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Official James Comey testimony thread

Does this rise to the level of Obstruction of Justice?

I read that Trump must have shown some form of criminal intent. He had to know that what he was asking was possibly illegal and definitely inappropriate.

Did he know it was inappropriate? Surely.

Did he think it was illegal? He's such an arrogant ******* that he might have thought it was ok.

Though the fact that he asked Sessions to leave the room suggests he may have been aware his request could be possibly illegal.
 
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...-will-be-too-sick-to-work-on-thursday-morning
C.D.C.: MILLIONS OF AMERICANS IN AREAS COLORED BLUE WILL BE TOO SICK TO REPORT TO WORK THURSDAY MORNING

ATLANTA (The Borowitz Report)—In a mysterious epidemic that has spread rapidly in the past twenty-four hours, millions of Americans will be too sick to report to work on Thursday morning, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

Releasing a map of the United States on Wednesday, the C.D.C. indicated that the highest concentrations of people suffering from the baffling ailment occur in the areas colored blue.
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Hercules56 said:
Does this rise to the level of Obstruction of Justice?

I read that Trump must have shown some form of criminal intent. He had to know that what he was asking was possibly illegal and definitely inappropriate.

Did he know it was inappropriate? Surely.

Did he think it was illegal? He's such an arrogant ******* that he might have thought it was ok.

Though the fact that he asked Sessions to leave the room suggests he may have been aware his request could be possibly illegal.
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse - last I heard!!! And Trumpf is certainly ignorant!!!
 
Hercules56 said:
Does this rise to the level of Obstruction of Justice?

I read that Trump must have shown some form of criminal intent. He had to know that what he was asking was possibly illegal and definitely inappropriate.

Did he know it was inappropriate? Surely.

Did he think it was illegal? He's such an arrogant ******* that he might have thought it was ok.

Though the fact that he asked Sessions to leave the room suggests he may have been aware his request could be possibly illegal.
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Whether the president can commit obstruction is a political question.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Whether the president can commit obstruction is a political question.
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It is a political question whether he will be impeached over it. Because Republican scum care more about their party than they do the country, probably not.
 
Tony Stark said:
It is a political question whether he will be impeached over it. Because Republican scum care more about their party than they do the country, probably not.
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It is political as I argue the president cannot obstruct justice. He has ultimate authority to determine what cases warrant examination....even about him. There is no independent executive investigative body.
 
BobTheCoward said:
It is political as I argue the president cannot obstruct justice. He has ultimate authority to determine what cases warrant examination....even about him. There is no independent executive investigative body.
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Your argument is ridiculous.
 
If the president can just obstruct justice with impunity why did Nixon attempt to do it through the CIA rather than ordering the FBI to do it directly? Why was he about to be removed from office for doing that? Why did Ford even bother pardoning him?
 
Tony Stark said:
If the president can just obstruct justice with impunity why did Nixon attempt to do it through the CIA rather than ordering the FBI to do it directly? Why was he about to be removed from office for doing that? Why did Ford even bother pardoning him?
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Why does Trump complain about his DoJ not defending his travel ban when it is undisputed he has the power to order them to defend it as he wishes?

To answer your questions in order he wanted to do it secretly, he wasn't about to be removed under executive power so it doesn't actually say anything about executive power which is why I called it a political question, and after removal from office an ex president no longer has the power to determine investigation priorities.
 
Tony Stark said:
Nixon believed he was above the law. Turned out he was wrong.
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There was a complete lack of criminal charges filed against Nixon while he was in office and he resigned to avoid a political impeachment.

Nixon is a supremely dumb example for saying a president is not above the law. He suffered no executive legal reprecussions for his actions.
 
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Regnad Kcin said:
I've had a sense for days that Comey's testimony will prove anticlimactic. Time will tell.
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Yeah, I am getting the feeling that these televised hearings are all a
dog and pony show.

There was a whole lot of talk about what they wouldn't or couldn't say.

Still, the chaos is obvious, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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