. I am liking Cenk Uygur more an more, on Air America.
Why not air every rant of Charlie Manson every night on the news? All we see are loonies lately. I want to hear from smart people who know something. I don't care even if I disagree.

Am I overreacting to this?
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Yes. He's mocking an idiot. That is always a good thing to do. And it's funny!
 
K.O. worked at FOX News before he helped to bring MSNBC into the ratings basement. Before Maddow joined MSNBC, she put out feelers for a similar position at FOX News. Had Maddow gone to FOX, she wouldn't have to depend on her paltry Air America listeners to constitute her MSNBC audience.
 
Cicero said:
K.O. worked at FOX News before he helped to bring MSNBC into the ratings basement. Before Maddow joined MSNBC, she put out feelers for a similar position at FOX News. Had Maddow gone to FOX, she wouldn't have to depend on her paltry Air America listeners to constitute her MSNBC audience.
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Olberman worked for Fox Sports, not news, from 98-01, according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Olbermann
Any evidence for Maddow's having tried to get on at Fox News? Somehow that would surprise me, but I guess anything is possible.
Also, I know quite a few people who like Maddow and have never even heard of Air America, the network.
 
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Olowkow said:
Olberman worked for Fox Sports, not news, from 98-01, according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Olbermann
Any evidence for Maddow's having tried to get on at Fox News? Somehow that would surprise me, but I guess anything is possible.
Also, I know quite a few people who like Maddow and have never even heard of Air America, the network.
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What is the difference? FNC is part of Rupert Murdock's News Corp as is FOX News. Do you think K.O. has anything flattering to say about Murdock or any of his media?

Evidence:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/maddow_to_foxand_other_recent_storylines_92249.asp

I hope you can recover from the shock.

What is there to like about Maddow's show?
 
Retrograde said:
Rachel, for one: educated, witty, and easy on the eyes. Some posters mentioned Ana Marie Cox, but I prefer the other woman who occasionally subs for her and whose name I can't find.
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I guess one out of three will get you a show on MSNBC.
 
Olowkow said:
No Cenk fans here????
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I think he can be pretty good, yes. It's still partisan entertainment, but with 'truth' and 'progress', to the best of his ability, taking precedence over 'party'. And I think that's much more.. well, entertaining.
 
Olowkow said:
There are people who are just off the skids and to treat them as if they are just another side of the viewpoints of mainstream America, is just foolish.
What happens if we just ignore them? Will they eventually go away? I'm not sure, but to be fed this stuff every night as news on a progressive format, is just nuts. I'm frustrated. I really was fond of Olbermann until recently.

I must say though, that Anna Marie Cox, the redhead on Rachel's show is just very .... cute, no, she is very pretty.
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They won't go away. The Paranoid Style has been part of American Politics since the beginning. I'm old enough to remember the Birchers of the '60s. The Militia crazies of the '90s--leading to Timothy McVeigh--were tolerated by cable news. Now, we have the Birthers and the Deathers. The question is whether the crazies can make public debate impossible and prevent our government and institutions from functioning. Unfortunately, just one loud and obnoxious person can disrupt a public meeting.

I think ridicule and derision is a better weapon than outrage: Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart put this in perspective better than a hundred editorials. It's also important to keep Beck et al controversial. A perplexing aspect of the militia conspiracy movement of the '90s was how little heat politicians took for associating with it. That only changed after OK City. The push-back is stronger now, but obviously not sufficient.

Corporations hate controversy and will eventually pull advertising from shows they perceive to be offensive to a substantial part of the public.

It has become unacceptable to make racist statements in public. I'm old enough to remember when that was not the case. I'm also old enough to remember when saying blatantly false or stupid things would get you thrown off the air. I -hope- it's possible to get back to that place.
 
