OK Truthers, what is your smoking gun?

[Allen773]

i.e. what is the single piece of conclusive evidence that proves, beyond a reasonable doubt, that 9/11 was "LIHOP" or "MIHOP" or otherwise did not transpire as said by the "official narrative"?

There's got to be something us debunkers/skeptics are missing. So have at it!

 

[LSSBB]

It's the fact we still debate them. It means they must be on to something, for all this attention by shills.

 

[DGM]

It's the fact we still debate them. It means they must be on to something, for all this attention by shills.

Yes.........and this is why we need and independent investigation to find out why.

 

[ozeco41]

It's the fact we still debate them. It means they must be on to something, for all this attention by shills.

Yes.........and this is why we need and independent investigation to find out why.

surely the psychology driving the inability to resist troll feeding is not all that complicated?

What is astonishing is the number of people who persist in responding to trolling as if the person doing the trolling actually believes the nonsense he posts? Our late departed colleague MirageMemories is currently offering his wares on another forum which is more truther friendly than here - and getting a lot less attention that he invariably received here.

Clearly trolling succeeds in its goals - getting the MOST ego stroking responses for the LEAST expenditure of effort PLUS the added satisfaction of seeing people respond seriously - at the expenditure of some energy - when he spends little or no energy posting the nonsense.

In fact it is inversely correlated - the less effort the troll exerts - the sillier the post the MORE attention it attracts.

I'll have to dig up those threads from a couple of years back where I proposed and members were contributing to a study of "Trolling Efficiency"

IIRC we had the "Raw Trolling Index" - number of debunkers "biting" and responding to each trolling post. I recall a peak achievement - a short burst over 15 and one specific example of a trolling "raw score" of 27:1. 27 serious responses to one simple bit of trolling is admirably high efficiency IMO. (I could be wrong but I think that was ergo at his peak.)

And the last I remember of the threads we were tuning the factors for a weighted TPI (trolling performance index). A sort of "degree of less difficulty" score. Or "getting the mostest bang for the least bucks of trolling effort".

Our current most active contributor has it easy. He is copping all the attention because most of the long term stalwarts have chosen death by mod as the way out with .....


....err..


"Dignity".

(Saw Clayton Moore on Orphia's home forum yesterday. Same nonsense - different forum.)

 

[DGM]

What is astonishing is the number of people who persist in responding to trolling as if the person doing the trolling actually believes the nonsense he posts?

Beats the boring paperwork that piles on my desk everyday.........

Distraction from the everyday grind is what they are now.

 

[WilliamSeger]

"Conspiracy theories" where there's a smoking gun are known as "conspiracies."

 

[ozeco41]

"Conspiracy theories" where there's a smoking gun are known as "conspiracies."

Well said Sir!

 

[Mark F]

Its in those 28 redacted pages they won't release!

 

[spooky24]

Bull. Old line as all that stuff (28 redacted pages) was released into the archives years ago.

Having said that it's proper to point out that the National Archives in Washington D.C. is not a democracy-they let in who they want to let in.

Put that in your moonshine.

 

[JayUtah]

Correct, the national archives of the United States is not a lending library.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Beats the boring paperwork that piles on my desk everyday.........

Distraction from the everyday grind is what they are now.

You ever get bored with whack a truther, come on down and have some real fun,
Today I changed a flat.

 

[ozeco41]

The last one of those I drove was brand new and painted Military Green (AU). Which makes it 37 years back. (I got a shock when I worked out that number - doesn't time fly when you are having fun.) My kids were single digit ages then and I'm 4xgranddad now.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

The last one of those I drove was brand new and painted Military Green (AU). Which makes it 37 years back. (I got a shock when I worked out that number - doesn't time fly when you are having fun.) My kids were single digit ages then and I'm 4xgranddad now.

Yes I remember when changing the Chains on one was fun, now it seems I ache for days
From just lifting a few hundred pounds.
Time flys past us at the speed of light so no matter how hard we try to get caught up we are always behind.

 

[DGM]

You ever get bored with whack a truther, come on down and have some real fun,
Today I changed a flat.
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To tell you the truth, I'd likely enjoy it. For years I did all my own equipment work. Priorities changed that for me.

I do get to play with the big toys though.................

 

[Jango]

Well said Sir!

I read it as a false generalization.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I read it as a false generalization.

No, just a functional description.

 

[Jango]

No, just a functional description.

You're wrong. It was and remains a false generalization. Why? There is such a thing called an Open Secret. You also did not account for what constitutes a conspiracy theory being proven. Talked about by CNN or the government itself kind of proven? If that is the criteria, what about all of the things that happen that they do not talk about? Or do you believe that they talk about everything that happens everywhere all of the time?

I've just explained why it is a false generalization. Do you have the ability for a rebuttal outside of your one-liner gimmick SOP?

 

[WilliamSeger]

I've just explained why it is a false generalization. Do you have the ability for a rebuttal outside of your one-liner gimmick SOP?

Maybe the problem is your definition of "smoking gun."

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

And definition of "proven."

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Do you have the ability for a rebuttal outside of your one-liner gimmick SOP?

I used to write long posts with links and charts and images. Total waste of time. Now I answer in as few words required to communicate the basic thought. Sometimes it's one word. I regret nothing.