MervinFerd said:
They won't go away. The Paranoid Style has been part of American Politics since the beginning. I'm old enough to remember the Birchers of the '60s. The Militia crazies of the '90s--leading to Timothy McVeigh--were tolerated by cable news. Now, we have the Birthers and the Deathers. The question is whether the crazies can make public debate impossible and prevent our government and institutions from functioning. Unfortunately, just one loud and obnoxious person can disrupt a public meeting.
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Did the left wing "crazies" slip your mind? Or is it that when you are simpatico with the politics of Code Pink Greenpeace, PETA, Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, the SLA, and The Weathermen paranoia is a good thing?

I think ridicule and derision is a better weapon than outrage: Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart put this in perspective better than a hundred editorials. It's also important to keep Beck et al controversial. A perplexing aspect of the militia conspiracy movement of the '90s was how little heat politicians took for associating with it. That only changed after OK City. The push-back is stronger now, but obviously not sufficient.
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Not sufficient? What did you have in mind?

Corporations hate controversy and will eventually pull advertising from shows they perceive to be offensive to a substantial part of the public.
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You haven't looked at cable programming if you believe that.

It has become unacceptable to make racist statements in public. I'm old enough to remember when that was not the case. I'm also old enough to remember when saying blatantly false or stupid things would get you thrown off the air. I -hope- it's possible to get back to that place.
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I'm sure you couldn't wait for the PC world to arrive.

What is this mythical place you wish to get back to? When Cronkite concluded that the Tet Offensive, a disaster for the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong, was a sign that the "Vietnam War is to end in a stalemate," he was not thrown off the air.
 
Did the left wing "crazies" slip your mind? Or is it that when you are simpatico with the politics of Code Pink Greenpeace, PETA, Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, the SLA, and The Weathermen paranoia is a good thing?
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The SLA and the Weathermen [actually, the Weather Underground to use their later preferred name]?? Now there's a blast from the past!
 
It'd be nice if we could afford to let it go, OP, but what limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Beck do has real and dark consequences. Already a woman was caught armed planning a raid on what she thought was a FEMA camp. O'Reilly's been caught in sexual harassment and harasses people personally by proxy with his 'ambushes'. And they all spread racism -- I don't think I should have to explain to you why it's stupid to give up fighting racism.
 
GreNME said:
Not at all. Olberman is someone who always reaches for the low-hanging fruit. It's like the type of kid who picks a fight with the class weakling or mentally challenged kid, and then brags about it as if he's accomplished something significant.
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I didn't see the Olbermann episode in question, but generally Olbermann goes full force with what he is doing. I don't watch Olbermann on a regular basis, and his work is either hit or miss with no in-between. So I can see how he might overly attack Fox for Beck.

But that is more of a problem for Fox if they want Beck to be a face for their news channel. And more of an issue for Olbermann viewers if they want their news to be about news of a news channel.

In complete seriousness, from what I've seen, Beck is not a stable person. The way he flipped out on his radio show about health care or his FEMA conspiracies was unbelievable.
 
Cicero said:
K.O. worked at FOX News before he helped to bring MSNBC into the ratings basement. Before Maddow joined MSNBC, she put out feelers for a similar position at FOX News. Had Maddow gone to FOX, she wouldn't have to depend on her paltry Air America listeners to constitute her MSNBC audience.
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Source for any or all of the above.

TAM:)
 
Aerik said:
It'd be nice if we could afford to let it go, OP, but what limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Beck do has real and dark consequences. Already a woman was caught armed planning a raid on what she thought was a FEMA camp. O'Reilly's been caught in sexual harassment and harasses people personally by proxy with his 'ambushes'. And they all spread racism -- I don't think I should have to explain to you why it's stupid to give up fighting racism.
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Yeah, all the loonies are on the right. Everybody on the left is intelligent.
I am so sick and tired of the Goddamn double standard around here.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I think Beck is experimenting to see just how extreme he can get before Fox News fires him. Apparently, it's a very high level.
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All publicity is good publicity. Beck would have to say something really out-of-bounds (racial, sexual) to earn a rebuke and I think he's too smart for that. All these people are entertainers and have their schtick worked out beforehand.

Michael
 
Keith was wearing a Rachel Maddow "baseball team shirt" last night! He's not crazy after all.:rolleyes:

ETA, guess I better put a smilie there too.:)
 
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